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  • He may start now that OBJ and Chubb will start for the All-IR team the next few weeks

  • He may start now that OBJ and Chubb will start for the All-IR team the next few weeks

    @unsympathetic said:

    He may start now that OBJ and Chubb will start for the All-IR team the next few weeks

    Since it didn't look like OBJ really should have been that hurt on that play, he'll probably be out for the rest of the season.

    Who was the high-priced CB the Browns had 15 or 20 years ago that blew out BOTH his knees on the same play? Gary Baxter?  

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  • And this dude was in the doghouse????

  • We could use some of the chemistry that he OBVIOUSLY has with Baker.

    Landry and OBJ have made big plays, but I don't know why I feel like he's the one he's the most comfortable with.

  • Higgins helped us in a big way yesterday.

  • We could use some of the chemistry that he OBVIOUSLY has with Baker.

    Landry and OBJ have made big plays, but I don't know why I feel like he's the one he's the most comfortable with.

    @nero said:

    We could use some of the chemistry that he OBVIOUSLY has with Baker.

    Landry and OBJ have made big plays, but I don't know why I feel like he's the one he's the most comfortable with.

    Baker is comfortable with landry. He's comfortable with higgins. There's obviously something with obj that's uncomfortable. I dont know what and there's no point in me speculating, but it's there. In my mind it's clear the Cleveland Browns offense is more dangerous with odell beckham off the field, and higgins on it. 

  • Obj out is a blessing...Baker was so much better with Higgins and Laundry back in the day. Obj is AB clone...probably chirpin in the huddle  Adios amigo.

  • Obj out is a blessing...Baker was so much better with Higgins and Laundry back in the day. Obj is AB clone...probably chirpin in the huddle  Adios amigo.

    @kvoethe said:

    Obj out is a blessing

    100% false.

    @kvoethe said:

    probably chirpin in the huddle

    Show your proof or it didn't exist.  Hint: Lies from AM talk radio aren't proof.

    For the 4216th time, OBJ is a model teammate.  "Those are the guys you want on your team."

  • Looks like OBJ is done for the year...  man could this team catch a break with all these injuries...

  • @kvoethe said:

    Obj out is a blessing

    100% false.

    @kvoethe said:

    probably chirpin in the huddle

    Show your proof or it didn't exist.  Hint: Lies from AM talk radio aren't proof.

    For the 4216th time, OBJ is a model teammate.  "Those are the guys you want on your team."

    @unsympathetic said:

    100% false.

    Show your proof or it didn't exist.  Hint: Lies from AM talk radio aren't proof.

    For the 4216th time, OBJ is a model teammate.  "Those are the guys you want on your team."

    lol What else do you expect his coach to say to the media? "He's a real dick and I for one wish he wasn't here"?? How many times have we seen and heard a public stamp of approval by an owner over his coach and/or GM.... only to see them fired days later?

    There is not a doubt in my mind that OBJ is a high maintenance dude and everyone around him has to walk on eggshells. (and I don't listen to any news - ever. It's just my opinion of the man, based on my experience walking around the planet for 52yrs) 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    100% false.

    Show your proof or it didn't exist.  Hint: Lies from AM talk radio aren't proof.

    For the 4216th time, OBJ is a model teammate.  "Those are the guys you want on your team."

    lol What else do you expect his coach to say to the media? "He's a real dick and I for one wish he wasn't here"?? How many times have we seen and heard a public stamp of approval by an owner over his coach and/or GM.... only to see them fired days later?

    There is not a doubt in my mind that OBJ is a high maintenance dude and everyone around him has to walk on eggshells. (and I don't listen to any news - ever. It's just my opinion of the man, based on my experience walking around the planet for 52yrs) 

    @d-bone said:

    There is not a doubt in my mind that OBJ is a

    There's not a doubt in my mind that your post is pure gossip.  OBJ is probably a nice guy who's actually easy to get to know.. if your purpose is something other than publically smearing him.  Colin Cowturd will never see that side of him... because Colin's entire objective is to insult everyone on the Browns.

    But hey, if disconnecting from reality is your goal, enjoy your psychotic break!

  • @d-bone said:

    There is not a doubt in my mind that OBJ is a

    There's not a doubt in my mind that your post is pure gossip.  OBJ is probably a nice guy who's actually easy to get to know.. if your purpose is something other than publically smearing him.  Colin Cowturd will never see that side of him... because Colin's entire objective is to insult everyone on the Browns.

    But hey, if disconnecting from reality is your goal, enjoy your psychotic break!

    @unsympathetic said:

    There's not a doubt in my mind that everything which follows is gossip.

    But hey, if disconnecting from reality is the best you can do, enjoy your psychotic break!

    lol "reality" Yep, I'll keep disconnecting from someone with an agenda telling me what to believe, and of course, what to fear. 

    A model citizen.... 

    https://sny.tv/articles/how-odell-beckham-jrs-latest-giants-rant-proves-dave-gettleman-was-right-to-trade-him

    https://sny.tv/articles/odell-beckham-jr-trade-why-giants-decided-to-deal-pain-in-the-ass-receiver

  • @unsympathetic said:

    There's not a doubt in my mind that everything which follows is gossip.

    But hey, if disconnecting from reality is the best you can do, enjoy your psychotic break!

    lol "reality" Yep, I'll keep disconnecting from someone with an agenda telling me what to believe, and of course, what to fear. 

    A model citizen.... 

    https://sny.tv/articles/how-odell-beckham-jrs-latest-giants-rant-proves-dave-gettleman-was-right-to-trade-him

    https://sny.tv/articles/odell-beckham-jr-trade-why-giants-decided-to-deal-pain-in-the-ass-receiver

    @d-bone said:

     I'll keep disconnecting from someone with an agenda telling me what to believe, and of course, what to fear

    Your agenda is asserting your moral superiority - with the side bonus of getting people to fear OBJ.  Outcomes are immaterial - you just want to show everyone how good you are through random insults directed at some athlete you'll never meet.

    In both the articles you posted  - "Beckham was loved by most of his teammates. He was known to be an incredibly hard worker."  That is.. the entire point.  

    Looks like the Giants ran their WR room without establishing consensus, which is always going to lead to unnamed assertions and "leaks" when anyone thinks things could be done differently.  As to the rest.. that's called life, and nothing you shouldn't expect with an athlete.  Giants are reacting to Insta/FB posts in the same way they'd react to paparazzi photos from decades ago, which is.. wildly incorrect.

    And.. Even if everything in those links was 100% true [which it's not].. that has ZERO connection to the assertion you made and I responded to. 

    Those links do not mention let alone describe OBJ's personality.  Your post is pure gossip.

  • All I know is baker was better without OBJ in the game.

  • Obj out is a blessing...Baker was so much better with Higgins and Laundry back in the day. Obj is AB clone...probably chirpin in the huddle  Adios amigo.

    @kvoethe said:

    Obj out is a blessing...

    No. 

    ODB was increasingly a scapegoat for frustrated, casual football I.Q. fans.   Now that Baker has had a decent game without him, they stand ready to sacrifice said scapegoat.

    We won without Wyatt Teller, are you trying to tell me we're better off without a premier interior lineman?   No, you wouldn't.  

    Fact is, Cincy doesn't have the personnel, coaching and time necessary on the field to pull off a lot of the defensive looks the Ravens and Steelers gave Baker.     Beckham being gone is NOT a net positive for this team by any stretch.   Your primary outside vertical threat is now lost for the season.  And at some point you will see defensive coaches make us pay for that.

  • @kvoethe said:

    Obj out is a blessing...

    No. 

    ODB was increasingly a scapegoat for frustrated, casual football I.Q. fans.   Now that Baker has had a decent game without him, they stand ready to sacrifice said scapegoat.

    We won without Wyatt Teller, are you trying to tell me we're better off without a premier interior lineman?   No, you wouldn't.  

    Fact is, Cincy doesn't have the personnel, coaching and time necessary on the field to pull off a lot of the defensive looks the Ravens and Steelers gave Baker.     Beckham being gone is NOT a net positive for this team by any stretch.   Your primary outside vertical threat is now lost for the season.  And at some point you will see defensive coaches make us pay for that.

    @tiamat63 said:

    No. 

    ODB was increasingly a scapegoat for frustrated, casual football I.Q. fans.   Now that Baker has had a decent game without him, they stand ready to sacrifice said scapegoat.

    We won without Wyatt Teller, are you trying to tell me we're better off without a premier interior lineman?   No, you wouldn't.  

    Fact is, Cincy doesn't have the personnel, coaching and time necessary on the field to pull off a lot of the defensive looks the Ravens and Steelers gave Baker.     Beckham being gone is NOT a net positive for this team by any stretch.   Your primary outside vertical threat is now lost for the season.  And at some point you will see defensive coaches make us pay for that.

    So for us casual football I.Q fans, we can now surmise that the next time we play either Pittsburgh or Baltimore without OBJ, then we can expect to be held to say 4 points instead of the 6.5 with OBJ...  

  • I haven't seen anyone assert beckham isn't a great player. It's just that it seems pretty clear that he and mayfield don't have the chemistry, understanding and camraderie that mayfield enjoys with his other receivers. For whatever reason. 

  • Higgins helped us in a big way yesterday.

    @orion said:

    Higgins helped us in a big way yesterday.

    He not only helped us big, he proved that he is a PLAYMAKER making tough catches all over the field. The one that really stood out is when he had the awareness to know he wasn't touched and rolled out of bounds to stop the clock.