Week 10: Texans @ Browns... Bye-Bye, Bye / Hello, Houston
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Oh, Greedy is "working hard....." Thank God for that. What is the longest stretch that he has been healthy the last 2 seasons? A week? Looking like a failed high draft pick.
Browns should win this game with ease. 31-17.
Greedy is making the decision to resign Mitchell this offseason a must.
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We’ve said the same things since week 1.
We need to control the clock; run the ball and play keep away because the defense isn’t good. That approach will not change with any opponent. The state of affairs is so bad defensively that If we don’t execute well offensively we can lose to the Jets.
We are going to have trouble with ANY offense (Jets included) that executes well makes throws and catches the ball. Aside from Myles, there is NO playmaking happening on our defense. We have guys missing tackles, dropping picks, showing up late in coverage. Last week the big uglies got pushed around.
Right now it’s let’s hope Myles creates a turnover or they miss a throw or drop a pass.
We’ve said the same things since week 1.
We need to control the clock; run the ball and play keep away because the defense isn’t good. That approach will not change with any opponent. The state of affairs is so bad defensively that If we don’t execute well offensively we can lose to the Jets.
We are going to have trouble with ANY offense (Jets included) that executes well makes throws and catches the ball. Aside from Myles, there is NO playmaking happening on our defense. We have guys missing tackles, dropping picks, showing up late in coverage. Last week the big uglies got pushed around.
Right now it’s let’s hope Myles creates a turnover or they miss a throw or drop a pass.
Kinda agree... which ain't bad for us....
Ball control is a plus, but we have to put up points... a bunch of points. Just so happens that the two go hand in hand for us due to our run dependence to set up our passing game.
In turn our points create the pressure on our opponents to score, which shelves their run game driving them into the arms of our D's true strength... rushing the passer. Then with our DBs sitting back in a zone they can make plays on any errant balls the pressure creates.
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Oh, Greedy is "working hard....." Thank God for that. What is the longest stretch that he has been healthy the last 2 seasons? A week? Looking like a failed high draft pick.
Browns should win this game with ease. 31-17.
Greedy is making the decision to resign Mitchell this offseason a must.
IMO Mitchell is becoming the most essential guy we need to resign.Greedy is making the decision to resign Mitchell this offseason a must.
IMO Mitchell is becoming the most essential guy we need to resign.Even if they do, got to draft a CB high in the draft too. And obviously a few LBs.
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From another hidden gem website... The run game for the Cleveland Browns is their biggest offensive strength this season. They are top ten in the NFL in rushing attempts and yards led by Kareem Hunt’s 529 yards, which is 10th in the NFL. Their offensive line has been terrific in the run game with 4.87 adjusted line yards, which is third in the NFL, and their 1.59 average 2nd level yards value, which leads the league. With the return of Nick Chubb this week, their run game will improve dramatically with two healthy elite running backs. The Texans are the second most rushed against team, giving up 5.1 yards per carry to opponents and nearly 160 rushing yards per game, the worst in the NFL.
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Greedy is making the decision to resign Mitchell this offseason a must.
IMO Mitchell is becoming the most essential guy we need to resign.Even if they do, got to draft a CB high in the draft too. And obviously a few LBs.
Even if they do, got to draft a CB high in the draft too. And obviously a few LBs.
Absolutely. I don’t even care if we keep Ward honestly. In that case you need 1A and 1b at that position.
Ward had made a few plays this year but when time comes are we going to pay him Top 5 corner money?
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We’ve said the same things since week 1.
We need to control the clock; run the ball and play keep away because the defense isn’t good. That approach will not change with any opponent. The state of affairs is so bad defensively that If we don’t execute well offensively we can lose to the Jets.
We are going to have trouble with ANY offense (Jets included) that executes well makes throws and catches the ball. Aside from Myles, there is NO playmaking happening on our defense. We have guys missing tackles, dropping picks, showing up late in coverage. Last week the big uglies got pushed around.
Right now it’s let’s hope Myles creates a turnover or they miss a throw or drop a pass.
Kinda agree... which ain't bad for us....
Ball control is a plus, but we have to put up points... a bunch of points. Just so happens that the two go hand in hand for us due to our run dependence to set up our passing game.
In turn our points create the pressure on our opponents to score, which shelves their run game driving them into the arms of our D's true strength... rushing the passer. Then with our DBs sitting back in a zone they can make plays on any errant balls the pressure creates.
Kinda agree... which ain't bad for us....
Ball control is a plus, but we have to put up points... a bunch of points. Just so happens that the two go hand in hand for us due to our run dependence to set up our passing game.
In turn our points create the pressure on our opponents to score, which shelves their run game driving them into the arms of our D's true strength... rushing the passer. Then with our DBs sitting back in a zone they can make plays on any errant balls the pressure creates.
But even our strength is negated by leaving the middle of the field open and Playing off coverage on the outside.
QBs do three step drops and hit wide open WRs and we let WRs run free with yards after catch.
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I did not have this as a Must Win game...but I DID have the Raiders game as a Must Win...and we lost. So now, this is a Must Win game . (IMO)
The season-long stats show us as a very strong running team. What those stats don't show is that we haven't been a real strong running team since we lost Chubb, Teller & OBJ. Teller may be more valuable than we thought.
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Greedy is making the decision to resign Mitchell this offseason a must.
IMO Mitchell is becoming the most essential guy we need to resign.Even if they do, got to draft a CB high in the draft too. And obviously a few LBs.
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Personally...I'm one of the biggest Clemson fans living in NC 🥷(2nd place homers, to my hometown tBuckeyes)... My 2nd daughter graduated a Tiger a year after Deshaun Watson got drafted.. Need-less to say "both, Watson & D.Hopkins" became easy 'good guys' to root for, thru her college days... saw some practices & games, thru good solid friendships, that will call during & after this game(book'd it)... I've heard about enough from these such friends
since Ryan Mallet hit a 2 yard pass to JJ Watt in 2014... to Watson & Hopkins rag rolling us twice in 2017 & 18 down in Houston... I will not... have or see any kind of wild gameday predictions on this game...
Even though, with the loss of DeAndre Hopkins(stupid'est trade O'Brain ever made)...Houdini Watson still carries the 8th highest completion percentage at 68.3% this season..Throwing to a corp of Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks, Kenny Stills & ageless Randall Cobb... Brees leads again at over 70%...Baker is ranked 29th at 61.4%... What did the pro scouts miss in DeShaun Watson? Certainly was not his tude, he's one of the most level headed professional person's you'd ever meet.. He's calm, cool & Accurate!! Career rating of 67.1.... Go Browns!! Run Chubby Run !!..And I'll be pulling up a chair, with all 3 daughters & some Clemson fans to HOPEFULLY* enjoy a Brown?WIN!! (the gambling wagers are still coming in)
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THE STARTING LINE... They Sound too-too Gay ?
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That's Better !! Exactly what you want to hear lost in the woods with stray women ?
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Personally...I'm one of the biggest Clemson fans living in NC 🥷(2nd place homers, to my hometown tBuckeyes)... My 2nd daughter graduated a Tiger a year after Deshaun Watson got drafted.. Need-less to say "both, Watson & D.Hopkins" became easy 'good guys' to root for, thru her college days... saw some practices & games, thru good solid friendships, that will call during & after this game(book'd it)... I've heard about enough from these such friends
since Ryan Mallet hit a 2 yard pass to JJ Watt in 2014... to Watson & Hopkins rag rolling us twice in 2017 & 18 down in Houston... I will not... have or see any kind of wild gameday predictions on this game...
Even though, with the loss of DeAndre Hopkins(stupid'est trade O'Brain ever made)...Houdini Watson still carries the 8th highest completion percentage at 68.3% this season..Throwing to a corp of Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks, Kenny Stills & ageless Randall Cobb... Brees leads again at over 70%...Baker is ranked 29th at 61.4%... What did the pro scouts miss in DeShaun Watson? Certainly was not his tude, he's one of the most level headed professional person's you'd ever meet.. He's calm, cool & Accurate!! Career rating of 67.1.... Go Browns!! Run Chubby Run !!..And I'll be pulling up a chair, with all 3 daughters & some Clemson fans to HOPEFULLY* enjoy a Brown?WIN!! (the gambling wagers are still coming in)
Houdini Watson still carries the 8th highest completion percentage at 68.3% this season..Throwing to a corp of Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks, Kenny Stills & ageless Randall Cobb
Scary, considering our pass defense. And, of course, there's our RUN defense....
We're going to have to score points.
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Btw, I think the weather is going to be super shitty again. God forbid we have a game last week when it was perfect outside. I absolutely hate watching rainy, windy football. Especially because it favors the defense, and we don't have one.
I'm definitely praying to the weather gods.
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Btw, I think the weather is going to be super shitty again. God forbid we have a game last week when it was perfect outside. I absolutely hate watching rainy, windy football. Especially because it favors the defense, and we don't have one.
I'm definitely praying to the weather gods.
Btw, I think the weather is going to be super shitty again. God forbid we have a game last week when it was perfect outside. I absolutely hate watching rainy, windy football. Especially because it favors the defense, and we don't have one.
I'm definitely praying to the weather gods.
I don’t know. If we get Teller and Chubb back. I’ll take the weather.
Texans could have David Johnson out and they will count on Duke Johnson. As long as we realize the threat that will now pose - the short pass game with Watson running.
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I did not have this as a Must Win game...but I DID have the Raiders game as a Must Win...and we lost. So now, this is a Must Win game . (IMO)
The season-long stats show us as a very strong running team. What those stats don't show is that we haven't been a real strong running team since we lost Chubb, Teller & OBJ. Teller may be more valuable than we thought.
I did not have this as a Must Win game...but I DID have the Raiders game as a Must Win...and we lost. So now, this is a Must Win game . (IMO)
The season-long stats show us as a very strong running team. What those stats don't show is that we haven't been a real strong running team since we lost Chubb, Teller & OBJ. Teller may be more valuable than we thought.
The offense is just different with Chubb and Teller out there. Teams can’t bring #24 down easily and it opens up the PA.
Hooper is a good blocker who hasn’t broke out as a receiver yet.The worse the weather gets, the better for Chubb and the run game.
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I did not have this as a Must Win game...but I DID have the Raiders game as a Must Win...and we lost. So now, this is a Must Win game . (IMO)
The season-long stats show us as a very strong running team. What those stats don't show is that we haven't been a real strong running team since we lost Chubb, Teller & OBJ. Teller may be more valuable than we thought.
The offense is just different with Chubb and Teller out there. Teams can’t bring #24 down easily and it opens up the PA.
Hooper is a good blocker who hasn’t broke out as a receiver yet.The worse the weather gets, the better for Chubb and the run game.
The worse the weather gets, the better for Chubb and the run game.
I would have agreed with you, but we couldn't get it done against the Raiders, and the weather was abysmal. Now, we didn't have Chubb or Teller, but still...it was our kind of game and we couldn't get it done, largely because we have the worst defense I've seen since 99 or 2000. It's that bad.
You want some good news? Pete Smith of Sports Illustrated predicts us to win and doesn't think we'll have a problem with the Texans. I think it'll be a huge problem, but then again, he knows a shit load more about football than I do, so maybe that will help everyone sleep!
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The worse the weather gets, the better for Chubb and the run game.
I would have agreed with you, but we couldn't get it done against the Raiders, and the weather was abysmal. Now, we didn't have Chubb or Teller, but still...it was our kind of game and we couldn't get it done, largely because we have the worst defense I've seen since 99 or 2000. It's that bad.
You want some good news? Pete Smith of Sports Illustrated predicts us to win and doesn't think we'll have a problem with the Texans. I think it'll be a huge problem, but then again, he knows a shit load more about football than I do, so maybe that will help everyone sleep!
I would have agreed with you, but we couldn't get it done against the Raiders, and the weather was abysmal. Now, we didn't have Chubb or Teller, but still...it was our kind of game and we couldn't get it done, largely because we have the worst defense I've seen since 99 or 2000. It's that bad.
You want some good news? Pete Smith of Sports Illustrated predicts us to win and doesn't think we'll have a problem with the Texans. I think it'll be a huge problem, but then again, he knows a shit load more about football than I do, so maybe that will help everyone sleep!
I know Pete Smith personally.
Don't sell yourself short on your football knowledge in comparison.
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Browns should win this game with ease. 31-17.
No deep threats will create loaded boxes against the run..How many weeks shall we wait on your claim of " No OBJ makes this team better"? Have ya seen our defense? Teams are what their record says they are? In your best bogus Browns fan opinion...Whom on Houston's schedule are the Browns beating?
Regular Season
WK DATE OPPONENT RESULT W-L HI PASS HI RUSH HI REC 1 Thu, Sep 10 L34-20 0-1 Watson 253 Johnson 77 Fuller V 112 2 Sun, Sep 20 L33-16 0-2 Watson 275 Johnson 34 Cooks 95 3 Sun, Sep 27 L28-21 0-3 Watson 264 Johnson 23 Cobb 95 4 Sun, Oct 4 L31-23 0-4 Watson 300 Johnson 63 Fuller V 108 5 Sun, Oct 11 W30-14 1-4 Watson 359 Johnson 96 Cooks 161 6 Sun, Oct 18 L42-36 OT 1-5 Watson 335 Johnson 57 Fuller V 123 7 Sun, Oct 25 L35-20 1-6 Watson 309 Johnson 42 Cobb 95 8 BYE WEEK 9 Sun, Nov 8 W27-25 Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
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