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Week 11: Philly @ CLE... Here come the Iggles...

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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Here's who the Iggles are missing...

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      Shawn Bradley still plays in Philly?

      Peters, Kelce, and Johnson are still there but are shells of their all-pro days.. Their swing tackle, Mailata, is 6'8 350# who used to play rugby.

      The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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        @marvin-the-martian said:

        When Sendejo covers any body, a 6 is likely

        Maybe we need to also ask...Are we asking Sendejo to do too much??? This is where Coach Woods may need to take some blame.

        For instance, Brandin Cooks is a tough matchup for a safety.

        I know we send him on blitzes that have in my estimation lead to 0 sacks from him and contributed to 0 sacks and hurries elsewhere. 

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        @sdbacker80 said:

        Maybe we need to also ask...Are we asking Sendejo to do too much??? This is where Coach Woods may need to take some blame.

        For instance, Brandin Cooks is a tough matchup for a safety.

        I know we send him on blitzes that have in my estimation lead to 0 sacks from him and contributed to 0 sacks and hurries elsewhere. 

        Once again, Sendejo is playing way more than was expected of him, due to injuries. He and Karl Joseph were going to mentor/spell Delpit. 

        The Browns brought in Ronnie Harrison, who has been pretty good. 

        Yes, clearly he is having problems. The coaches obviously trust Sendejo more than Redwine. Not much the Browns can do about the safety position until the off-season.

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          This is a must win, we have to win games against all these lesser teams. So more running the ball and controlling the clock. Also Wentz has been getting a beat down this year, we need to keep that up this week.

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            https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30329382/report-lsu-ignored-sexual-assault-complaints-football-players

            This could end up being a topic of discussion for the Browns front office this week along with the upcoming Eagles game.

            Both Browns rookies from LSU (Delpit/Phillips) are on the short-list of players accused of sexual misdeeds.  

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              @sdbacker80 said:

              Maybe we need to also ask...Are we asking Sendejo to do too much??? This is where Coach Woods may need to take some blame.

              For instance, Brandin Cooks is a tough matchup for a safety.

              I know we send him on blitzes that have in my estimation lead to 0 sacks from him and contributed to 0 sacks and hurries elsewhere. 

              Once again, Sendejo is playing way more than was expected of him, due to injuries. He and Karl Joseph were going to mentor/spell Delpit. 

              The Browns brought in Ronnie Harrison, who has been pretty good. 

              Yes, clearly he is having problems. The coaches obviously trust Sendejo more than Redwine. Not much the Browns can do about the safety position until the off-season.

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              @bob806 said:

              Once again, Sendejo is playing way more than was expected of him, due to injuries. He and Karl Joseph were going to mentor/spell Delpit. 

              The Browns brought in Ronnie Harrison, who has been pretty good. 

              Yes, clearly he is having problems. The coaches obviously trust Sendejo more than Redwine. Not much the Browns can do about the safety position until the off-season.

              Once again it is Unacceptable. And Delpit was injured in August.  
               

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                Browns - 3.5 is the line. Browns got to win this one. Philly is not very good. 17-13. 

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                  Some stats to kick off the week...

                  Eagles Offense is:

                  • #26 in passing yards with 2118.
                  • T-30th in YPA with 6.2.
                  • T-11th in rush yards with 1105.
                  • T-3rd (with us) in YPC averaging 5.1.
                  • #24 in scoring averaging 22.6 PPG.
                  • #30 in turnovers averaging 1.9 per game.

                  Eagles Defense is:

                  • #5 in passing yards allowed with 1906.
                  • T-9th in YPA allowed with 7.0.
                  • #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.
                  • T-15th in YPC allowed with 4.4.
                  • #16 in scoring allowing 25.8 PPG.
                  • T-18th in takeaways averaging 1.1 per game.
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Some stats to kick off the week...

                  Eagles Offense is:

                  • #26 in passing yards with 2118.
                  • T-30th in YPA with 6.2.
                  • T-11th in rush yards with 1105.
                  • T-3rd (with us) in YPC averaging 5.1.
                  • #24 in scoring averaging 22.6 PPG.
                  • #30 in turnovers averaging 1.9 per game.

                  Eagles Defense is:

                  • #5 in passing yards allowed with 1906.
                  • T-9th in YPA allowed with 7.0.
                  • #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.
                  • T-15th in YPC allowed with 4.4.
                  • #16 in scoring allowing 25.8 PPG.
                  • T-18th in takeaways averaging 1.1 per game.

                  This looks like a Chubb and Hunt day, all day. Mix in some slants. 

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                    @bob806 said:

                    Once again, Sendejo is playing way more than was expected of him, due to injuries. He and Karl Joseph were going to mentor/spell Delpit. 

                    The Browns brought in Ronnie Harrison, who has been pretty good. 

                    Yes, clearly he is having problems. The coaches obviously trust Sendejo more than Redwine. Not much the Browns can do about the safety position until the off-season.

                    Once again it is Unacceptable. And Delpit was injured in August.  
                     

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!

                    @sdbacker80 said:

                    Once again it is Unacceptable. And Delpit was injured in August. 

                    WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...

                    Bob nailed it.

                    Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...

                    • When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
                    • Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
                    • Are we just a FS away from our first SB?

                    Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.

                    As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

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                        So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

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                        CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

                        Sendejo may be the best option at FS out there. Redwine went in for a play and bounced off Watson on a blitz.. so lets hope Sendejo stays healthy...

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

                          Sendejo may be the best option at FS out there. Redwine went in for a play and bounced off Watson on a blitz.. so lets hope Sendejo stays healthy...

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                          @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                          Sendejo may be the best option at FS out there. Redwine went in for a play and bounced off Watson on a blitz.. so lets hope Sendejo stays healthy...

                          On our team maybe but not “out there “ in the nation 

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                            So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

                            Caught a couple quotes indicating you are either in or have been in the hospital? So took you off "Perm-Ignore"... temporarily. You're welcome... and hope you get better soon.

                            Anywho since you asked...

                            Not exactly "my theory". You latched onto one of three points I made (so you must not be that ill... 😉 ). It's also a matter of what you want to pay in hopes of gaining how much.

                            I recognize Sendejo has not been playing well... always have... but exactly what has his play cost us? Which game did he lose for us? Two of our three losses were utter blowouts (PTG and BLT) and even the Raider loss was not as close as the score might indicate... and coincidentally it was one of Andrew's better games including a big piece of a goalline stop.

                            He's an old vet... playing out of position... and playing hard. That'll simply have to do for 2021.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

                              Caught a couple quotes indicating you are either in or have been in the hospital? So took you off "Perm-Ignore"... temporarily. You're welcome... and hope you get better soon.

                              Anywho since you asked...

                              Not exactly "my theory". You latched onto one of three points I made (so you must not be that ill... 😉 ). It's also a matter of what you want to pay in hopes of gaining how much.

                              I recognize Sendejo has not been playing well... always have... but exactly what has his play cost us? Which game did he lose for us? Two of our three losses were utter blowouts (PTG and BLT) and even the Raider loss was not as close as the score might indicate... and coincidentally it was one of Andrew's better games including a big piece of a goalline stop.

                              He's an old vet... playing out of position... and playing hard. That'll simply have to do for 2021.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Caught a couple quotes indicating you are either in or have been in the hospital? So took you off "Perm-Ignore"... temporarily. You're welcome... and hope you get better soon.

                              Anywho since you asked...

                              Not exactly "my theory". You latched onto one of three points I made (so you must not be that ill... 😉 ). It's also a matter of what you want to pay in hopes of gaining how much.

                              I recognize Sendejo has not been playing well... always have... but exactly what has his play cost us? Which game did he lose for us? Two of our three losses were utter blowouts (PTG and BLT) and even the Raider loss was not as close as the score might indicate... and coincidentally it was one of Andrew's better games including a big piece of a goalline stop.

                              He's an old vet... playing out of position... and playing hard. That'll simply have to do for 2021.

                              Cardio issues. Going home soon. 69 almost guys get those often. I think you should have supplemented your statement of “what has he cost us” with “so far “. Not much but the potential for him to cost us is ripe 

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                68+ here... so I hear ya. Get off your bench and get your walk on.

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                                  Some stats to kick off the week...

                                  Eagles Offense is:

                                  • #26 in passing yards with 2118.
                                  • T-30th in YPA with 6.2.
                                  • T-11th in rush yards with 1105.
                                  • T-3rd (with us) in YPC averaging 5.1.
                                  • #24 in scoring averaging 22.6 PPG.
                                  • #30 in turnovers averaging 1.9 per game.

                                  Eagles Defense is:

                                  • #5 in passing yards allowed with 1906.
                                  • T-9th in YPA allowed with 7.0.
                                  • #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.
                                  • T-15th in YPC allowed with 4.4.
                                  • #16 in scoring allowing 25.8 PPG.
                                  • T-18th in takeaways averaging 1.1 per game.
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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.

                                  CHOO-CHOO, bitches. Get ready for the running game, Eagles! 

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                                    Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!

                                    @sdbacker80 said:

                                    Once again it is Unacceptable. And Delpit was injured in August. 

                                    WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...

                                    Bob nailed it.

                                    Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...

                                    • When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
                                    • Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
                                    • Are we just a FS away from our first SB?

                                    Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.

                                    As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."

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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!

                                    WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...

                                    Bob nailed it.

                                    Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...

                                    • When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
                                    • Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
                                    • Are we just a FS away from our first SB?

                                    Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.

                                    As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."

                                    Well I have a completely different issue with the scenario that for the most part is falling on deaf ears. 

                                    Delpit was hurt August 24 - three weeks before our first game.  The fact that it’s a week before Thanksgiving and he’s still the best we are putting out their is GM negligence.  I’m not totally absolving the coaching staff for this liability - Sendejo is trotting out there every Sunday and playing major snaps and being put in situations as I mentioned previously that are further exposing his level of talent. 
                                     

                                    How many games have we lost because of this???? Answer this one...Does you opinion change if he gives up a game winning TD when the Eagles get Reagor/Sendejo matchup.  Or Jax finds him and wins?  Or just makes enough poor plays like he’s destined to and we lose by a FG to Giants.

                                    Hes getting better at least this was his best PFF performance of the week- 57.

                                    I truly want to eat a big bowl of crow when he makes some big INT against the Steelers in week 17 to get us into the playoffs.  

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                                      So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?

                                      The 2016 Browns called....and you stole their mantra. I think we got 1 that year 

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                                        Eagles linebacker corps is hot trash.   Might actually be worse than ours.  

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                                        @tiamat63 said:

                                        Eagles linebacker corps is hot trash.   Might actually be worse than ours.  

                                        Any team that signs Desean Jackson thinking he won't be hurt after 1 game deserves a record like Philly has. How freakin' stupid are they?

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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!

                                          WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...

                                          Bob nailed it.

                                          Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...

                                          • When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
                                          • Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
                                          • Are we just a FS away from our first SB?

                                          Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.

                                          As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."

                                          Well I have a completely different issue with the scenario that for the most part is falling on deaf ears. 

                                          Delpit was hurt August 24 - three weeks before our first game.  The fact that it’s a week before Thanksgiving and he’s still the best we are putting out their is GM negligence.  I’m not totally absolving the coaching staff for this liability - Sendejo is trotting out there every Sunday and playing major snaps and being put in situations as I mentioned previously that are further exposing his level of talent. 
                                           

                                          How many games have we lost because of this???? Answer this one...Does you opinion change if he gives up a game winning TD when the Eagles get Reagor/Sendejo matchup.  Or Jax finds him and wins?  Or just makes enough poor plays like he’s destined to and we lose by a FG to Giants.

                                          Hes getting better at least this was his best PFF performance of the week- 57.

                                          I truly want to eat a big bowl of crow when he makes some big INT against the Steelers in week 17 to get us into the playoffs.  

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                                          @sdbacker80 said:

                                          Does you opinion change if he gives us a game winning TD...

                                          For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD... 😉 ... but I know what you meant.

                                          I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it  happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".

                                          "The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).

                                          On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.

                                          Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.

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