Week 11: Philly @ CLE... Here come the Iggles...
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So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
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So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
Sendejo may be the best option at FS out there. Redwine went in for a play and bounced off Watson on a blitz.. so lets hope Sendejo stays healthy...
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So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
Sendejo may be the best option at FS out there. Redwine went in for a play and bounced off Watson on a blitz.. so lets hope Sendejo stays healthy...
Sendejo may be the best option at FS out there. Redwine went in for a play and bounced off Watson on a blitz.. so lets hope Sendejo stays healthy...
On our team maybe but not “out there “ in the nation
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So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
Caught a couple quotes indicating you are either in or have been in the hospital? So took you off "Perm-Ignore"... temporarily. You're welcome... and hope you get better soon.
Anywho since you asked...
Not exactly "my theory". You latched onto one of three points I made (so you must not be that ill...
). It's also a matter of what you want to pay in hopes of gaining how much.
I recognize Sendejo has not been playing well... always have... but exactly what has his play cost us? Which game did he lose for us? Two of our three losses were utter blowouts (PTG and BLT) and even the Raider loss was not as close as the score might indicate... and coincidentally it was one of Andrew's better games including a big piece of a goalline stop.
He's an old vet... playing out of position... and playing hard. That'll simply have to do for 2021.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
Caught a couple quotes indicating you are either in or have been in the hospital? So took you off "Perm-Ignore"... temporarily. You're welcome... and hope you get better soon.
Anywho since you asked...
Not exactly "my theory". You latched onto one of three points I made (so you must not be that ill...
). It's also a matter of what you want to pay in hopes of gaining how much.
I recognize Sendejo has not been playing well... always have... but exactly what has his play cost us? Which game did he lose for us? Two of our three losses were utter blowouts (PTG and BLT) and even the Raider loss was not as close as the score might indicate... and coincidentally it was one of Andrew's better games including a big piece of a goalline stop.
He's an old vet... playing out of position... and playing hard. That'll simply have to do for 2021.
Caught a couple quotes indicating you are either in or have been in the hospital? So took you off "Perm-Ignore"... temporarily. You're welcome... and hope you get better soon.
Anywho since you asked...
Not exactly "my theory". You latched onto one of three points I made (so you must not be that ill...
). It's also a matter of what you want to pay in hopes of gaining how much.
I recognize Sendejo has not been playing well... always have... but exactly what has his play cost us? Which game did he lose for us? Two of our three losses were utter blowouts (PTG and BLT) and even the Raider loss was not as close as the score might indicate... and coincidentally it was one of Andrew's better games including a big piece of a goalline stop.
He's an old vet... playing out of position... and playing hard. That'll simply have to do for 2021.
Cardio issues. Going home soon. 69 almost guys get those often. I think you should have supplemented your statement of “what has he cost us” with “so far “. Not much but the potential for him to cost us is ripe
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Some stats to kick off the week...
Eagles Offense is:
- #26 in passing yards with 2118.
- T-30th in YPA with 6.2.
- T-11th in rush yards with 1105.
- T-3rd (with us) in YPC averaging 5.1.
- #24 in scoring averaging 22.6 PPG.
- #30 in turnovers averaging 1.9 per game.
Eagles Defense is:
- #5 in passing yards allowed with 1906.
- T-9th in YPA allowed with 7.0.
- #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.
- T-15th in YPC allowed with 4.4.
- #16 in scoring allowing 25.8 PPG.
- T-18th in takeaways averaging 1.1 per game.
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Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!
Once again it is Unacceptable. And Delpit was injured in August.
WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...
Bob nailed it.
Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...
- When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
- Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
- Are we just a FS away from our first SB?
Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.
As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."
Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!
WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...
Bob nailed it.
Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...
- When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
- Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
- Are we just a FS away from our first SB?
Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.
As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."
Well I have a completely different issue with the scenario that for the most part is falling on deaf ears.
Delpit was hurt August 24 - three weeks before our first game. The fact that it’s a week before Thanksgiving and he’s still the best we are putting out their is GM negligence. I’m not totally absolving the coaching staff for this liability - Sendejo is trotting out there every Sunday and playing major snaps and being put in situations as I mentioned previously that are further exposing his level of talent.
How many games have we lost because of this???? Answer this one...Does you opinion change if he gives up a game winning TD when the Eagles get Reagor/Sendejo matchup. Or Jax finds him and wins? Or just makes enough poor plays like he’s destined to and we lose by a FG to Giants.
Hes getting better at least this was his best PFF performance of the week- 57.
I truly want to eat a big bowl of crow when he makes some big INT against the Steelers in week 17 to get us into the playoffs.
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So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
So Tour’s theory is that if you have a guy that sucks it’s okay. No need to make an effort to get someone better even if he is hurting the team at times as long as the team wins?
The 2016 Browns called....and you stole their mantra. I think we got 1 that year
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Chubb, Hunt and PAP, baby!
WouldaShouldaCoulda... YadaYadaYada...
Bob nailed it.
Once again Sendejo is obviously the best we have to put on the field at present. Ask your self these...
- When you draft what you believe is your future at a position, how much do you want to spend on a placeholder?
- Had we landed a "better" FS, how different would our record be today?
- Are we just a FS away from our first SB?
Folks that want to bury Berry based on Sendejo need to look at his other moves and see the whole picture.
As my dear old Grandma used to say, "It doesn't suck."
Well I have a completely different issue with the scenario that for the most part is falling on deaf ears.
Delpit was hurt August 24 - three weeks before our first game. The fact that it’s a week before Thanksgiving and he’s still the best we are putting out their is GM negligence. I’m not totally absolving the coaching staff for this liability - Sendejo is trotting out there every Sunday and playing major snaps and being put in situations as I mentioned previously that are further exposing his level of talent.
How many games have we lost because of this???? Answer this one...Does you opinion change if he gives up a game winning TD when the Eagles get Reagor/Sendejo matchup. Or Jax finds him and wins? Or just makes enough poor plays like he’s destined to and we lose by a FG to Giants.
Hes getting better at least this was his best PFF performance of the week- 57.
I truly want to eat a big bowl of crow when he makes some big INT against the Steelers in week 17 to get us into the playoffs.
Does you opinion change if he gives us a game winning TD...
For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Does you opinion change if he gives us a game winning TD...
For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
it would be a shame if we didn’t make the playoffs in a year they expand it to 7 or 8 with an Oline producing the way it is with two exceptional backs and a manageable schedule for once and a guy playing at an MVP level at DE. Health is never promised and Next year our best player or two could god forbid go down with an injury.
It’s August 24th my second round pick goes down and my slot corner has a lacerated liver. But we have Sendejo. Nevermind that he was cut mid season the year before. I guess they tried- they brought in a guy like Ronnie Harrison put a set of training wheels on him (the wheels are still on to some extent). Maybe some of us are letting the emotion get the best of us when we watch Duke Johnson run over our Free Safety but In just about any setting (Win or lose) I got a hard time accepting over and over again that a guy getting way too much time isn’t doing his job. We can point to plays and over time we have a collection of plays. It’s not like we are the Texans playing out the string or the 2016-2017 Browns just filling most spots and let young guys get experience in other spots.Maybe you can accept it because the playoffs are just “gravy” this year?
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I know most Browns fans aren't complaining. If you asked most fans before the season started, "Would you be happy if we were 6-3 at mid-season?" I think most would take it, happily. They really should win at least 4 more. That gets them in the playoffs, and then, who knows?
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Some stats to kick off the week...
Eagles Offense is:
- #26 in passing yards with 2118.
- T-30th in YPA with 6.2.
- T-11th in rush yards with 1105.
- T-3rd (with us) in YPC averaging 5.1.
- #24 in scoring averaging 22.6 PPG.
- #30 in turnovers averaging 1.9 per game.
Eagles Defense is:
- #5 in passing yards allowed with 1906.
- T-9th in YPA allowed with 7.0.
- #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.
- T-15th in YPC allowed with 4.4.
- #16 in scoring allowing 25.8 PPG.
- T-18th in takeaways averaging 1.1 per game.
Some stats to kick off the week...
Eagles Offense is:
- #26 in passing yards with 2118.
- T-30th in YPA with 6.2.
- T-11th in rush yards with 1105.
- T-3rd (with us) in YPC averaging 5.1.
- #24 in scoring averaging 22.6 PPG.
- #30 in turnovers averaging 1.9 per game.
Eagles Defense is:
- #5 in passing yards allowed with 1906.
- T-9th in YPA allowed with 7.0.
- #25 in rushing yards allowed with 1197.
- T-15th in YPC allowed with 4.4.
- #16 in scoring allowing 25.8 PPG.
- T-18th in takeaways averaging 1.1 per game.
you can throw out all those stats......somehow with their shitty record, they are still in the playoff hunt in a shitty division...they know this i'm sure....they are going to come at us....we need to punch them in the snout.......throw out those stats...those don't matter.....
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Does you opinion change if he gives us a game winning TD...
For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
One other factor to consider on making or missing the playoffs: Pitt may not need to win week 17. The Browns are good enough to beat Pitt sitting some of their starters, mainly Big Ben. IF Pgh doesn't need to win (i.e. they have the #1 seed already secured) that would take the Browns from 3 tough games left to 2.
Iggles
Jags
TN
Balt
NYG
NYJ
Pitt
I know, I know - on any given Sunday any team can beat any team, but I feel the Browns should go 5-2 if Pitt doesn't need week 17. And, TN coud be a win. So, in a weird way, Browns should root for KC to lose one or two.
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For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
One other factor to consider on making or missing the playoffs: Pitt may not need to win week 17. The Browns are good enough to beat Pitt sitting some of their starters, mainly Big Ben. IF Pgh doesn't need to win (i.e. they have the #1 seed already secured) that would take the Browns from 3 tough games left to 2.
Iggles
Jags
TN
Balt
NYG
NYJ
Pitt
I know, I know - on any given Sunday any team can beat any team, but I feel the Browns should go 5-2 if Pitt doesn't need week 17. And, TN coud be a win. So, in a weird way, Browns should root for KC to lose one or two.
I feel the Browns should go 5-2 if Pitt doesn't need week 17.
Same thought has crossed my mind, but I think Tomlin has a history of playing his players even when games do not matter to their playoff fate.
Plus with a remaining schedule of @JAX - BLT - WSH - @BUF- @CIN - IND they could be going for win number 16 when they come to our house. A given by no means, but certainly possible.
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Practice reports...
- Surprised to see Hughlett's "FP" after yesterday's Covid report... also that Philly has Covids on list but we do not???
- Richardson's twin "LP" is a lil concerning given that this feels like another ground battle brewing.
- And then of course there's MG's illness... please get better soon...
Injury reports don't really add any info...
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For the record I would have no issues with Sendejo giving us the game winning TD...
... but I know what you meant.
I'm sure the casual fan would feel vindicated to point their finger at him by your scenario... but you don't strike me as a casual fan. I have to believe you know that it is seldom that one play determines a game... it's just that some plays are more obvious than others. That said... if it happened, then I would be bummed out, but really only for the "game that got away".
"The Playoffs" for me have always been gravy... the cherry on top. That's what the thought of them was when I picked the season before it started. It's no different now with the 3rd Wildcard lowering the bar combined with a couple unexpected wins under our belt (I did not see us beating the Cowboys or the Colts IIRC).
On the FO... I think you overlook the Staff input on the roster at that time. Had they put a "the season is at stake" priority on FS, then I think Berry & Co. would have made a move. But clearly they did not and he did not. After all minus anything approaching a meaningful TC let alone scrimmages or Preseason game(s) how could they? Add that both Stef and Woods knew the guy from their days as Vikes and I am sure they were confident in what they at least thought they had at the time. Plus we don't know where Delpit was on the depth chart when he went down... at least I do not.
Here's to me having to ship you a bowl of crow in 2021.
One other factor to consider on making or missing the playoffs: Pitt may not need to win week 17. The Browns are good enough to beat Pitt sitting some of their starters, mainly Big Ben. IF Pgh doesn't need to win (i.e. they have the #1 seed already secured) that would take the Browns from 3 tough games left to 2.
Iggles
Jags
TN
Balt
NYG
NYJ
Pitt
I know, I know - on any given Sunday any team can beat any team, but I feel the Browns should go 5-2 if Pitt doesn't need week 17. And, TN coud be a win. So, in a weird way, Browns should root for KC to lose one or two.
One other factor to consider on making or missing the playoffs: Pitt may not need to win week 17. The Browns are good enough to beat Pitt sitting some of their starters, mainly Big Ben. IF Pgh doesn't need to win (i.e. they have the #1 seed already secured) that would take the Browns from 3 tough games left to 2.
Iggles
Jags
TN
Balt
NYG
NYJ
Pitt
I know, I know - on any given Sunday any team can beat any team, but I feel the Browns should go 5-2 if Pitt doesn't need week 17. And, TN coud be a win. So, in a weird way, Browns should root for KC to lose one or two.
We lost to Duck last year so don’t count your chickens
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