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The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread

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  • @gumby73 said:

    Than me thinks ? we can put College draftable's & Mock draft talks into a Forum called COLLEGE FOOTBALL(it could sure use some views)

    Good Idea... I'll ask hoorta to move it.

    Meanwhile I just checked out Fanspeak's Sim and with some help from thedraftnetwork.com ended up with this 3-rounder... Fanspeak gives you options on ranking to use, needs assessment list and other things.

    A couple notes:

    • Yeah.. Parsons ain't likely to fall to us, but if he's there you run to the podium... virtually or otherwise.
    • Shelvin feels like more of a 2-gap NT to me, but we offset our DL enough to get him near head up on the C. Run stuffer deluxe and certainly pushes the pocket in Pass rushes.
    • I haven't seen much of Ossai, who is listed as Edge suggesting he's more of a 3-4 OLB, but then I read about his coverage abilities and pulled the trigger.
    • And then there is my lone repeat Mike, McGrone. Took a long listen at this podcast to help the decision here... It's a bit dated, but he kid is growing on me.
    • Note that a couple of my earlier PFN sim picks are top 12 here.

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    @tour2ma said:

    Good Idea... I'll ask hoorta to move it.

    I was out in the North Carolina hills for most of the week.... I think this thread is fine where it is...   

  • Welcome back...

    Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.

    image.png.94817200575b7a79a3ce416ffe80722f.png Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.

  • I Loaded up on pass rushers and big covers guys.

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  • I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.

    What did you think of the sim?

  • I see Greedy William's brother is a cornerback for Oklahoma State... Maybe the Browns could go to that well again. 

  • Welcome back...

    Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.

    image.png.94817200575b7a79a3ce416ffe80722f.png Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.

    @tour2ma said:

    Welcome back...

    Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.

    image.png.94817200575b7a79a3ce416ffe80722f.png Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.

    Tyler Vrabel?  BC.   I wonder if he is Mike's Kid? 

  • I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.

    What did you think of the sim?

    @tour2ma said:

    I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.

    What did you think of the sim?

    Me too.....Earl Campbell and Freeman McNeill were two of the best RBs back in the 70s.   😉

  • @tour2ma said:

    Welcome back...

    Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.

    image.png.94817200575b7a79a3ce416ffe80722f.png Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.

    Tyler Vrabel?  BC.   I wonder if he is Mike's Kid? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Tyler Vrabel?  BC.   I wonder if he is Mike's Kid? 

    He is. 

  • I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.

    What did you think of the sim?

    @tour2ma said:

    I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.

    What did you think of the sim?

    McNeill is a big high motor stud. 
     

    I like the sim.  Trade offers are realistic 

  • a qb 

  • I like Caleb Farley.  He’s the tall physical corner type that we need.  The other UM picks not so much.

    Id make a couple assumptions with the Farley pick..

    1. I’ve given up on Greedy.  
    2. I’m not paying Wards next deal.

    Farley is a bridge to these loses.  I’m also resigning T Mitch if the money is right.

    So best available at LB, Safety and DT/DE with the 2,3,3 picks.  
     

    Ice Cream.  Mint Oreo.   But I’d take Handels anything.  They are sprouting up in So. Cal I’m excited about that. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I like Caleb Farley.  He’s the tall physical corner type that we need.  The other UM picks not so much.

    Id make a couple assumptions with the Farley pick..

    1. I’ve given up on Greedy.  
    2. I’m not paying Wards next deal.

    Farley is a bridge to these loses.  I’m also resigning T Mitch if the money is right.

    So best available at LB, Safety and DT/DE with the 2,3,3 picks.  
     

    Ice Cream.  Mint Oreo.   But I’d take Handels anything.  They are sprouting up in So. Cal I’m excited about that. 

    This is the post I was thinking of in the tavern today.  Why are you not giving ward a 2nd contract? If he gets injured a few more times than I can see it but the way he is playing how can you say now you don't want to give him a second contract if he stays healthy. He has played at an all pro level his whole career. Only issue has been injuries. Only thing I can think of is you think he will require too much money but you never know. I think he's worth whatever the going rate is for top 10 corner. Plus he's an Akron kid he may give a hometown discount like hunt has.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I like Caleb Farley.  He’s the tall physical corner type that we need.  The other UM picks not so much.

    Id make a couple assumptions with the Farley pick..

    1. I’ve given up on Greedy.  
    2. I’m not paying Wards next deal.

    Farley is a bridge to these loses.  I’m also resigning T Mitch if the money is right.

    So best available at LB, Safety and DT/DE with the 2,3,3 picks.  
     

    Ice Cream.  Mint Oreo.   But I’d take Handels anything.  They are sprouting up in So. Cal I’m excited about that. 

    This is the post I was thinking of in the tavern today.  Why are you not giving ward a 2nd contract? If he gets injured a few more times than I can see it but the way he is playing how can you say now you don't want to give him a second contract if he stays healthy. He has played at an all pro level his whole career. Only issue has been injuries. Only thing I can think of is you think he will require too much money but you never know. I think he's worth whatever the going rate is for top 10 corner. Plus he's an Akron kid he may give a hometown discount like hunt has.

    @bjh2130 said:

    This is the post I was thinking of in the tavern today.  Why are you not giving ward a 2nd contract? If he gets injured a few more times than I can see it but the way he is playing how can you say now you don't want to give him a second contract if he stays healthy. He has played at an all pro level his whole career. Only issue has been injuries. Only thing I can think of is you think he will require too much money but you never know. I think he's worth whatever the going rate is for top 10 corner. Plus he's an Akron kid he may give a hometown discount like hunt has.

    Well let’s see if he gives the Browns a hometown discount and let’s see if he avoids injuries.

    he played a GREAT game today 

  • a qb 

    @atom said:

    a qb 

    I played with that last nite a little... failed to come up with a Pick Package that would pry the #2 away from JAX.

    I did almost take TAMU's QB, Kellen Mond, in the 3rd tho. He's impressed me this season, but not quite ready to dub him my 2021 Draft Darkhorse QB.

  • @atom said:

    a qb 

    I played with that last nite a little... failed to come up with a Pick Package that would pry the #2 away from JAX.

    I did almost take TAMU's QB, Kellen Mond, in the 3rd tho. He's impressed me this season, but not quite ready to dub him my 2021 Draft Darkhorse QB.

    @tour2ma said:

    I played with that last nite a little... failed to come up with a Pick Package that would pry the #2 away from JAX.

    I did almost take TAMU's QB, Kellen Mond, in the 3rd tho. He's impressed me this season, but not quite ready to dun him my 2021 Draft Darkhorse QB.

    I have been impressed with indiana "s qb

  • @bjh2130 said:

    This is the post I was thinking of in the tavern today.  Why are you not giving ward a 2nd contract? If he gets injured a few more times than I can see it but the way he is playing how can you say now you don't want to give him a second contract if he stays healthy. He has played at an all pro level his whole career. Only issue has been injuries. Only thing I can think of is you think he will require too much money but you never know. I think he's worth whatever the going rate is for top 10 corner. Plus he's an Akron kid he may give a hometown discount like hunt has.

    Well let’s see if he gives the Browns a hometown discount and let’s see if he avoids injuries.

    he played a GREAT game today 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well let’s see if he gives the Browns a hometown discount and let’s see if he avoids injuries.

    he played a GREAT game today 

    So are you assuming he's going to command to much money? 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Well let’s see if he gives the Browns a hometown discount and let’s see if he avoids injuries.

    he played a GREAT game today 

    So are you assuming he's going to command to much money? 

    @bjh2130 said:

    So are you assuming he's going to command to much money? 

    Ramsey, Humphrey, White, Slay, Howard  15M- 20M.  That’s his likely company. 

  • @atom said:

    a qb 

    I played with that last nite a little... failed to come up with a Pick Package that would pry the #2 away from JAX.

    I did almost take TAMU's QB, Kellen Mond, in the 3rd tho. He's impressed me this season, but not quite ready to dub him my 2021 Draft Darkhorse QB.

    @tour2ma said:

    I played with that last nite a little... failed to come up with a Pick Package that would pry the #2 away from JAX.

    I did almost take TAMU's QB, Kellen Mond, in the 3rd tho. He's impressed me this season, but not quite ready to dun him my 2021 Draft Darkhorse QB.

    He has the best offensive line since JFF's at A&M. He has time to smoke BBQ Ribs back there. That said, under the 2020 COVID rules he is seriously thinking of coming back another year.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I played with that last nite a little... failed to come up with a Pick Package that would pry the #2 away from JAX.

    I did almost take TAMU's QB, Kellen Mond, in the 3rd tho. He's impressed me this season, but not quite ready to dun him my 2021 Draft Darkhorse QB.

    I have been impressed with indiana "s qb

    @atom said:

    I have been impressed with indiana "s qb

    He has a very weird delivery though.  Kind of shotputs the ball. 

    • CLE
      17.
      Kyle Pitts
      TE Florida
       
    • CLE
      49.
      Nick Bolton
      LB Missouri
       
    • CLE
      80.
      Tyler Shelvin
      DT LSU
       
    • CLE
      94.
      Joseph Ossai
      LB Texas
       
    • CLE
      112.
      Richard LeCounte
      S Georgia
       
    • CLE
      114.
      Ronnie Perkins
      EDGE Oklahoma
  • Kyle Pitts was too good to pass.  He will be a game changer.  Then with Bolton, my work could have been done there.