The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread
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Sauteing those onions is good.. try caramelizing them! And for slow-cooking a stew or curry, I can't get enough of my Staub enameled cast iron cocotte.
... try caramelizing them!
I do that sometimes... accidentally...
Actually had a great, happy accident once when I was prepping a topping for some Pork Loin cutlets.
I'd done them previously with onion. I'd done them previously with diced apple. This nite after a "why not" moment I was doing both in combo.
Anywho... I walked away for a bit and the caramelization of both began. It was freaking delicious.
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Meanwhile back at the thread...
Did another PFN mock... First, I have to say that anyone into mock sims needs to try this one. Very sophisticated... very well thought out user interface. When considering a trade you can see the needs of teams between you current and potential pick, and the sim's trade value chart by drafttek (it's a new-ish one).
It's only drawbacks are that:
- it offers no ranking choices so it tends to get repetitive; and
- while the sim is free the PFN Scouting reports are subscription... no biggie tho... I just open thedraftnetwork's mock-draft-machine in another tab and use their scouting summaries as a springboard to deeper dives as needed. One side benefit of opening TDN's page is you can see that rankings are far from consensus ATM.
See Repetition Exhibit A below... The only reason I did not end up with Kwity again was that I also drafted for HOU and "they" took him in at #70... but that freed me to trade down a few spots.
I included the Top 8 in this post. So far every sim run has Lawrence and Fields going 1-2. Lance, seen here at #7, is the interesting one. He is the #3 QB off the board, but teams move up to tab him in some pretty substantial trades. Below it was Indy who gave up about 5 picks to CIN to move up 16 spots, but in my first sim it was NE that gave up a couple future firsts in a six-pick package to DAL to take Lance at #4.
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the problem this freaking early, is we don't know who will declare for the mock draft. There are always juniors that might come out
a year early, and be first round picks, etc.
One lb is a sleeper - 6'4' 260, and is a rising star with his team. Lost no speed. Used to be a rb and qb earlier in hs.
Has already been named the Bronko Nagurski National Defensive Player of the Week this season. I think Merlin Robertson, not the guy above, is also a possible late 1st round pick at olb. It's so early though, who knows. I like him better at round 2 for right now....
Parsons and Caleb Farley will be long gone by the time the Browns pick, which I am guessing, will be in the twenties.
way too early.
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Ty Fryfogle WR
I know we need defense find a wayTy Fryfogle WR
I know we need defense find a wayHe's a stud, for sure.
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I think I'm addicted... now up to five rounds
- Rousseau looks to be too good to fall to us, but WTH.... he was there this time.
- Campbell's 6'2" "with fluid hips"
- Owusu is considered by some sites to be a 1st-rounder, but he's a tweener... I see him as SS paired with Delpit at least initially.
- Levi's reportedly a quick-twitch DT with strength.
- Rice is my bargain Mike. Watched him last year and am shocked to see him saddled with a 3/4 round grade... but stock is on the rise.
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Tutu is a flea... 165# and runs a 4.24... ... he might break, but you have to catch him first.
- McNeil is a bigger DT, but also billed as a penetrator. ====> gum? What say you?
- Rose is one of those motor kids... happens to be on Fox playing KSU as I type this.
- Wiggins has already had and come back from an ACL in 2018 and now is out with a shoulder issue... possibly for balance of the year, but has size, speed and skill per reports I read.
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Because they are there...
Not watching a lot of NCAA this season so thought I'd start mocking a little earlier than normal. I always use mocks to make me get more familiar with the draft class.
First up was PFN's slick mock sim complete with reasonable trade action. Focusing on top 100 or so I only did three rounds for now.
Of course one of the things about mocking this early the sim guessing where teams will pick. PFN's has us picking 17th as of now.
I had multiple offers for the 17th pick and moved down to 18 turning a 5th rnd pick into a 3rd in the process in a deal with TN. Then I called back the Iggles who had offered me their 19th (bad guess on their finish.... I hope) and dealt #18 and the 5th I'd picked up for their 19th and a 2021 2nd-rounder. PTG made me an offer in the 3rd round that I did netting their 2021 5th.
Here are the results...
- The top two LBs were gone in the top 13 (3 QBs were taken in the top 4) so I went with VaTechs long, fast CB who has FS potential to boot.
- In round 2 I nabbed a potential bookend for MG.
- In the 3rd I got my fast thumper in the middle and the 2nd coming of the Mad Stork in Cal's 6'6", 250# Deng who played MLB for the Golden Bears, but I see moving outside. Deng is still raw, but he's fast and really agile for his height allowing him to cover TEs with ease.
Because they are there...
Not watching a lot of NCAA this season so thought I'd start mocking a little earlier than normal. I always use mocks to make me get more familiar with the draft class.
First up was PFN's slick mock sim complete with reasonable trade action. Focusing on top 100 or so I only did three rounds for now.
Of course one of the things about mocking this early the sim guessing where teams will pick. PFN's has us picking 17th as of now.
I had multiple offers for the 17th pick and moved down to 18 turning a 5th rnd pick into a 3rd in the process in a deal with TN. Then I called back the Iggles who had offered me their 19th (bad guess on their finish.... I hope) and dealt #18 and the 5th I'd picked up for their 19th and a 2021 2nd-rounder. PTG made me an offer in the 3rd round that I did netting their 2021 5th.
Here are the results...
- The top two LBs were gone in the top 13 (3 QBs were taken in the top 4) so I went with VaTechs long, fast CB who has FS potential to boot.
- In round 2 I nabbed a potential bookend for MG.
- In the 3rd I got my fast thumper in the middle and the 2nd coming of the Mad Stork in Cal's 6'6", 250# Deng who played MLB for the Golden Bears, but I see moving outside. Deng is still raw, but he's fast and really agile for his height allowing him to cover TEs with ease.
Paye will be gone before 49
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Because they are there...
Not watching a lot of NCAA this season so thought I'd start mocking a little earlier than normal. I always use mocks to make me get more familiar with the draft class.
First up was PFN's slick mock sim complete with reasonable trade action. Focusing on top 100 or so I only did three rounds for now.
Of course one of the things about mocking this early the sim guessing where teams will pick. PFN's has us picking 17th as of now.
I had multiple offers for the 17th pick and moved down to 18 turning a 5th rnd pick into a 3rd in the process in a deal with TN. Then I called back the Iggles who had offered me their 19th (bad guess on their finish.... I hope) and dealt #18 and the 5th I'd picked up for their 19th and a 2021 2nd-rounder. PTG made me an offer in the 3rd round that I did netting their 2021 5th.
Here are the results...
- The top two LBs were gone in the top 13 (3 QBs were taken in the top 4) so I went with VaTechs long, fast CB who has FS potential to boot.
- In round 2 I nabbed a potential bookend for MG.
- In the 3rd I got my fast thumper in the middle and the 2nd coming of the Mad Stork in Cal's 6'6", 250# Deng who played MLB for the Golden Bears, but I see moving outside. Deng is still raw, but he's fast and really agile for his height allowing him to cover TEs with ease.
Paye will be gone before 49
Paye will be gone before 49
Probably.... Just a big ranking difference. PFN has him as a 2nd while thedraftnetwork has him as a mid-first. DraftScout has him as a 1st.
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Than me thinks ? we can put College draftable's & Mock draft talks into a Forum called COLLEGE FOOTBALL(it could sure use some views)
Good Idea... I'll ask hoorta to move it.
Meanwhile I just checked out Fanspeak's Sim and with some help from thedraftnetwork.com ended up with this 3-rounder... Fanspeak gives you options on ranking to use, needs assessment list and other things.
A couple notes:
- Yeah.. Parsons ain't likely to fall to us, but if he's there you run to the podium... virtually or otherwise.
- Shelvin feels like more of a 2-gap NT to me, but we offset our DL enough to get him near head up on the C. Run stuffer deluxe and certainly pushes the pocket in Pass rushes.
- I haven't seen much of Ossai, who is listed as Edge suggesting he's more of a 3-4 OLB, but then I read about his coverage abilities and pulled the trigger.
- And then there is my lone repeat Mike, McGrone. Took a long listen at this podcast to help the decision here... It's a bit dated, but he kid is growing on me.
- Note that a couple of my earlier PFN sim picks are top 12 here.
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Welcome back...
Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.
Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I Loaded up on pass rushers and big covers guys.
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I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.
What did you think of the sim?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I see Greedy William's brother is a cornerback for Oklahoma State... Maybe the Browns could go to that well again.
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Welcome back...
Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.
Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.
Welcome back...
Fired up FanSpeak, my least fav sim, but does add another perspective.
Again I'm seeing Owusu at SS.
Tyler Vrabel? BC. I wonder if he is Mike's Kid?
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I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.
What did you think of the sim?
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Tyler Vrabel? BC. I wonder if he is Mike's Kid?
He is.
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I like what I've seen/read about Campbell and McNeill so far.
What did you think of the sim?
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I like Caleb Farley. He’s the tall physical corner type that we need. The other UM picks not so much.
Id make a couple assumptions with the Farley pick..
1. I’ve given up on Greedy.
2. I’m not paying Wards next deal.Farley is a bridge to these loses. I’m also resigning T Mitch if the money is right.
So best available at LB, Safety and DT/DE with the 2,3,3 picks.
Ice Cream. Mint Oreo. But I’d take Handels anything. They are sprouting up in So. Cal I’m excited about that.
I like Caleb Farley. He’s the tall physical corner type that we need. The other UM picks not so much.
Id make a couple assumptions with the Farley pick..
1. I’ve given up on Greedy.
2. I’m not paying Wards next deal.Farley is a bridge to these loses. I’m also resigning T Mitch if the money is right.
So best available at LB, Safety and DT/DE with the 2,3,3 picks.
Ice Cream. Mint Oreo. But I’d take Handels anything. They are sprouting up in So. Cal I’m excited about that.
This is the post I was thinking of in the tavern today. Why are you not giving ward a 2nd contract? If he gets injured a few more times than I can see it but the way he is playing how can you say now you don't want to give him a second contract if he stays healthy. He has played at an all pro level his whole career. Only issue has been injuries. Only thing I can think of is you think he will require too much money but you never know. I think he's worth whatever the going rate is for top 10 corner. Plus he's an Akron kid he may give a hometown discount like hunt has.
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