Big Ben sets new record
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The question is whether or not either Baker or BR are more instrumental to their team's success.
Baker is every bit as essential or essential to this team's current success as BR. Because, again, BR does NOT have to score like 30+ pts a game.
Is BR having a good year? Yes....but he is still dinking and dunking....far more than Brady ever did. (you are in complete Trump mode on that issue...lying in the face of clear evidence to the contrary.) But hell, if you put the Duck in their that team would probably be 9-1.
And the other question is: is BR in the MVP conversation. The answer is clearly NOT....because of what I said....he is clearly not as instrumental to his team's success as is a dozen other players in this league.
(In addition to the QBs I listed above....perhaps throw in Derrick Henry in their as well.
Gipper you never form your own opinions. You go off the talking heads, PFF etc and then come to a conclusion. Anyone suggesting Ben isn't instrumental to the steelers 10-0 record isn't paying attention. Ben also takes quite a few shots per game down field. The man did avulse all his tendons off his elbow. Brady is king of the 10-15 yard pass so again gipper talking out of his ass. I'm used to it but know when I read your diatribes the entire time I'm rolling my eyes.
I'm perfectly fine with the steelers somehow "flying under the radar" at 10-0.
Gipper you never form your own opinions. You go off the talking heads, PFF etc and then come to a conclusion. Anyone suggesting Ben isn't instrumental to the steelers 10-0 record isn't paying attention. Ben also takes quite a few shots per game down field. The man did avulse all his tendons off his elbow. Brady is king of the 10-15 yard pass so again gipper talking out of his ass. I'm used to it but know when I read your diatribes the entire time I'm rolling my eyes.
I'm perfectly fine with the steelers somehow "flying under the radar" at 10-0.
As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them.... .500 the rest of the way out is still an impressive 13-3.
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Gipper you never form your own opinions. You go off the talking heads, PFF etc and then come to a conclusion. Anyone suggesting Ben isn't instrumental to the steelers 10-0 record isn't paying attention. Ben also takes quite a few shots per game down field. The man did avulse all his tendons off his elbow. Brady is king of the 10-15 yard pass so again gipper talking out of his ass. I'm used to it but know when I read your diatribes the entire time I'm rolling my eyes.
I'm perfectly fine with the steelers somehow "flying under the radar" at 10-0.
As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them.... .500 the rest of the way out is still an impressive 13-3.
As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them....
Im not putting the cart before the horse. Mike Tomlin said today "the only thing perfect about is our record"
One game at a time.
Gipper thinks I'm reading all that shit. It so easy wading up his tighty whities.
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Gipper if I go to the draft in Cleveland, assuming covid allows it. I probably won't see you anyway as most people here aren't trying to meet up with you either.
Well, if there were a Browns Board gathering at the Draft....they indeed would be trying to be meeting up with me.....along with all the other regular attendees to those. We would all be trying to meet up with each other.
But, you know who they would not be going out of their way to meet? Take a guess.
So....let me repeat what this thread is about: Ben Roethlisberger is NOT in the running for MVP because he is NOT nearly as instrumental to his team's success as an entire other host of players are to their team's success this year...Including Mayfield. No matter how much you want to delude yourself about....THAT is the basic truth.
Well, if there were a Browns Board gathering at the Draft....they indeed would be trying to be meeting up with me.....along with all the other regular attendees to those. We would all be trying to meet up with each other.
But, you know who they would not be going out of their way to meet? Take a guess.
So....let me repeat what this thread is about: Ben Roethlisberger is NOT in the running for MVP because he is NOT nearly as instrumental to his team's success as an entire other host of players are to their team's success this year...Including Mayfield. No matter how much you want to delude yourself about....THAT is the basic truth.
So freaking what? 10-0 is 10-0. Seems only you care about something that meaningless... BTW- I'm certainly coming up for the draft- and I'd be more than happy to meet up with Vag...
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Gipper you never form your own opinions. You go off the talking heads, PFF etc and then come to a conclusion. Anyone suggesting Ben isn't instrumental to the steelers 10-0 record isn't paying attention. Ben also takes quite a few shots per game down field. The man did avulse all his tendons off his elbow. Brady is king of the 10-15 yard pass so again gipper talking out of his ass. I'm used to it but know when I read your diatribes the entire time I'm rolling my eyes.
I'm perfectly fine with the steelers somehow "flying under the radar" at 10-0.
As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them.... .500 the rest of the way out is still an impressive 13-3.
As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them.... .500 the rest of the way out is still an impressive 13-3.
I am flapping my gums over a subject that someone else brought up. And that subject is actually the subject of this thread: BR's MVP potentiality. I mean, if you don't think that is subject worthy of discussion here...so be it. But I am certainly NOT alone in that matter.
Here are CBS Sports top candidates so far:
Here's a breakdown of our voting:- Patrick Mahomes: 20 points.
- Russell Wilson: 14 points.
- Kyler Murray: 12 points.
- Aaron Rodgers: 10 points.
- Tom Brady: Two points
- And here is a betting sites odds:
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Player Odds to win 2020 NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes (KC) +175 Russell Wilson (SEA) +280 Aaron Rodgers (GB) +300 Kyler Murray (ARI) +800 Tom Brady (TB) +2000 Josh Allen (BUF) +2300 - I could add others, but won't belabor it.
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Well, if there were a Browns Board gathering at the Draft....they indeed would be trying to be meeting up with me.....along with all the other regular attendees to those. We would all be trying to meet up with each other.
But, you know who they would not be going out of their way to meet? Take a guess.
So....let me repeat what this thread is about: Ben Roethlisberger is NOT in the running for MVP because he is NOT nearly as instrumental to his team's success as an entire other host of players are to their team's success this year...Including Mayfield. No matter how much you want to delude yourself about....THAT is the basic truth.
So freaking what? 10-0 is 10-0. Seems only you care about something that meaningless... BTW- I'm certainly coming up for the draft- and I'd be more than happy to meet up with Vag...
So freaking what? 10-0 is 10-0. Seems only you care about something that meaningless... BTW- I'm certainly coming up for the draft- and I'd be more than happy to meet up with Vag...
So....what? As perhaps important as that may be.....That is totally off This subject, more or less. A non sequiter. They are 10-0 because of their outstanding defense...NOT because BR is a league MVP candidate. Not like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers etc. Apples and oranges.
And I would be glad to meet him as well......I have no problem with him.....I am just not of the opinion that we should allow his Steelsucker Propaganda to go unchallenged. Yea, have him come to the next BB tailgate.....whenever we can have one. In fact.....he runs some kind of food operation. Have him cater the event. He can pick up the tab!!! Or, maybe we can all chip in our usual 5 bucks.
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So freaking what? 10-0 is 10-0. Seems only you care about something that meaningless... BTW- I'm certainly coming up for the draft- and I'd be more than happy to meet up with Vag...
So....what? As perhaps important as that may be.....That is totally off This subject, more or less. A non sequiter. They are 10-0 because of their outstanding defense...NOT because BR is a league MVP candidate. Not like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers etc. Apples and oranges.
And I would be glad to meet him as well......I have no problem with him.....I am just not of the opinion that we should allow his Steelsucker Propaganda to go unchallenged. Yea, have him come to the next BB tailgate.....whenever we can have one. In fact.....he runs some kind of food operation. Have him cater the event. He can pick up the tab!!! Or, maybe we can all chip in our usual 5 bucks.
So....what? As perhaps important as that may be.....That is totally off This subject, more or less. A non sequiter. They are 10-0 because of their outstanding defense...NOT because BR is a league MVP candidate. Not like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers etc. Apples and oranges.
Yawn.. as they say- "it's a TEAM game". Sure, any competent NFL QB has the Steelers at 10-0. But they're sure as hell not 10-0 with Bubby Brister at QB.
May not be in the running for NFL MVP- but he's way ahead in the running as the TEAM MVP. Got another Steeler you'd care to mention for that award?
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So....what? As perhaps important as that may be.....That is totally off This subject, more or less. A non sequiter. They are 10-0 because of their outstanding defense...NOT because BR is a league MVP candidate. Not like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers etc. Apples and oranges.
Yawn.. as they say- "it's a TEAM game". Sure, any competent NFL QB has the Steelers at 10-0. But they're sure as hell not 10-0 with Bubby Brister at QB.
May not be in the running for NFL MVP- but he's way ahead in the running as the TEAM MVP. Got another Steeler you'd care to mention for that award?
Yawn.. as they say- "it's a TEAM game". Sure, any competent NFL QB has the Steelers at 10-0. But they're sure as hell not 10-0 with Bubby Brister at QB.
May not be in the running for NFL MVP- but he's way ahead in the running as the TEAM MVP. Got another Steeler you'd care to mention for that award?
Thanks for making my point there. But I stand by my point that perhaps they could be 9-1 with the Duck.
Plus, I think it may be fair to say that the team MVP of any successful team will always be their QB. For them there could be some defenders in the running.
And, I think, despite the shit he is given sometimes here, Baker Mayfield is likely the Browns Team MVP. Got another Brown you'd care to mention for that award? (I would have said Garrett....but they seemed to manage without him fairly well today.....10 pts. really, not counting the TD in garbage time)
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Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.
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Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.
Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.
Well, he is a blinders on Steeler fan. Not necessarily faulting him for that. Nevertheless, in some races you have to take the blinders off the horse to let them see peripherally.
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Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.
Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.
True colors? Giving gipper the shit he deserves? That's a battle as old as time. You new here?
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.
True colors? Giving gipper the shit he deserves? That's a battle as old as time. You new here?
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Nick Farabaugh@FarabaughFBOne of Ben's best throws of the season. This is the definition of perfect placement by him. And off his back foot, too.Oh look at this dink, or is it a dunk? Several more just like it today.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
It's a damn shame the actual Browns didn't put up half the fight vs the Steelers early this season as Gipper does against Steelers fans.
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**** Nick Chubb running out of bounds at the 1 yard line made the Texans game a 1 score game. Otherwise it likely would have been a 10 pt. win. While that play worked out, I still don't think it was necessary for him to do.
**** Nick Chubb running out of bounds at the 1 yard line made the Texans game a 1 score game. Otherwise it likely would have been a 10 pt. win. While that play worked out, I still don't think it was necessary for him to do.
Nick agrees with you
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Nick Farabaugh@FarabaughFBOne of Ben's best throws of the season. This is the definition of perfect placement by him. And off his back foot, too.
Oh look at this dink, or is it a dunk? Several more just like it today.
Oh look at this dink, or is it a dunk? Several more just like it today.
OOOH.....he had all of 8.34 yards per completion. On 32 of 46 for 267 yards....
Baker Mayfield today averaged more than double that: 16.83 yards. MORE THAN DOUBLE. And less than half the number of throws....only 22 total attempts.
One of these statistics is impressive.
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It's a damn shame the actual Browns didn't put up half the fight vs the Steelers early this season as Gipper does against Steelers fans.
It's a damn shame the actual Browns didn't put up half the fight vs the Steelers early this season as Gipper does against Steelers fans.
To be fair, it seems that almost most Steeler trolls have been run off of here.
You're welcome.
At least Vag has the courage to stick it out and take his medicine. Either that or he is truly a masochist.
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Oh look at this dink, or is it a dunk? Several more just like it today.
OOOH.....he had all of 8.34 yards per completion. On 32 of 46 for 267 yards....
Baker Mayfield today averaged more than double that: 16.83 yards. MORE THAN DOUBLE. And less than half the number of throws....only 22 total attempts.
One of these statistics is impressive.
OOOH.....he had all of 8.34 yards per completion. On 32 of 46 for 267 yards....
Baker Mayfield today averaged more than double that: 16.83 yards. MORE THAN DOUBLE. And less than half the number of throws....only 22 total attempts.
One of these statistics is impressive.
It's the throw dumbass. He was off his back foot, threw outside the numbers on a perfect ball. I don't give a shit about baker.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
It's a damn shame the actual Browns didn't put up half the fight vs the Steelers early this season as Gipper does against Steelers fans.
To be fair, it seems that almost most Steeler trolls have been run off of here.
You're welcome.
At least Vag has the courage to stick it out and take his medicine. Either that or he is truly a masochist.
To be fair, it seems that almost most Steeler trolls have been run off of here.
You're welcome.
At least Vag has the courage to stick it out and take his medicine. Either that or he is truly a masochist.
What medicine? You are wrong more.than you are right when talking to me. I wish I had documented all your horrid steeler takes. It goes back as far as super bowl xl for me. "The steelers can't and won't win with that offensive line" was the general gist coming out of your mouth.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
OOOH.....he had all of 8.34 yards per completion. On 32 of 46 for 267 yards....
Baker Mayfield today averaged more than double that: 16.83 yards. MORE THAN DOUBLE. And less than half the number of throws....only 22 total attempts.
One of these statistics is impressive.
It's the throw dumbass. He was off his back foot, threw outside the numbers on a perfect ball. I don't give a shit about baker.
It's the throw dumbass. He was off his back foot, threw outside the numbers on a perfect ball. I don't give a shit about baker.
I didn't even bother looking at your one throw.
Dink Dunk. More than double. 8.34 vs. 16.83.
And FYI, neither Baker nor anyone else gives a shit about you. Hell, if it were not for me pulling your wings off...no one here would bother to even interact with you.
Except when you cater our tailgate.
And hell....you must be laying in wait to poke you like bear. I haven't been on here for like 3-4 hours, but the minute I post a reply, you are there 30 seconds later. Is your life lived just waiting for me to respond to one of your posts? Sounds like you are stalking me.
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To be fair, it seems that almost most Steeler trolls have been run off of here.
You're welcome.
At least Vag has the courage to stick it out and take his medicine. Either that or he is truly a masochist.
What medicine? You are wrong more.than you are right when talking to me. I wish I had documented all your horrid steeler takes. It goes back as far as super bowl xl for me. "The steelers can't and won't win with that offensive line" was the general gist coming out of your mouth.
What medicine? You are wrong more.than you are right when talking to me. I wish I had documented all your horrid steeler takes. It goes back as far as super bowl xl for me. "The steelers can't and won't win with that offensive line" was the general gist coming out of your mouth.
Oh, I have kicked your ass up and down the county. You are just too dumb to know it. And also, now you are just a fucking liar. I never said any such thing about the Steeler's OL. If I recall when I did my unit comparisons I stated that the Browns and the Steelers had fairly even OLs...both of which I said could be among the best in the league, and that has apparently proven to be the case.
I said our RBs and WRs and TEs were better. (WRs were....until we lost OBJ...and before it seemed that Claypool developed.) I said our DLs and our DBs were close to even. (again, before the Browns lost two potential DB starters.....but they are still about even likely even then). But obviously, the Steelers LB corps is much superior. Steelers have 3 Ist round picks there, Browns have invested nothing close to that (a 3rd rounder is the highest pick in Browns LB corps...and that guy did get a pick 6 today.).
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