Big Ben sets new record

Vagitron

@hoorta said:

As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them....

Im not putting the cart before the horse. Mike Tomlin said today "the only thing perfect about is our record"

One game at a time.

Gipper thinks I'm reading all that shit. It so easy wading up his tighty whities.

hoorta

@the-gipper said:

Well, if there were a Browns Board gathering at the Draft....they indeed would be trying to be meeting up with me.....along with all the other regular attendees to those. We would all be trying to meet up with each other.

But, you know who they would not be going out of their way to meet? Take a guess.

So....let me repeat what this thread is about: Ben Roethlisberger is NOT in the running for MVP because he is NOT nearly as instrumental to his team's success as an entire other host of players are to their team's success this year...Including Mayfield. No matter how much you want to delude yourself about....THAT is the basic truth.

So freaking what? 10-0 is 10-0. Seems only you care about something that meaningless... BTW- I'm certainly coming up for the draft- and I'd be more than happy to meet up with Vag...

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

As well you should be. Gipper is just flapping his gums over minutiae. The Steelers all but have the Division wrapped up. Even should they lose to the Ratbirds Thanksgiving evening, Bills, and Browns in the finale- Cleveland would have to run the table to catch them.... .500 the rest of the way out is still an impressive 13-3.

I am flapping my gums over a subject that someone else brought up. And that subject is actually the subject of this thread: BR's MVP potentiality. I mean, if you don't think that is subject worthy of discussion here...so be it. But I am certainly NOT alone in that matter.

Here are CBS Sports top candidates so far:

Here's a breakdown of our voting:

Patrick Mahomes: 20 points.
Russell Wilson: 14 points.
Kyler Murray: 12 points.
Aaron Rodgers: 10 points.
Tom Brady: Two points
And here is a betting sites odds:

Player	Odds to win 2020 NFL MVP
Patrick Mahomes (KC)	+175
Russell Wilson (SEA)	+280
Aaron Rodgers (GB)	+300
Kyler Murray (ARI)	+800
Tom Brady (TB)	+2000
Josh Allen (BUF)	+2300

I could add others, but won't belabor it.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

So freaking what? 10-0 is 10-0. Seems only you care about something that meaningless... BTW- I'm certainly coming up for the draft- and I'd be more than happy to meet up with Vag...

So....what? As perhaps important as that may be.....That is totally off This subject, more or less. A non sequiter. They are 10-0 because of their outstanding defense...NOT because BR is a league MVP candidate. Not like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers etc. Apples and oranges.

And I would be glad to meet him as well......I have no problem with him.....I am just not of the opinion that we should allow his Steelsucker Propaganda to go unchallenged. Yea, have him come to the next BB tailgate.....whenever we can have one. In fact.....he runs some kind of food operation. Have him cater the event. He can pick up the tab!!! Or, maybe we can all chip in our usual 5 bucks.

hoorta

@the-gipper said:

So....what? As perhaps important as that may be.....That is totally off This subject, more or less. A non sequiter. They are 10-0 because of their outstanding defense...NOT because BR is a league MVP candidate. Not like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers etc. Apples and oranges.

Yawn.. as they say- "it's a TEAM game". Sure, any competent NFL QB has the Steelers at 10-0. But they're sure as hell not 10-0 with Bubby Brister at QB. May not be in the running for NFL MVP- but he's way ahead in the running as the TEAM MVP. Got another Steeler you'd care to mention for that award?

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

Yawn.. as they say- "it's a TEAM game". Sure, any competent NFL QB has the Steelers at 10-0. But they're sure as hell not 10-0 with Bubby Brister at QB. May not be in the running for NFL MVP- but he's way ahead in the running as the TEAM MVP. Got another Steeler you'd care to mention for that award?

Thanks for making my point there. But I stand by my point that perhaps they could be 9-1 with the Duck.

Plus, I think it may be fair to say that the team MVP of any successful team will always be their QB. For them there could be some defenders in the running.

And, I think, despite the shit he is given sometimes here, Baker Mayfield is likely the Browns Team MVP. Got another Brown you'd care to mention for that award? (I would have said Garrett....but they seemed to manage without him fairly well today.....10 pts. really, not counting the TD in garbage time)

TypicalBrowns50

Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.

The Gipper

@typicalbrowns50 said:

Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.

Well, he is a blinders on Steeler fan. Not necessarily faulting him for that. Nevertheless, in some races you have to take the blinders off the horse to let them see peripherally.

Vagitron

@typicalbrowns50 said:

Vagitron is becoming a bit much Showing his true colors.

True colors? Giving gipper the shit he deserves? That's a battle as old as time. You new here?

The Gipper

@vagitron said:

True colors? Giving gipper the shit he deserves? That's a battle as old as time. You new here?

You couldn't give me shit if your name were Ed Norton. (figure that one out).

Vagitron

Oh look at this dink, or is it a dunk? Several more just like it today.

Dutch Oven

It's a damn shame the actual Browns didn't put up half the fight vs the Steelers early this season as Gipper does against Steelers fans.

hish747

@the-gipper said:

**** Nick Chubb running out of bounds at the 1 yard line made the Texans game a 1 score game. Otherwise it likely would have been a 10 pt. win. While that play worked out, I still don't think it was necessary for him to do.

Nick agrees with you

The Gipper · Nov 22, 2020 145 6View on X

@vagitron said:

https://twitter.com/farabaughfb/status/1330644675313750016?s=21

Oh look at this dink, or is it a dunk? Several more just like it today.

OOOH.....he had all of 8.34 yards per completion. On 32 of 46 for 267 yards....

Baker Mayfield today averaged more than double that: 16.83 yards. MORE THAN DOUBLE. And less than half the number of throws....only 22 total attempts.

One of these statistics is impressive.

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

It's a damn shame the actual Browns didn't put up half the fight vs the Steelers early this season as Gipper does against Steelers fans.

To be fair, it seems that almost most Steeler trolls have been run off of here.

You're welcome.

At least Vag has the courage to stick it out and take his medicine. Either that or he is truly a masochist.

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:

OOOH.....he had all of 8.34 yards per completion. On 32 of 46 for 267 yards....

Baker Mayfield today averaged more than double that: 16.83 yards. MORE THAN DOUBLE. And less than half the number of throws....only 22 total attempts.

One of these statistics is impressive.

It's the throw dumbass. He was off his back foot, threw outside the numbers on a perfect ball. I don't give a shit about baker.

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:

To be fair, it seems that almost most Steeler trolls have been run off of here.

You're welcome.

At least Vag has the courage to stick it out and take his medicine. Either that or he is truly a masochist.

What medicine? You are wrong more.than you are right when talking to me. I wish I had documented all your horrid steeler takes. It goes back as far as super bowl xl for me. "The steelers can't and won't win with that offensive line" was the general gist coming out of your mouth.

The Gipper

@vagitron said:

It's the throw dumbass. He was off his back foot, threw outside the numbers on a perfect ball. I don't give a shit about baker.

I didn't even bother looking at your one throw.

Dink Dunk. More than double. 8.34 vs. 16.83.

And FYI, neither Baker nor anyone else gives a shit about you. Hell, if it were not for me pulling your wings off...no one here would bother to even interact with you.

Except when you cater our tailgate.

And hell....you must be laying in wait to poke you like bear. I haven't been on here for like 3-4 hours, but the minute I post a reply, you are there 30 seconds later. Is your life lived just waiting for me to respond to one of your posts? Sounds like you are stalking me.

The Gipper

@vagitron said:

What medicine? You are wrong more.than you are right when talking to me. I wish I had documented all your horrid steeler takes. It goes back as far as super bowl xl for me. "The steelers can't and won't win with that offensive line" was the general gist coming out of your mouth.

Oh, I have kicked your ass up and down the county. You are just too dumb to know it. And also, now you are just a fucking liar. I never said any such thing about the Steeler's OL. If I recall when I did my unit comparisons I stated that the Browns and the Steelers had fairly even OLs...both of which I said could be among the best in the league, and that has apparently proven to be the case.

I said our RBs and WRs and TEs were better. (WRs were....until we lost OBJ...and before it seemed that Claypool developed.) I said our DLs and our DBs were close to even. (again, before the Browns lost two potential DB starters.....but they are still about even likely even then). But obviously, the Steelers LB corps is much superior. Steelers have 3 Ist round picks there, Browns have invested nothing close to that (a 3rd rounder is the highest pick in Browns LB corps...and that guy did get a pick 6 today.).

Canton Dawg

@vagitron said:

True colors? Giving gipper the shit he deserves? That's a battle as old as time. You new here?

In some places the battle of good vs evil is timeless.

In some forums you have Ford vs Chevy, or David Lee Roth vs Sammy Hagar, or even Tastes Great vs Less Filling.

On the Browns Board its Gip vs Vag....grab your popcorn.