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The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    A&M   20        LSU    7      Permanent replacement for T-Day weekend.?

    Got my scouting eyes on LB Buddy Johnson?... Buddy just jumped up to #4 at draftscouts at ILB... Adding a few NFL pounds wood not hurt that kids playing frame(234lbs.).. has the looks of a banging baller?  Bud Dupree'ish came to my mind.. gods, keep him away from black & gold jerseys ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Got my scouting eyes on LB Buddy Johnson?... Buddy just jumped up to #4 at draftscouts at ILB... Adding a few NFL pounds wood not hurt that kids playing frame(234lbs.).. has the looks of a banging baller?  Bud Dupree'ish came to my mind.. gods, keep him away from black & gold jerseys ?

    I hope that he and Mond both take advantage of the "free" extra year of eligibility and come back next year. He's the heart of that D along with Soph SDE DeMarvin Leal 6'4" 290, another Garrett in the making. Like Garrett they have to gameplan around him. Game was played in rain most game long, so it was dominated by defenses. LSU scored a gimme with 38 seconds left in the game. A&M had not played in 3 weeks and the offense looked it rain or no rain.

  •  Cap for next year has been set at 175.

    Browns this season are 190. Obligations for next season are 8m over at present.

  • found this about Zaven Collins in my research..... It's early, but If I did a mock draft today.......

    Zaven is my first round pick.

  •  Cap for next year has been set at 175.

    Browns this season are 190. Obligations for next season are 8m over at present.

    @unsympathetic said:

     Cap for next year has been set at 175.

    Browns this season are 190. Obligations for next season are 8m over at present.

    I would have said getting rid of Olivier Vernon would have solved issues of that sort....but maybe not....if he plays the rest of the season the way he played last week. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

     Cap for next year has been set at 175.

    Browns this season are 190. Obligations for next season are 8m over at present.

    I would have said getting rid of Olivier Vernon would have solved issues of that sort....but maybe not....if he plays the rest of the season the way he played last week. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I would have said getting rid of Olivier Vernon would have solved issues of that sort....but maybe not....if he plays the rest of the season the way he played last week. 

    We need to pump the brakes a bit- He faced a weak turnstile last week.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    I would have said getting rid of Olivier Vernon would have solved issues of that sort....but maybe not....if he plays the rest of the season the way he played last week. 

    We need to pump the brakes a bit- He faced a weak turnstile last week.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    We need to pump the brakes a bit- He faced a weak turnstile last week.  

    He has had 5 sacks in the last 3 games, though.

    Maybe he's finally feeling good and healthy?

  • If Harrison is injury prone he may not be able to be counted on.. and no long-term contract for him, thus early-round DB needs to be back on the list.  Greedy may be able to transition to S if he can't be a long-term CB due to his own injury issues.

    Not unlike what my board looked like last year.. DB, LB, LB, DI should be our first 4 picks in some order.  If oneof the first-round LB doesn't fall, Paris Ford looks strong. Jevon Holland isn't good at pass coverage.

    I tend to think of "tiers" in both NFL and NBA drafts after the top-of-round-1 guys.

  • If Harrison is injury prone he may not be able to be counted on.. and no long-term contract for him, thus early-round DB needs to be back on the list.  Greedy may be able to transition to S if he can't be a long-term CB due to his own injury issues.

    Not unlike what my board looked like last year.. DB, LB, LB, DI should be our first 4 picks in some order.  If oneof the first-round LB doesn't fall, Paris Ford looks strong. Jevon Holland isn't good at pass coverage.

    I tend to think of "tiers" in both NFL and NBA drafts after the top-of-round-1 guys.

    @unsympathetic said:

    If Harrison is injury prone he may not be able to be counted on.. and no long-term contract for him, thus early-round DB needs to be back on the list.  

    I like Harrison, but the dude gets hurt like EVERY GAME. I'm pretty sure he's had to leave a game 3 or 4 times so far this year, and he barely played at the beginning of the season.

    I'm kind of scared to go into next season with Harrison at SS and Delpit at FS... That's a lot of crossed fingers there. 

  • Questions:

    If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold  (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can?      Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him? 

    And which QB do they take if they do take one?   I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets? 

  • Questions:

    If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold  (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can?      Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him? 

    And which QB do they take if they do take one?   I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Questions:

    If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold  (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can?      Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him? 

    And which QB do they take if they do take one?   I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets?

    I think they are in the same spot we were last year with a major OL need. You can't be a good QB while running for your life 1 sec into every play. If they trade down look for OL concentration if they do not pick any up in FA.

  • Questions:

    If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold  (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can?      Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him? 

    And which QB do they take if they do take one?   I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Questions:

    If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold  (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can?      Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him? 

    And which QB do they take if they do take one?   I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets? 

    I’d trade Darnold and take Lawrence or Fields.  
    They just drafted a LT that is performing well.  If you are in top 5 of the draft- Franchise QB, Hall of Fame Left Tackle or Elite Offensive weapon or elite defensive end pass rusher. 
    Lawrence slightly over Fields now- not by much. 

  • Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.

    Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.

    The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.

  • Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.

    Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.

    The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.

    Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.

    The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.

    They need some offensive firepower too.  Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it. 
     

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.

    Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.

    The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.

    They need some offensive firepower too.  Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it. 
     

    @sdbacker80 said:

    They need some offensive firepower too.  Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it. 
     

    Crowder actually plays well but has been plagued by injury so far. Again part of it is QB not having time to get it to him.

  • what round would you draft a qb ? im thinking 4-7  and I wonder who we might look at

  • what round would you draft a qb ? im thinking 4-7  and I wonder who we might look at

    @atom said:

    what round would you draft a qb ? im thinking 4-7  and I wonder who we might look at

    I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.

    Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm. 

  • @atom said:

    what round would you draft a qb ? im thinking 4-7  and I wonder who we might look at

    I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.

    Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.

    Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm. 

    which team does he hail from

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.

    Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm. 

    which team does he hail from

    @atom said:

    which team does he hail from

    UC Bearcats he seems to be climbing into day 2 though possibly 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.

    Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.

    The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.

    They need some offensive firepower too.  Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it. 
     

    @sdbacker80 said:

    They need some offensive firepower too.  Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it. 
     

    Bell certainly isn't cutting it for them, as he is not on their team anymore

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    They need some offensive firepower too.  Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it. 
     

    Bell certainly isn't cutting it for them, as he is not on their team anymore

    @gunz41 said:

    Bell certainly isn't cutting it for them, as he is not on their team anymore

    Glad you understand they are void of weapons