The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread
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I would have said getting rid of Olivier Vernon would have solved issues of that sort....but maybe not....if he plays the rest of the season the way he played last week.
We need to pump the brakes a bit- He faced a weak turnstile last week.
We need to pump the brakes a bit- He faced a weak turnstile last week.
He has had 5 sacks in the last 3 games, though.
Maybe he's finally feeling good and healthy?
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If Harrison is injury prone he may not be able to be counted on.. and no long-term contract for him, thus early-round DB needs to be back on the list. Greedy may be able to transition to S if he can't be a long-term CB due to his own injury issues.
Not unlike what my board looked like last year.. DB, LB, LB, DI should be our first 4 picks in some order. If oneof the first-round LB doesn't fall, Paris Ford looks strong. Jevon Holland isn't good at pass coverage.
I tend to think of "tiers" in both NFL and NBA drafts after the top-of-round-1 guys.
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If Harrison is injury prone he may not be able to be counted on.. and no long-term contract for him, thus early-round DB needs to be back on the list. Greedy may be able to transition to S if he can't be a long-term CB due to his own injury issues.
Not unlike what my board looked like last year.. DB, LB, LB, DI should be our first 4 picks in some order. If oneof the first-round LB doesn't fall, Paris Ford looks strong. Jevon Holland isn't good at pass coverage.
I tend to think of "tiers" in both NFL and NBA drafts after the top-of-round-1 guys.
If Harrison is injury prone he may not be able to be counted on.. and no long-term contract for him, thus early-round DB needs to be back on the list.
I like Harrison, but the dude gets hurt like EVERY GAME. I'm pretty sure he's had to leave a game 3 or 4 times so far this year, and he barely played at the beginning of the season.
I'm kind of scared to go into next season with Harrison at SS and Delpit at FS... That's a lot of crossed fingers there.
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Questions:
If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can? Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him?
And which QB do they take if they do take one? I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets?
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Questions:
If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can? Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him?
And which QB do they take if they do take one? I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets?
Questions:
If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can? Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him?
And which QB do they take if they do take one? I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets?
I think they are in the same spot we were last year with a major OL need. You can't be a good QB while running for your life 1 sec into every play. If they trade down look for OL concentration if they do not pick any up in FA.
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Questions:
If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can? Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him?
And which QB do they take if they do take one? I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets?
Questions:
If the Jets have the #1 overall pick....do they take a QB, even though they have Darnold (as, to be fair, Darnold is NOT the reason they suck so badly)....or do they pick another position....or trade down to get multiple picks.....to get as much needed talent as they can? Or, do they take the QB and trade Darnold, and what could they get for him?
And which QB do they take if they do take one? I assume it would be Trevor Lawrence....but would he pull an Elway or an Eli and say: no way am I going to the Jets?
I’d trade Darnold and take Lawrence or Fields.
They just drafted a LT that is performing well. If you are in top 5 of the draft- Franchise QB, Hall of Fame Left Tackle or Elite Offensive weapon or elite defensive end pass rusher.
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Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
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Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
They need some offensive firepower too. Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it.
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Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
They need some offensive firepower too. Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it.
They need some offensive firepower too. Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it.
Crowder actually plays well but has been plagued by injury so far. Again part of it is QB not having time to get it to him.
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what round would you draft a qb ? im thinking 4-7 and I wonder who we might look at
I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.
Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm.
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I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.
Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm.
which team does he hail from
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I like Desmond Ridder if we are looking towards the middle end of the draft.
Bigger, athletic and moves in the pocket well and has a pretty good arm.
which team does he hail from
which team does he hail from
UC Bearcats he seems to be climbing into day 2 though possibly
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Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
They need some offensive firepower too. Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it.
They need some offensive firepower too. Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it.
Bell certainly isn't cutting it for them, as he is not on their team anymore
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They need some offensive firepower too. Berrios, Crowder, Mims, Lev Bell - not cutting it.
Bell certainly isn't cutting it for them, as he is not on their team anymore
Bell certainly isn't cutting it for them, as he is not on their team anymore
Glad you understand they are void of weapons
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Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
Also agree about UL's Bekton. He has exceeded my projections at LT... but I am still glad they took him and started Wills "slide" to us.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
Agree... and think Jets will take Lawrence. His greater experience gives him the edge.
The Jets have a pick later in the first... likely in the mid-20s... and 1st pick in round 2. IOL class looks to lack elite, Rnd-1 quality, but has solid Rnd 2 value. And there are really promising OT values throughout Days 1 and 2... some of which could slide inside as well. In short they have the picks to fix their OL after going QB.
Yes, but will Lawrence take the Jets. Like I said, I still think he could just say "No thank you" to the Jets organization....and maybe even stay in school another year rather than go there. Or do something to quash their interest in him.
Though, I guess they could sell him on being the "next Joe Namath"...and get him a pair of sunglasses and a full length white (faux) fur coat.
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Warmed up the mock machine again. This time went the full 7 rounds, but we don't have a lot of late round picks. I added a couple via modest trade downs.
Note we are now picking 24th based on our current record. In my OP effort we were picking 17th.
- Farley is just there every time. Helps that he's too good to pass up. (Note: Kwitty is now gone well before we pick).
- Went with a trio of LBs... both Surratt and McGrone are welcome repeats. New addition is UVA's Snowden... he's a bit of a freak at 6'6, 240#, but has coverage skills. Can play DE in a NASCAR now, and if/when adds weight grow into a full-time DE.
- Pair of Safeties in Wiggins and Deablo. Both have injury history, but can play. Wiggins looks more FS-ish, but Delpit can play in the box. Deablo (great name) is pure SS and a banger.
- FSU's Wilson would be a frickin' steal at 118.
- Topped this off with a nod to the O with a good WR in Brown (6'1, 185#, 4.4-ish) and a burner RB in Pooka (5'10, 170#, 4.24 40!). Brown posted this line at UVA in early November: 11 for 240 and 3 TDs.
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My takes in the first draft sim: 5 Rounds
24. Trever Moehrig S TCU58. Chazz Surratt LB NC87. Darius Stills DT WV94. Joe Tryon Edge Wash101. Andre Cisco S Syr119. Shaka Toney Edge PSU152. Kary Vincent,Jr. CB LSU (gotta have one LSU guy every year-a steal at 152)Plus Denver's 4th in 2022 in a trade down to Surratt.Cisco was a steal at 101 if you look at drafttek who had him #29 overall right along with Moehrig at #28. -
Glad you understand they are void of weapons
Obviously. Just stating he is no longer on their team because he was cut and is currently on the Chiefs
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Went back to FanSpeak again using DraftTek's ranking with confirmation of other sources which often had my picks ranked much higher. Obviously it's early for the ranking folks, too, plus they are dealing with cancelled games and even players who have opted out of the season.
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