Week 13: CLE @ TN... "there's thirteen hundred and fifty two Guitar pickers in Nashville"
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(Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?
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Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron , and it was Vrabel's Dad Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there. I never had him as a teacher nor did I play football....so to be honest, I never really interacted with the man. He later went on to be a school principal at like Buckeye HS perhaps.
If you had wanted to share a classroom desk with Mike Vrabel you would have had to have attended Walsh Jesuit HS in Cuyahoga Falls.
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But for Logan Ryan...M.Butler/Vaccaro/Byard/Adore Jackson
I saw on one of Tour's injury listings that Adoree Jackson is listed as out for this game.
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You guys wrote some excellent stuff. Like I was saying, if we were healthier, I'd really like our chances. But our secondary is absolutely buggered and losing freaking Harrison on the first damn play against Jax was almost unbelievable. Other than Myles, that was the ONE injury on defense we just couldn't have. Last game Mike Glennon looked like effing Joe Montana and we just about lost that game. I told everyone for days on end how much I HATE playing Jacksonville, and for whatever reason, it's always a shit fest.
Obviously Myles Garrett will help, but our secondary really had trouble stopping Mike Glennon. Tavierre Thomas will be in the game, and that means he will have 20 tackles because he gives a 9 yard cushion. Tannehill is REALLY having a fine year and looks like what Baker WILL look like in the future. Tannehill is an excellent example of what a QB can be when he's in the right system and playing for a good system. He's great off play-action, and he's got more wheels than Baker so he'll burn you on those boots if you don't get there. Our offenses are very similar, but unfortunately they have their studs at WR, and ours blew out his knee.
I honestly don't think we're going to force a punt. We've seen it before, and we can see it again. We need to win by sustaining long drives ending with 7, getting at least one turnover, hopefully 2, and somehow get them to settle for a FG or two. Additionally, the Titans are a proud and chesty team. Perhaps our best chance at a turnover could be when they go for it on 4th down. They feel like they can get a yard every time. Our defense has been atrocious on 4th down, but if we somehow make a play or two on 4th, we can alter the game. I'm telling you, there will be a 4th or two, and someone needs to make a play.
The Titans aren't a stellar defensive team right now. They're physical and good, but not great. This will be a similar defense to the Colts and I wouldn't expect our running game to be successful at FIRST. The Titans are abysmal on 3rd down to the tune of 53%. That's awful. We can sustain drives, and that will literally be the key to winning the game. We play defense by having their offense on the sideline.
We need to come out razor sharp on offense. No drops, penalties, or any bullcrap. We get down 14 points early and that will be that. We get a lead and make them throw late...well...Mr.Garrett cometh. Unfortunately, we're too banged up for me to predict a victory.
Titans - 33
Browns - 19
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You guys wrote some excellent stuff. Like I was saying, if we were healthier, I'd really like our chances. But our secondary is absolutely buggered and losing freaking Harrison on the first damn play against Jax was almost unbelievable. Other than Myles, that was the ONE injury on defense we just couldn't have. Last game Mike Glennon looked like effing Joe Montana and we just about lost that game. I told everyone for days on end how much I HATE playing Jacksonville, and for whatever reason, it's always a shit fest.
Obviously Myles Garrett will help, but our secondary really had trouble stopping Mike Glennon. Tavierre Thomas will be in the game, and that means he will have 20 tackles because he gives a 9 yard cushion. Tannehill is REALLY having a fine year and looks like what Baker WILL look like in the future. Tannehill is an excellent example of what a QB can be when he's in the right system and playing for a good system. He's great off play-action, and he's got more wheels than Baker so he'll burn you on those boots if you don't get there. Our offenses are very similar, but unfortunately they have their studs at WR, and ours blew out his knee.
I honestly don't think we're going to force a punt. We've seen it before, and we can see it again. We need to win by sustaining long drives ending with 7, getting at least one turnover, hopefully 2, and somehow get them to settle for a FG or two. Additionally, the Titans are a proud and chesty team. Perhaps our best chance at a turnover could be when they go for it on 4th down. They feel like they can get a yard every time. Our defense has been atrocious on 4th down, but if we somehow make a play or two on 4th, we can alter the game. I'm telling you, there will be a 4th or two, and someone needs to make a play.
The Titans aren't a stellar defensive team right now. They're physical and good, but not great. This will be a similar defense to the Colts and I wouldn't expect our running game to be successful at FIRST. The Titans are abysmal on 3rd down to the tune of 53%. That's awful. We can sustain drives, and that will literally be the key to winning the game. We play defense by having their offense on the sideline.
We need to come out razor sharp on offense. No drops, penalties, or any bullcrap. We get down 14 points early and that will be that. We get a lead and make them throw late...well...Mr.Garrett cometh. Unfortunately, we're too banged up for me to predict a victory.
Titans - 33
Browns - 19
You guys wrote some excellent stuff. Like I was saying, if we were healthier, I'd really like our chances. But our secondary is absolutely buggered and losing freaking Harrison on the first damn play against Jax was almost unbelievable. Other than Myles, that was the ONE injury on defense we just couldn't have. Last game Mike Glennon looked like effing Joe Montana and we just about lost that game. I told everyone for days on end how much I HATE playing Jacksonville, and for whatever reason, it's always a shit fest.
Obviously Myles Garrett will help, but our secondary really had trouble stopping Mike Glennon. Tavierre Thomas will be in the game, and that means he will have 20 tackles because he gives a 9 yard cushion. Tannehill is REALLY having a fine year and looks like what Baker WILL look like in the future. Tannehill is an excellent example of what a QB can be when he's in the right system and playing for a good system. He's great off play-action, and he's got more wheels than Baker so he'll burn you on those boots if you don't get there. Our offenses are very similar, but unfortunately they have their studs at WR, and ours blew out his knee.
I honestly don't think we're going to force a punt. We've seen it before, and we can see it again. We need to win by sustaining long drives ending with 7, getting at least one turnover, hopefully 2, and somehow get them to settle for a FG or two. Additionally, the Titans are a proud and chesty team. Perhaps our best chance at a turnover could be when they go for it on 4th down. They feel like they can get a yard every time. Our defense has been atrocious on 4th down, but if we somehow make a play or two on 4th, we can alter the game. I'm telling you, there will be a 4th or two, and someone needs to make a play.
The Titans aren't a stellar defensive team right now. They're physical and good, but not great. This will be a similar defense to the Colts and I wouldn't expect our running game to be successful at FIRST. The Titans are abysmal on 3rd down to the tune of 53%. That's awful. We can sustain drives, and that will literally be the key to winning the game. We play defense by having their offense on the sideline.
We need to come out razor sharp on offense. No drops, penalties, or any bullcrap. We get down 14 points early and that will be that. We get a lead and make them throw late...well...Mr.Garrett cometh. Unfortunately, we're too banged up for me to predict a victory.
Titans - 33
Browns - 19
We could use Titan turnovers and penalties in this one. Sort of what we gave them last year.
We need to pressure on obvious pass downs. Plain and Simple the Woods game plan last week was terrible. He decided to blitz four guys all game thinking the extra men would communicate and pick up WRs in zone scheme. On plays where it was man coverage they had crossers 30 yards downfield- that doesn’t happen when the blitz is coming. It didn’t work but he kept going to that well. It got to a point where Adam Archuleta called him out. Basically come on dude change it up. Yeah Mike Glennon leftover turkey eating while he scans the field for wide open men. Can Woods see that Joseph not the best roaming the field in coverage? We know they are blind to Sendejo - who actually made a couple big plays.
You protect this awful secondary the best by limiting the QBs time not dropping a couple more guys back that haven’t found the football all year.
Joe Woods I believe is a good coach I know he’s got the three blind mice as his backers but he can help... scheme...put them in better spots.
Rant over here. the defense has just sucked the joy out of me that I should have with this team.
We aren’t out scoring anyone with this D. You play the game where you limit their opportunities (ball control offense) knowing when they have the ball it’s probably 3 maybe 7 each time.
what I would like to see on offense is our identity even when we are down a score or two. When we have Baker gun slinging the ball 40-45 times we are gonna have turnovers. I said week 1 40/30 run pass ratio. Week 12 I still say 40/30 run pass ratio. If there is 8 mins left and we are down 15- fine empty the backfield and let Baker sling it.
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Rush / G Pass / G Run D / G Pass D / G Browns 161 203 108 247 Titans 158 238 116 269 The tale of the tape shows a pretty even game.
Both teams run the ball real well.
Both have QB's that are asked to manage the game, utilize play action and be safe with the ball such that the running game can eventually gain control of the game.
Both teams have suspect defenses. For us, all of our starting DB's are unavailable as well as our second string safeties.
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Today's practice reports...
Unsurprisingly Ward was again DNP and seems headed to the inactive list.
Good news in that Redwine returned to FP status. Bad news is that Hodge was added to LP list due to a hammie.
On the Titan side...
- One big name was added... AJ Brown DNP due to "Hip".
- Starting LT, Kelly, downgraded to DNP.
- Two other DNP were added due to "Illness". With Wilson added both starting OTs were DNP.
- Simmons upgraded to LP.
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And the updated injury reports...
Basically consistent with our practice report. Note that where there were 4 players listed as "Out", now there is one, Thompson, whose status is manditory under the NFL's Covid protocol.
Some hope for Hodge as he is listed as "Questionable".
And the Titans'...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Weather is looking cold and grey (at least at kickoff), but winds are expected to be light and no rain...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
(Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?
)
Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron , and it was Vrabel's Dad Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there. I never had him as a teacher nor did I play football....so to be honest, I never really interacted with the man. He later went on to be a school principal at like Buckeye HS perhaps.
If you had wanted to share a classroom desk with Mike Vrabel you would have had to have attended Walsh Jesuit HS in Cuyahoga Falls.
Crystal Clear Mountain driving roadie weather in December ?
(Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?
)
Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron , and it was Vrabel's Dad Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there.
HEY Norton!! ya See what happens when we don't Speak of Akron?
... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22062243/cleveland-browns-sign-jamal-davis-to-practice-squad Zips ?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
Really, Hodge??? REALLY!
Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’
Really, Hodge??? REALLY!
Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’
Kids today...Instead try:
Just shut your mouth. Do your job. Point to the score board at the end of the game. Go back to having your face 7" away from your phone every waking minute.
Today's practice reports...
Unsurprisingly ?
Bad news is that Hodge was added to LP list due to a hammie.
riding the back of #95 via Nashville, TN.... 
HaPPy Friday !!
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Really, Hodge??? REALLY!
Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’
Kids today...Instead try:
Just shut your mouth. Do your job. Point to the score board at the end of the game. Go back to having your face 7" away from your phone every waking minute.
Today's practice reports...
Unsurprisingly ?
Bad news is that Hodge was added to LP list due to a hammie.
riding the back of #95 via Nashville, TN.... HaPPy Friday !!
Really, Hodge??? REALLY!
Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’
Lmao. Guess he wasn't around for the ass waxing they gave us last year. Although to be fair, we really beat ourselves badly. Even our 1 td drive to open the game had like 25 penalty yards, lol.
Anyway, this game doesn't excite me. I'll say this....even if we do get our asses kicked, it won't bother me. We're not a complete team yet and frankly we're not supposed to be owning heavy hitters yet. We're also banged up all to hell. I hope we win, but I won't be upset if we don't. But hey....you never know! GO BROWNS!
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Crystal Clear Mountain driving roadie weather in December ?
(Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?
)
Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron , and it was Vrabel's Dad Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there.
HEY Norton!! ya See what happens when we don't Speak of Akron?
... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22062243/cleveland-browns-sign-jamal-davis-to-practice-squad Zips ?
Crystal Clear Mountain driving roadie weather in December ?
HEY Norton!! ya See what happens when we don't Speak of Akron?
... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22062243/cleveland-browns-sign-jamal-davis-to-practice-squad Zips ?
Hopefully he works out
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Final Practice reports...
As expected Ward is out, but late addition Hodge and even later addition Taywan Taylor are as well.
Rest appear to be either healed-up or still simply resting-up...
And Titans report...
- Simmons looks to be on track to be a game-time decision... same for starting OG, Saffold.
- Starting OT Wilson, TE Smith and CB Jackson are all Out.
- Remainder, including Brown, Kelly and Landry are ready to go.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Final Practice reports...
As expected Ward is out, but late addition Hodge and even later addition Taywan Taylor are as well.
Rest appear to be either healed-up or still simply resting-up...
And Titans report...
- Simmons looks to be on track to be a game-time decision... same for starting OG, Saffold.
- Starting OT Wilson, TE Smith and CB Jackson are all Out.
- Remainder, including Brown, Kelly and Landry are ready to go.
Final Practice reports...
And Titans report...
- Simmons looks to be on track to be a game-time decision... same for starting OG, Saffold.
- Starting OT Wilson, TE Smith and CB Jackson are all Out.
- Remainder, including Brown, Kelly and Landry are ready to go.
LT 71 KELLY, DENNIS T/Phi LG 76 SAFFOLD, RODGER U/LAR ? ankle no depth C 60 JONES, BEN U/Hou 62 Brewer, Aaron CF20 RG 64 Davis, Nate 19/3 75 Douglas, Jamil SF18 72 QUESSENBERRY, DAVID SF18 RT 79 Wilson, Isaiah 20/1----WILL BE OUT no depth Practice Squad? bring up to play RT*? Marshall Newhouse ? ? **protected
PS 00 Kizer**, DeShone QB ? 83 66 Kemp, Brandon OT 00 95 Brown, Miles DT PS 16 00 Adams, Paul OT 80 89 57 Ray, Wyatt OB--former Brown PS 52 72 NEWHOUSE**, MARSHALL OT 00 Daniel, Trevor PT 00 59 Skipper**, Tuzar LB We played Marshall Newhouse last season at New England.. started & took all 69 snaps at RT..
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
To me it boils down to protecting Baker. I don't mean in the pocket either - less pass attempts tends to equal more success for this offense including fewer turnovers. So I'd expect to see a similar defensive deployment as we did last year against Tenn.
Delayed 4th and 5th pressures, heavy zone looks, post snap rotations. Nothing mind blowing, but things that Baker has struggled with as far back as his rookie season. If the running game takes over, the boot action works, then that's just great. We can limit our QB's exposure in the passing game and eliminate turnovers while playing keep away.
Magic number is 28 IMHO. If Baker has to throw more than 28 times, I'd be willing to wager we get into trouble.
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To me it boils down to protecting Baker. I don't mean in the pocket either - less pass attempts tends to equal more success for this offense including fewer turnovers. So I'd expect to see a similar defensive deployment as we did last year against Tenn.
Delayed 4th and 5th pressures, heavy zone looks, post snap rotations. Nothing mind blowing, but things that Baker has struggled with as far back as his rookie season. If the running game takes over, the boot action works, then that's just great. We can limit our QB's exposure in the passing game and eliminate turnovers while playing keep away.
Magic number is 28 IMHO. If Baker has to throw more than 28 times, I'd be willing to wager we get into trouble.
To me it boils down to protecting Baker. I don't mean in the pocket either - less pass attempts tends to equal more success for this offense including fewer turnovers. So I'd expect to see a similar defensive deployment as we did last year against Tenn.
Delayed 4th and 5th pressures, heavy zone looks, post snap rotations. Nothing mind blowing, but things that Baker has struggled with as far back as his rookie season. If the running game takes over, the boot action works, then that's just great. We can limit our QB's exposure in the passing game and eliminate turnovers while playing keep away.
Magic number is 28 IMHO. If Baker has to throw more than 28 times, I'd be willing to wager we get into trouble.
I agree with around 28 because that means either our running game is not working or we got so far behind we got desperate.
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Here are picks from one site. 4 of 4 pick the Titans straight up and 2 of 3 pick the Titans giving away 5.5 points.
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Biggest Browns game since 2007.
This game will tell us a lot regarding the 2020 Browns.
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