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Week 13: CLE @ TN... "there's thirteen hundred and fifty two Guitar pickers in Nashville"

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  •   Rush / G Pass / G Run D / G Pass D / G
    Browns 161 203 108 247
    Titans 158 238 116 269

    The tale of the tape shows a pretty even game.

    Both teams run the ball real well. 

    Both have QB's that are asked to manage the game, utilize play action and be safe with the ball such that the running game can eventually gain control of the game.

    Both teams have suspect defenses.  For us, all of our starting DB's are unavailable as well as our second string safeties.

  • Today's practice reports...

    Unsurprisingly Ward was again DNP and seems headed to the inactive list.

    Good news in that Redwine returned to FP status. Bad news is that Hodge was added to LP list due to a hammie.

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    On the Titan side...

    • One big name was added... AJ Brown DNP due to "Hip".
    • Starting LT, Kelly, downgraded to DNP.
    • Two other DNP were added due to "Illness". With Wilson added both starting OTs were DNP.
    • Simmons upgraded to LP.

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  • And the updated injury reports...

    Basically consistent with our practice report. Note that where there were 4 players listed as "Out", now there is one, Thompson, whose status is manditory under the NFL's Covid protocol.

    Some hope for Hodge as he is listed as "Questionable".

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    And the Titans'...

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  • Weather is looking cold and grey (at least at kickoff), but winds are expected to be light and no rain...

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  • (Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?😉) 

    Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron  ,  and it was Vrabel's Dad  Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there.   I never had him as a teacher nor did I play football....so to be honest, I never really interacted with the man.  He later went on to be a school principal at like Buckeye HS perhaps. 

    If you had wanted to share a classroom desk with Mike Vrabel you would have had to have attended Walsh Jesuit HS in Cuyahoga Falls. 

    Crystal Clear Mountain driving roadie weather in December ?

    @the-gipper said:

    (Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?😉) 

    Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron  ,  and it was Vrabel's Dad  Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there.   

    HEY Norton!! ya See what happens when we don't Speak of Akron? 😛... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22062243/cleveland-browns-sign-jamal-davis-to-practice-squad Zips ?

  • Really, Hodge??? REALLY!

    Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/11/browns-khadarel-hodge-i-dont-look-at-the-titans-like-a-super-team-they-can-get-beat-like-anybody-else.html

    @tour2ma said:

    Really, Hodge??? REALLY!

    Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/11/browns-khadarel-hodge-i-dont-look-at-the-titans-like-a-super-team-they-can-get-beat-like-anybody-else.html

    @d-bone said:

    Kids today...Instead try:

    Just shut your mouth. Do your job. Point to the score board at the end of the game. Go back to having your face 7" away from your phone every waking minute. 

    @tour2ma said:

    Today's practice reports...

    Unsurprisingly  ?

     Bad news is that Hodge was added to LP list due to a hammie.

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    1rXY.gif    riding the back of #95 via Nashville, TN.... 2vCR.gif     HaPPy Friday !!   

  • @tour2ma said:

    Really, Hodge??? REALLY!

    Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/11/browns-khadarel-hodge-i-dont-look-at-the-titans-like-a-super-team-they-can-get-beat-like-anybody-else.html

    @d-bone said:

    Kids today...Instead try:

    Just shut your mouth. Do your job. Point to the score board at the end of the game. Go back to having your face 7" away from your phone every waking minute. 

    @tour2ma said:

    Today's practice reports...

    Unsurprisingly  ?

     Bad news is that Hodge was added to LP list due to a hammie.

    image.thumb.png.dd25c9025bf136904844ad473e460db0.png

    1rXY.gif    riding the back of #95 via Nashville, TN.... 2vCR.gif     HaPPy Friday !!   

    @gumby73 said:

    Really, Hodge??? REALLY!

    Browns’ KhaDarel Hodge: ‘I don’t look at the Titans like a super team; they can get beat like anybody else’

    Lmao. Guess he wasn't around for the ass waxing they gave us last year. Although to be fair, we really beat ourselves badly. Even our 1 td drive to open the game had like 25 penalty yards, lol. 

    Anyway, this game doesn't excite me.  I'll say this....even if we do get our asses kicked, it won't bother me. We're not a complete team yet and frankly we're not supposed to be owning heavy hitters yet. We're also banged up all to hell. I hope we win, but I won't be upset if we don't. But hey....you never know! GO BROWNS! 

  • Crystal Clear Mountain driving roadie weather in December ?

    @the-gipper said:

    (Bonus question? Did Gipper & Vrabel have classroom desk together in this Akron classroom?😉) 

    Well....it was Norton (which included Westside Steve in my class) not Akron  ,  and it was Vrabel's Dad  Chuck who was a teacher/football coach there.   

    HEY Norton!! ya See what happens when we don't Speak of Akron? 😛... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22062243/cleveland-browns-sign-jamal-davis-to-practice-squad Zips ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Crystal Clear Mountain driving roadie weather in December ?

    HEY Norton!! ya See what happens when we don't Speak of Akron? 😛... https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22062243/cleveland-browns-sign-jamal-davis-to-practice-squad Zips ?

    Hopefully he works out 

  • Final Practice reports...

    As expected Ward is out, but late addition Hodge and even later addition Taywan Taylor are as well.

    Rest appear to be either healed-up or still simply resting-up...

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    And Titans report...

    • Simmons looks to be on track to be a game-time decision... same for starting OG, Saffold.
    • Starting OT Wilson, TE Smith and CB Jackson are all Out.
    • Remainder, including Brown, Kelly and Landry are ready to go.

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  • ... and the confirming Practice reports...

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  • Final Practice reports...

    As expected Ward is out, but late addition Hodge and even later addition Taywan Taylor are as well.

    Rest appear to be either healed-up or still simply resting-up...

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    And Titans report...

    • Simmons looks to be on track to be a game-time decision... same for starting OG, Saffold.
    • Starting OT Wilson, TE Smith and CB Jackson are all Out.
    • Remainder, including Brown, Kelly and Landry are ready to go.

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    @tour2ma said:

    Final Practice reports...

    And Titans report...

    • Simmons looks to be on track to be a game-time decision... same for starting OG, Saffold.
    • Starting OT Wilson, TE Smith and CB Jackson are all Out.
    • Remainder, including Brown, Kelly and Landry are ready to go.

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    LT 71 KELLY, DENNIS T/Phi                
    LG 76 SAFFOLD, RODGER U/LAR  ? ankle   no depth            
    C 60 JONES, BEN U/Hou 62 Brewer, Aaron CF20            
    RG 64 Davis, Nate 19/3 75 Douglas, Jamil SF18 72 QUESSENBERRY, DAVID SF18        
    RT 79 Wilson, Isaiah 20/1----WILL BE OUT   no depth  

    Practice Squad? bring up to play RT*? Marshall Newhouse ? ? **protected 

    PS 00 Kizer**, DeShone QB  ? 83   66 Kemp, Brandon OT 00   95 Brown, Miles DT
    PS 16   00 Adams, Paul OT 80   89   57 Ray, Wyatt OB--former Brown
    PS 52   72 NEWHOUSE**, MARSHALL OT 00 Daniel, Trevor PT 00   59 Skipper**, Tuzar LB

    We played Marshall Newhouse last season at New England.. started & took all 69 snaps at RT..

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  • To me it boils down to protecting Baker. I don't mean in the pocket either - less pass attempts tends to equal more success for this offense including fewer turnovers.    So I'd expect to see a similar defensive deployment as we did last year against Tenn. 

    Delayed 4th and 5th pressures, heavy zone looks, post snap rotations. Nothing mind blowing, but things that Baker has struggled with as far back as his rookie season.   If the running game takes over, the boot action works, then that's just great.  We can limit our QB's exposure in the passing game and eliminate turnovers while playing keep away.  

    Magic number is 28 IMHO.  If Baker has to throw more than 28 times, I'd be willing to wager we get into trouble.

  • To me it boils down to protecting Baker. I don't mean in the pocket either - less pass attempts tends to equal more success for this offense including fewer turnovers.    So I'd expect to see a similar defensive deployment as we did last year against Tenn. 

    Delayed 4th and 5th pressures, heavy zone looks, post snap rotations. Nothing mind blowing, but things that Baker has struggled with as far back as his rookie season.   If the running game takes over, the boot action works, then that's just great.  We can limit our QB's exposure in the passing game and eliminate turnovers while playing keep away.  

    Magic number is 28 IMHO.  If Baker has to throw more than 28 times, I'd be willing to wager we get into trouble.

    @tiamat63 said:

    To me it boils down to protecting Baker. I don't mean in the pocket either - less pass attempts tends to equal more success for this offense including fewer turnovers.    So I'd expect to see a similar defensive deployment as we did last year against Tenn. 

    Delayed 4th and 5th pressures, heavy zone looks, post snap rotations. Nothing mind blowing, but things that Baker has struggled with as far back as his rookie season.   If the running game takes over, the boot action works, then that's just great.  We can limit our QB's exposure in the passing game and eliminate turnovers while playing keep away.  

    Magic number is 28 IMHO.  If Baker has to throw more than 28 times, I'd be willing to wager we get into trouble.

    I agree with around 28 because that means either our running game is not working or we got so far behind we got desperate.

  • Here are picks from one site. 4 of 4 pick the Titans straight up and 2 of 3 pick the Titans giving away 5.5 points.

    https://www.thephinsider.com/2020/12/5/22155802/nfl-week-13-expert-picks-straight-up-winners-and-against-the-spread-from-the-phinsider

  • Biggest Browns game since 2007. 

    This game will tell us a lot regarding the 2020 Browns. 

  • Biggest Browns game since 2007. 

    This game will tell us a lot regarding the 2020 Browns. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Biggest Browns game since 2007. 

    This game will tell us a lot regarding the 2020 Browns. 

    I am not sure about that.  A few years back we were 7-4 and had some big games with playoff spots on the line.  Probably more important.  Then the powers that be insisted on putting JFF at the control, and the fuckers went and lost  5 in a row.   Whether the Browns win or lose this game will not seal, nor kill our playoff chances.

    The big game in 2007 was the one in which the Browns cacked up a furball against a mediocre  Cincinnati team in the next to last game. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Biggest Browns game since 2007. 

    This game will tell us a lot regarding the 2020 Browns. 

    I am not sure about that.  A few years back we were 7-4 and had some big games with playoff spots on the line.  Probably more important.  Then the powers that be insisted on putting JFF at the control, and the fuckers went and lost  5 in a row.   Whether the Browns win or lose this game will not seal, nor kill our playoff chances.

    The big game in 2007 was the one in which the Browns cacked up a furball against a mediocre  Cincinnati team in the next to last game. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I am not sure about that.  A few years back we were 7-4 and had some big games with playoff spots on the line.  Probably more important.  Then the powers that be insisted on putting JFF at the control, and the fuckers went and lost  5 in a row.   Whether the Browns win or lose this game will not seal, nor kill our playoff chances.

    The big game in 2007 was the one in which the Browns cacked up a furball against a mediocre  Cincinnati team in the next to last game. 

    Ooh, that is a good point, the Browns were in first place in November back in 2014. 

    I wonder who on here were big Johnny Football fans? 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I am not sure about that.  A few years back we were 7-4 and had some big games with playoff spots on the line.  Probably more important.  Then the powers that be insisted on putting JFF at the control, and the fuckers went and lost  5 in a row.   Whether the Browns win or lose this game will not seal, nor kill our playoff chances.

    The big game in 2007 was the one in which the Browns cacked up a furball against a mediocre  Cincinnati team in the next to last game. 

    Ooh, that is a good point, the Browns were in first place in November back in 2014. 

    I wonder who on here were big Johnny Football fans? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Ooh, that is a good point, the Browns were in first place in November back in 2014. 

    I wonder who on here were big Johnny Football fans? 

    Who??

  • Biggest Browns game since 2007. 

    This game will tell us a lot regarding the 2020 Browns. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Biggest Browns game since 2007. 

    To me, it's Next week's game.

    But a win now relieves some of the pressure next week.