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  • @kvoethe said:

    Cant run the ball anymore since munch left.

    It's randy our oc. It has shit to do with munchak leaving. Decastro is also markedly worse im the run game to the point that I think he's still hurt. It is what it is, they played terribly and lost. Randy also can't be calling stretch plays with a north/south banger in Connor. (Same with snell who played today)

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    @vagitron said:

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    Actually it's a good conservative call if you have a lead and a good Defense.

    You failed to punch it in from the 1-yd line. The one pass was errant, not a drop. Three runs went for nada.

    I'd say you missing Munchak is plausible.

  • Vag called Washington a good team. ?

    @typicalbrowns50 said:

    Vag called Washington a good team. ?

    He said the same of the Eagles... and his team only came close to losing to them. 🙂

  • @vagitron said:

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    Actually it's a good conservative call if you have a lead and a good Defense.

    You failed to punch it in from the 1-yd line. The one pass was errant, not a drop. Three runs went for nada.

    I'd say you missing Munchak is plausible.

    @tour2ma said:

    Actually it's a good conservative call if you have a lead and a good Defense.

    You failed to punch it in from the 1-yd line. The one pass was errant, not a drop. Three runs went for nada.

    I'd say you missing Munchak is plausible.

    It was a terrible call. 

  • @typicalbrowns50 said:

    Vag called Washington a good team. ?

    He said the same of the Eagles... and his team only came close to losing to them. 🙂

    @tour2ma said:

    He said the same of the Eagles... and his team only came close to losing to them. 🙂

    Are you suffering from short term memory loss? You all won 22-17 against the eagles and the WFT is not a bad team. Very underrated defense. I guess you all forgot the last time you had 9 wins Derek Anderson was at qb. You got your ass banged the first meeting too. Pump the brakes or you are going to look stupid. 

  • @vagitron said:

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    Actually it's a good conservative call if you have a lead and a good Defense.

    You failed to punch it in from the 1-yd line. The one pass was errant, not a drop. Three runs went for nada.

    I'd say you missing Munchak is plausible.

    @tour2ma said:

    Actually it's a good conservative call if you have a lead and a good Defense.

    You failed to punch it in from the 1-yd line. The one pass was errant, not a drop. Three runs went for nada.

    I'd say you missing Munchak is plausible.

    And Mr. Stats you may want to check how many drops they have over the last two games. You trying to join gipper on the high porch?

  • @tour2ma said:

    He said the same of the Eagles... and his team only came close to losing to them. 🙂

    Are you suffering from short term memory loss? You all won 22-17 against the eagles and the WFT is not a bad team. Very underrated defense. I guess you all forgot the last time you had 9 wins Derek Anderson was at qb. You got your ass banged the first meeting too. Pump the brakes or you are going to look stupid. 

    @vagitron said:

    Are you suffering from short term memory loss? You all won 22-17 against the eagles and the WFT is not a bad team. Very underrated defense. I guess you all forgot the last time you had 9 wins Derek Anderson was at qb. You got your ass banged the first meeting too. Pump the brakes or you are going to look stupid. 

    I'm pretty sure you have stupid all locked up here...

    And speaking of here... WTF are you doing here?

    Your team loses it's first game of the season in an upset and your first thought is, "I gotta get to the Browns Board"?

  • I think Vagitron is just pissed because drugs won the war on drugs.

  • As I had hoped.  For the last game of the season, the Browns will not be facing a team trying to solidify a perfect season.  Now, if a loss does not change their playoff position, they will rest key players.

  • Washington is a good team on a win steak of their own. Our offense is dropping the ball like crazy which is correctabke. They aren't going to just start dropping games. You need to lay off the bottle. 

    @vagitron said:

    Washington is a good team on a win steak of their own. Our offense is dropping the ball like crazy which is correctabke. They aren't going to just start dropping games. You need to lay off the bottle. 

    Face it, the Ravens are a shell of themselves...and you nearly got picked off by them....and the WTFs  were a 4-7 team, and yinz lost at home to them. Don't be so sure they may not start dropping games, because nearly every team you play hereafter are better than those two teams. 

  • @vagitron said:

    Washington is a good team on a win steak of their own. Our offense is dropping the ball like crazy which is correctable. They aren't going to just start dropping games. You need to lay off the bottle. 

    I only watched the first half. Will definitely watch the rest of the game now. 🙂  Steelers defense is still decent- even minus Dupree. Only a FG in the second half for your offense... 

    Don't make excuses- you lost. Hmmm.... Though that loss may cost you the #1 seed in the playoffs... 

    @hoorta said:

    I only watched the first half. Will definitely watch the rest of the game now. 🙂  Steelers defense is still decent- even minus Dupree. Only a FG in the second half for your offense... 

    Don't make excuses- you lost. Hmmm.... Though that loss may cost you the #1 seed in the playoffs... 

    Not so far, they still hold the top spot. 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Cant run the ball anymore since munch left.

    It's randy our oc. It has shit to do with munchak leaving. Decastro is also markedly worse im the run game to the point that I think he's still hurt. It is what it is, they played terribly and lost. Randy also can't be calling stretch plays with a north/south banger in Connor. (Same with snell who played today)

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's randy our oc. It has shit to do with munchak leaving. Decastro is also markedly worse im the run game to the point that I think he's still hurt. It is what it is, they played terribly and lost. Randy also can't be calling stretch plays with a north/south banger in Connor. (Same with snell who played today)

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    Well, it is either a draw, or one of those 3 yard dinks that he calls up. 

  • @kvoethe said:

    They call Ebron "Droptimus Prime"

    It's not just ebron. The team needs to refocus, might be a blessing in disguise to lose this game. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's not just ebron. The team needs to refocus, might be a blessing in disguise to lose this game. 

    So, if it is just drops, why is that? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Actually it's a good conservative call if you have a lead and a good Defense.

    You failed to punch it in from the 1-yd line. The one pass was errant, not a drop. Three runs went for nada.

    I'd say you missing Munchak is plausible.

    And Mr. Stats you may want to check how many drops they have over the last two games. You trying to join gipper on the high porch?

    @vagitron said:

    And Mr. Stats you may want to check how many drops they have over the last two games. You trying to join gipper on the high porch?

    There is another way to characterize that situation:  they just suck at catching the ball. 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Cant run the ball anymore since munch left.

    It's randy our oc. It has shit to do with munchak leaving. Decastro is also markedly worse im the run game to the point that I think he's still hurt. It is what it is, they played terribly and lost. Randy also can't be calling stretch plays with a north/south banger in Connor. (Same with snell who played today)

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's randy our oc. It has shit to do with munchak leaving. Decastro is also markedly worse im the run game to the point that I think he's still hurt. It is what it is, they played terribly and lost. Randy also can't be calling stretch plays with a north/south banger in Connor. (Same with snell who played today)

    Randy called a draw on 3 and 10 today on our side of the field. It's inexcusable. 

    I saw that interesting stat during the game Ben's completion% on passes of 20+ yards is pretty lousy. Blame that on drops- I know you can... 🙂   

  • Im so glad to see the Steelers lose finally. And their up coming games are very much possible losses to Indy, and Buffalo. And that would give us a chance to possibly win the divison if we continue to win and we of course beat them in the last game of the season.

  • Final thoughts...

    1. I wonder if the Steelers got caught looking ahead a lil... they face BUF this week.
    2. Saw a couple ESPN discussions with Ryan Clark (a pretty good analyst IMO) and he said the issue with the Steelers is "they can't run the ball"... so there's that.
    3. If you throw 53 times in a game, it's not rocket science to figure there are gonna be some drops.
    4. Some of the drops were on less catchable throws than others. Top example had to be what was described as a back-shoulder(?) throw to McFadden on 4th and 1. If that was Ben's intent, then it was a poor throw too high and wide; if not, then it was a bad adjustment by McFadden. But how reasonable is it to expect a WR-quality adjustment by a "3rd-string RB with 5 catches in his career"? Personally I think Ben was throwing over McF's outside shoulder requiring him to turn outside, not around... and that's an adjustment that takes a lot of experience.
  • Final thoughts...

    1. I wonder if the Steelers got caught looking ahead a lil... they face BUF this week.
    2. Saw a couple ESPN discussions with Ryan Clark (a pretty good analyst IMO) and he said the issue with the Steelers is "they can't run the ball"... so there's that.
    3. If you throw 53 times in a game, it's not rocket science to figure there are gonna be some drops.
    4. Some of the drops were on less catchable throws than others. Top example had to be what was described as a back-shoulder(?) throw to McFadden on 4th and 1. If that was Ben's intent, then it was a poor throw too high and wide; if not, then it was a bad adjustment by McFadden. But how reasonable is it to expect a WR-quality adjustment by a "3rd-string RB with 5 catches in his career"? Personally I think Ben was throwing over McF's outside shoulder requiring him to turn outside, not around... and that's an adjustment that takes a lot of experience.

    @tour2ma said:

    Final thoughts...

    1. I wonder if the Steelers got caught looking ahead a lil... they face BUF this week.

    Man the Bills look good. All phases. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Final thoughts...

    1. I wonder if the Steelers got caught looking ahead a lil... they face BUF this week.

    Man the Bills look good. All phases. 

    @d-bone said:

    Man the Bills look good. All phases. 

    Except their ground game is weak as is run D.... that's their Achilles heel or heels. Mostert averaged 4.7 on 9 carries and Wilson 6.7 on 7. Game situation took them out of the game. For Bills Singletary averaged 3.4 and Moss 3.0.

    Makes for an interesting match-up with PTG this week. PTG game should turn on who can effectively pressure opposing QB. Tougher job for PTG as they have to rush under control or Allen will take off, but it's a job they have to do. Give Allen time and he's plenty good enough now to gouge a D, but under pressure he will revert to his WTF form.

  • One more final thought: Steelers' pass D really seemed to suffer after Haden left game with a concussion.

    Not sure why unless DC had 2ndary shading towards his replacement as WSH really went to work on its right-side short and left-side middling to deep.