**** Ravens at Browns Gameday thread

calfoxwc

oh, btw - here's a thought. I thought, if it was me, I would tell our kicker to squib kick it well down the field, so they end up trying to return it from the ten yard line, hopefully letting it bounce off a few ratbird players...... I could be wrong about that, since the Browns didn't do it. Yep. left them too much time on the clock.

dammit. dammit.

lol

nickers

@bjh2130 said:

We need help on defense yes but we don't need a kicker. Parkey has been phenomenal up until tonight. Everyone wants to complain about the 4 points but if he makes the pat or fg the game is played completely different like we don't go for two when down 8 etc. Parkey is far from our biggest problem or even in the top 5 of needs.

I wouldnt call Parkey phenomenal... Id call him serviceable at best!

calfoxwc

@axe said:

Cal, THIS is NOT a playoff D ?

Not Woods' fault at all though. Not one bit. When they have matched up talent wise, they have played terrific.

Outside of that, yep, not good enough to playoff time. It's the talent, you betcha.

hx214

Always one play away....

We need new linebackers and plenty of them. Probably need to draft another freaking CB if Greedy and Ward can't stay on the field for these kinda games.

Good thing is.... that short list makes them a really tough team. It's nice to have a short list instead of the 10 foot long one we usually have.

calfoxwc

@axe said:

The damn near pick 6 didn't help matters either.

When Baker made that mistake, I said "he just had a brain fart, crap"

Throwing a bit further to the sideline would have saved him, but it is what it is.

Axe

Kicker left 4.. Mayfield gave away 7.. There's the difference in the game

mjp28

ESPN is calling this a Classic Game,. it was.

Neo

The running game WAS working, so why did they shy away from it? Seemed like they went away from it early. I was really surprised how much they were throwing it considering how good their secondary is and the fact our receivers weren't really getting separation. I never liked the flow of the game, thought it favored the dirty pigeons.

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

Tough loss. Good game. We unfortunately gave them too much time at the end. Solid effort from the offense. Defense and special teams need to tighten up, regardless of Ward being out..

Cbus Brownie

Team played well tonight, we’ve got a good football team. First time I’ve said that in a long, long fricken time.

Ward, Harrison, Williams are all sorely missed. We just don’t have the back 7. Sandejo needs to go. Our O can score on anyone.

Neo

@hx214 said:

Always one play away....

We need new linebackers and plenty of them. Probably need to draft another freaking CB if Greedy and Ward can't stay on the field for these kinda games.

Good thing is.... that short list makes them a really tough team. It's nice to have a short list instead of the 10 foot long one we usually have.

I don't think anyone wants to say this because he is easily the best coach we've had in decades, but Stefanski deserves some heat for this game too. I thought he made some good calls throughout the game, but the overall gameplan was terrible. You need to keep their offense off the field as much as possible, throwing early into their good secondary plays right into their hands. We don't really have a playmaker at WR other than Landry, so I guess now you see the value of Beckham. Baker is not a quarterback that is going to carve up a defense. He has made some strides but he is still not there yet. That near pick 6 was atrocious.

Tour2ma

Only thing better would have been a W...

Our guys left it all on the field tonite.

I'm proud of them.

Neo

I think it's obvious that we need Beckham back. Beckham is our #1, Higgins can be or #2 and Landry in the slot because he has the knack for getting open and he catches everything.

gumby73

It still just blows my mind with the tough luck of this game.. McSorley blows his leg up just at the sight of Garrett ready to pounce on him at 2:02 left... Did anybody really think Lamar was coming back into this game? the Next play was a 4th & 5 ?

TypicalBrowns50

Baker gave them six at the end. We just aren’t there yet. But we are getting there! I’m certainly excited to see the Browns improvement this year

hoorta

lesson- beat Giants, beat Jets... 11 wins is good enough.

AP1

@hoorta said:

lesson- beat Giants, beat Jets... 11 wins is good enough.

The most important Browns' games two decades.

jiggins7919

I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years.

I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat.

Canton Mike

@jiggins7919 said:

I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years.

I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat.

I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

Mike

Canton Dawg

@canton-mike said:

I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

Mike

Yep...and the best part is this is a young team.