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  • Tough loss. Good game. We unfortunately gave them too much time at the end. Solid effort from the offense. Defense and special teams need to tighten up, regardless of Ward being out.. 

  • Team played well tonight, we’ve got a good football team. First time I’ve said that in a long, long fricken time. 
     

    Ward, Harrison, Williams are all sorely missed. We just don’t have the back 7. Sandejo needs to go. Our O can score on anyone. 

  • Always one play away....

    We need new linebackers and plenty of them. Probably need to draft another freaking CB if Greedy and Ward can't stay on the field for these kinda games.

    Good thing is.... that short list makes them a really tough team. It's nice to have a short list instead of the 10 foot long one we usually have.

    @hx214 said:

    Always one play away....

    We need new linebackers and plenty of them. Probably need to draft another freaking CB if Greedy and Ward can't stay on the field for these kinda games.

    Good thing is.... that short list makes them a really tough team. It's nice to have a short list instead of the 10 foot long one we usually have.

    I don't think anyone wants to say this because he is easily the best coach we've had in decades, but Stefanski deserves some heat for this game too. I thought he made some good calls throughout the game, but the overall gameplan was terrible. You need to keep their offense off the field as much as possible, throwing early into their good secondary plays right into their hands. We don't really have a playmaker at WR other than Landry, so I guess now you see the value of Beckham. Baker is not a quarterback that is going to carve up a defense. He has made some strides but he is still not there yet. That near pick 6 was atrocious. 

  • Only thing better would have been a W...

    Our guys left it all on the field tonite.

    I'm proud of them.

  • I think it's obvious that we need Beckham back. Beckham is our #1, Higgins can be or #2 and Landry in the slot because he has the knack for getting open and he catches everything.

  • It still just blows my mind with the tough luck of this game.. McSorley blows his leg up just at the sight of Garrett ready to pounce on him at 2:02 left... Did anybody really think Lamar was coming back into this game? the Next play was a 4th & 5 ?

  • Baker gave them six at the end. We just aren’t there yet. But we are getting there! I’m certainly excited to see the Browns improvement this year 

  • lesson- beat Giants, beat Jets... 11 wins is good enough. 

  • lesson- beat Giants, beat Jets... 11 wins is good enough. 

    @hoorta said:

    lesson- beat Giants, beat Jets... 11 wins is good enough. 

    The most important Browns' games two decades.

  • I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years. 

    I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat. 

  • I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years. 

    I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years. 

    I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat. 

    I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

    Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

    Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

    Mike

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years. 

    I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat. 

    I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

    Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

    Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

    Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

    Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    Yep...and the best part is this is a young team.

  • I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years. 

    I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

     I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of

    I get that frustration. 

    My hope is guys they drafted actually play (Greedy, Ward, Delpit) and they draft some LBs that can make an impact. 

    Sub par LB play might be killing us more than the 3rd & 4th string secondary.

    Think about it- 9-4 with a leaky D. Couldn't fix the whole roster in one off season, but so much closer to contending.

  • looks from the comments like they lost

    on to the next opponent

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I just can't give the I'm proud of them rhetoric. It looked so easy and looked like we never really had a chance. I'm explicitly tired of not having a defense that I can be proud of, and it just feels like we'll always be who we are, and that's the team that gives up a 3rd and 10 to the backup QB when the game is on the line, or the team that leaves people open running across the field, or the team that see decides to miss kicks in the biggest effing game in literally 20 years. 

    I'll get to where I'm proud of them later, but right now I'm not. They choked yet again to a team they almost never beat. 

    I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

    Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

    Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I AM proud of them. This is only year 1 of this regime & I believe we are going in the right direction. What has been accomplished within 1 season is amazing. Yes, the "D" needs help & good health, but we are closer than many think.

    Even in losing, our Browns never quit, showed they can compete with anyone, earned a ton of respect, & I'm betting the Ravens wouldn't want to meet us again this season.

    Season's not over...GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    I  think that I heard the BROWNS defense is all under 30 year old players the only team in the league like that.  A win would have been great and was so close.

    Would be nice to have a dependable clutch kicker could have used one last night.  Baltimore had one who hit a 55 yard kicker to win the game.  Just sayin'.

  • Denzel Ward saved two games for us this season.

    We needed him last night.

    How would you like to be Joe Woods?  Playing with a secondary totally void of starting players....

  • I hope this game really makes the team bear down and puts that hunger into overdrive. A wake up call of sorts. 

  • N Neo

    @hx214 said:

    Always one play away....

    We need new linebackers and plenty of them. Probably need to draft another freaking CB if Greedy and Ward can't stay on the field for these kinda games.

    Good thing is.... that short list makes them a really tough team. It's nice to have a short list instead of the 10 foot long one we usually have.

    I don't think anyone wants to say this because he is easily the best coach we've had in decades, but Stefanski deserves some heat for this game too. I thought he made some good calls throughout the game, but the overall gameplan was terrible. You need to keep their offense off the field as much as possible, throwing early into their good secondary plays right into their hands. We don't really have a playmaker at WR other than Landry, so I guess now you see the value of Beckham. Baker is not a quarterback that is going to carve up a defense. He has made some strides but he is still not there yet. That near pick 6 was atrocious. 

    @neo said:

    I don't think anyone wants to say this because he is easily the best coach we've had in decades, but Stefanski deserves some heat for this game too. I thought he made some good calls throughout the game, but the overall gameplan was terrible. You need to keep their offense off the field as much as possible, throwing early into their good secondary plays right into their hands. We don't really have a playmaker at WR other than Landry, so I guess now you see the value of Beckham. Baker is not a quarterback that is going to carve up a defense. He has made some strides but he is still not there yet. That near pick 6 was atrocious. 

    we cannot stop superman.....end of story....i agree, we cannot get into shootouts because overall our d is not good enough but lamar was the one who got us into a shootout type of game.....our d is the issue though....especially the secondary.....the cowboys game, big lead....our d almost gives it up....titans game...same issue....it looks like rught now, we have an elway issue....could not stop him and we cannot stop lamar....not good....and don't think we have it easy the last 3 games....we could easily lose 2 out of 3 and be gasping for help from other teams to make it into the playoffs....not nearly over yet...

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    We need a new D coordinator.  I was excited about the hire but just had all the wrong moves this year sorry

    Woods isn't the problem. We just don't have the personnel on the defense to make a deep run in the playoffs. The defense just doesn't have enough gas in the talent tank to be able to play a full 60 minutes against great teams.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Woods isn't the problem. We just don't have the personnel on the defense to make a deep run in the playoffs. The defense just doesn't have enough gas in the talent tank to be able to play a full 60 minutes against great teams.

    who says we are going to the playoffs......my guess is we are going to be in that shitass sitiation where we need help from other teams....our d really sucks the big one...i could see daniel jones running amuk for the giants against us.....its like we need 8 minute drives the whole game to keep the other teams offense off the field....even the crappy teams....

  • @neo said:

    I don't think anyone wants to say this because he is easily the best coach we've had in decades, but Stefanski deserves some heat for this game too. I thought he made some good calls throughout the game, but the overall gameplan was terrible. You need to keep their offense off the field as much as possible, throwing early into their good secondary plays right into their hands. We don't really have a playmaker at WR other than Landry, so I guess now you see the value of Beckham. Baker is not a quarterback that is going to carve up a defense. He has made some strides but he is still not there yet. That near pick 6 was atrocious. 

    we cannot stop superman.....end of story....i agree, we cannot get into shootouts because overall our d is not good enough but lamar was the one who got us into a shootout type of game.....our d is the issue though....especially the secondary.....the cowboys game, big lead....our d almost gives it up....titans game...same issue....it looks like rught now, we have an elway issue....could not stop him and we cannot stop lamar....not good....and don't think we have it easy the last 3 games....we could easily lose 2 out of 3 and be gasping for help from other teams to make it into the playoffs....not nearly over yet...

    @browns52 said:

    we cannot stop superman.....end of story....i agree, we cannot get into shootouts because overall our d is not good enough but lamar was the one who got us into a shootout type of game.....our d is the issue though....especially the secondary.....the cowboys game, big lead....our d almost gives it up....titans game...same issue....it looks like rught now, we have an elway issue....could not stop him and we cannot stop lamar....not good....and don't think we have it easy the last 3 games....we could easily lose 2 out of 3 and be gasping for help from other teams to make it into the playoffs....not nearly over yet...

    Do you really think the Browns will lose to Colt McCoy w/Giants and the winless Jets?

    I don’t see either of those 2 things happening