The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread
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Seriously, do you watch Ohio State games? You know, they did play just last year, and it took a last minute TD by Clemson to win.
With a team that included half dozen future NFL picks not currently featured on the 2020 football squad. Clemson is head and shoulders above the Buckeyes right now barring a miracle turnaround during bowl prep.
They'll be lucky to keep it within 14 points this year.
If Trey Sermon plays as a man possessed, they have a shot to keep it respectable and possibly pull it off.
With a team that included half dozen future NFL picks not currently featured on the 2020 football squad. Clemson is head and shoulders above the Buckeyes right now barring a miracle turnaround during bowl prep.
And how many players from last year's Clemson team went to the NFL? Probably about the same number as from OSU.
If Trey Sermon plays as a man possessed, they have a shot to keep it respectable and possibly pull it off.
That, and the defense. defense has to be stellar.
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OSU has had ZERO flow to this season. 6 games. Week on...week off. They may not compete well because of that.
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OSU has every bit of talent that Clemson has...
Fields. No comment.
Day 1 or 2 next season Garrett Wilson, day 2 guy Chris Olave, two years away but on track...Njigba, Fleming.
Their entire Oline will be drafted when they graduate. Wyatt Davis could be a first day pick. Myers is probably a day 2 pick.
Trey Sermon early day 3.
Jeremy Ruckert. TE day 3.
Haskell Garrett is making a big move up draft boards. Tommy togiai another mover. The DEs talented all have another year of eligibility.
P. Werner is getting love as coverage backer. Baron Browning LB early day 3 guy.
Shaun Wade. No comment.
There are more...the season and interruptions and changes with defensive staff have taken a bit of toll on the Bucks...but position for position this one of the most talented rosters in the country.
OSU has had ZERO flow to this season. 6 games. Week on...week off. They may very well not compete well because of that.
BUT
OSU has every bit of talent that Clemson has...
Fields. No comment.
Day 1 or 2 next season Garrett Wilson, day 2 guy Chris Olave, two years away but on track...Njigba, Fleming.
Their entire Oline will be drafted when they graduate. Wyatt Davis could be a first day pick. Myers is probably a day 2 pick.
Trey Sermon early day 3.
Jeremy Ruckert. TE day 3.
Haskell Garrett is making a big move up draft boards. Tommy togiai another mover. The DEs talented all have another year of eligibility.
P. Werner is getting love as coverage backer. Baron Browning LB early day 3 guy.
Shaun Wade. No comment.
There are more...the season and interruptions and changes with defensive staff have taken a bit of toll on the Bucks...but position for position this one of the most talented rosters in the country.
Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
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OSU has had ZERO flow to this season. 6 games. Week on...week off. They may very well not compete well because of that.
BUT
OSU has every bit of talent that Clemson has...
Fields. No comment.
Day 1 or 2 next season Garrett Wilson, day 2 guy Chris Olave, two years away but on track...Njigba, Fleming.
Their entire Oline will be drafted when they graduate. Wyatt Davis could be a first day pick. Myers is probably a day 2 pick.
Trey Sermon early day 3.
Jeremy Ruckert. TE day 3.
Haskell Garrett is making a big move up draft boards. Tommy togiai another mover. The DEs talented all have another year of eligibility.
P. Werner is getting love as coverage backer. Baron Browning LB early day 3 guy.
Shaun Wade. No comment.
There are more...the season and interruptions and changes with defensive staff have taken a bit of toll on the Bucks...but position for position this one of the most talented rosters in the country.
Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
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Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
Sure
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OSU has had ZERO flow to this season. 6 games. Week on...week off. They may very well not compete well because of that.
BUT
OSU has every bit of talent that Clemson has...
Fields. No comment.
Day 1 or 2 next season Garrett Wilson, day 2 guy Chris Olave, two years away but on track...Njigba, Fleming.
Their entire Oline will be drafted when they graduate. Wyatt Davis could be a first day pick. Myers is probably a day 2 pick.
Trey Sermon early day 3.
Jeremy Ruckert. TE day 3.
Haskell Garrett is making a big move up draft boards. Tommy togiai another mover. The DEs talented all have another year of eligibility.
P. Werner is getting love as coverage backer. Baron Browning LB early day 3 guy.
Shaun Wade. No comment.
There are more...the season and interruptions and changes with defensive staff have taken a bit of toll on the Bucks...but position for position this one of the most talented rosters in the country.
Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
Fields nor Wade are going top 10 as of yesterday.
Point is, the Bucks best offensive weapon last year was Dobbins. And they leaned on him heavily when things got whacky. Clemson leans on their QB when things go sideways. As of typing this, the Buckeyes can't say the same.
One of those players is in the NFL. I'll give you a hint, it isn't either QB.
Does tOSU have a shot? Yes. But they're going to need a heavy dose of Sermon and Teague, Day finally drawing up some designed runs for Fields beyond that split option, and a defense that finally plays a complete game against an offense with a pulse.
No small task.
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Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
Fields nor Wade are going top 10 as of yesterday.
Point is, the Bucks best offensive weapon last year was Dobbins. And they leaned on him heavily when things got whacky. Clemson leans on their QB when things go sideways. As of typing this, the Buckeyes can't say the same.
One of those players is in the NFL. I'll give you a hint, it isn't either QB.
Does tOSU have a shot? Yes. But they're going to need a heavy dose of Sermon and Teague, Day finally drawing up some designed runs for Fields beyond that split option, and a defense that finally plays a complete game against an offense with a pulse.
No small task.
Fields nor Wade are going top 10 as of yesterday.
I would suggest that nearly every single professional draft prognosticator would disagree with you.
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Suggest away, since there's no way to verify. But chances are I'm right otherwise I tend to shut my mouth. If JF shows out against Clemson like he did against NU and the draft board slide talk begins - then I'll accept your nod as being better than some professional draft 'prognosticator'. Keep in mind a good deal of mocks have Fields as high as #2.
Should be an interesting couple weeks.
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Not sure what you mean by the "No comments" re Fields and Wade.
I have a comment: each of them could be taken in the Top Ten.
The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
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The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
Most posters on here know these players and know they are first round talents.
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The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
DBs set where the called Defense dictates.
Also... I did not realize the game is still going on.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The player and their draft prospects speak for themselves.
I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
You'll notice the OSU DB play has fallen off when Hafley departed.
I'm not as bullish on Wade as I am Fields. Wade is a talented DB that needs a little time. Top 10? No. But when the Browns pick? I don't hate the idea at the moment.
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Yeah I figured Wade was going in the 1st but not Top 10
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In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
DBs set where the called Defense dictates.
Also... I did not realize the game is still going on.
DBs set where the called Defense dictates.
Also... I did not realize the game is still going on.
Yeah, that's a joke.
I'm more and more convinced Gipper has hijacked Tour's account.
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Yeah, that's a joke.
Pretty sure I knew that...
... which should tell you it's not Gipper.
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Suggest away, since there's no way to verify. But chances are I'm right otherwise I tend to shut my mouth. If JF shows out against Clemson like he did against NU and the draft board slide talk begins - then I'll accept your nod as being better than some professional draft 'prognosticator'. Keep in mind a good deal of mocks have Fields as high as #2.
Should be an interesting couple weeks.
Suggest away, since there's no way to verify. But chances are I'm right otherwise I tend to shut my mouth. If JF shows out against Clemson like he did against NU and the draft board slide talk begins - then I'll accept your nod as being better than some professional draft 'prognosticator'. Keep in mind a good deal of mocks have Fields as high as #2.
Should be an interesting couple weeks.
There certainly is a way to verify if the prognosticators have them ranked in Top 10. Just read their articles. As you say, many have him going #2.
I am not saying now what teams will do in May, or whatever. I am saying how people...pros at that job...view them now.
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I was curious to why you put "No Comment" by those two.
Because both did not come close to playing like the top prospects they were going into the season.
In the time I wrote this, Northwestern just got three first downs on Wade by running out routes on him, because he's apparently petrified of getting beat deep and plays 10 yards off receivers.
I'm already on record numerous times about how I feel about Fields.
You'll notice the OSU DB play has fallen off when Hafley departed.
I'm not as bullish on Wade as I am Fields. Wade is a talented DB that needs a little time. Top 10? No. But when the Browns pick? I don't hate the idea at the moment.
You'll notice the OSU DB play has fallen off when Hafley departed.
I'm not as bullish on Wade as I am Fields. Wade is a talented DB that needs a little time. Top 10? No. But when the Browns pick? I don't hate the idea at the moment.
Hafley was and still is a great coach but there is no Chase Young type disruptor hurrying the clock of a QB. And Guys like Sevyn Banks and Cam Brown aren’t as athletically gifted as Okudah. Arnette makes your case for Hafley being missed. Arnette played himself into a first round pick and I think Hafley had a lot to do with that but it took time and a lot of reps. This current OSU DB group has not been afforded that same opportunity.
I tend to agree to on Wade. He’s no Okaduh that’s for sure. Not a pure cover guy, he’s not very fluid in that department. But he’s a great tackler and he’s an instinctive football player. Pretty versatile- he played in the slot last year ventured out this year. He’s not a No. 1 WR eraser. I think he’s a 15-20 type selection.
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We need premium draft capital spent on LBs, Interior Dlineman and a DE. Perhaps even a CB.
We have a 1,2,3,3,4,4...5 of those 6 picks need investment at these three spots. We are at point where need trumps all.
Im willing to give Delpit a shot (he will essentially be a rookie coming off an Achilles not a good combo from instant contribution) and I’d couple that with an actual starter via free agency. So we roll with Harrison, Delpit and free agent starter.
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Suggest away, since there's no way to verify. But chances are I'm right otherwise I tend to shut my mouth. If JF shows out against Clemson like he did against NU and the draft board slide talk begins - then I'll accept your nod as being better than some professional draft 'prognosticator'. Keep in mind a good deal of mocks have Fields as high as #2.
Should be an interesting couple weeks.
There certainly is a way to verify if the prognosticators have them ranked in Top 10. Just read their articles. As you say, many have him going #2.
I am not saying now what teams will do in May, or whatever. I am saying how people...pros at that job...view them now.
There certainly is a way to verify if the prognosticators have them ranked in Top 10. Just read their articles. As you say, many have him going #2.
I am not saying now what teams will do in May, or whatever. I am saying how people...pros at that job...view them now.
Tell you what, you can go ahead and get to work on linking all the articles from these experts since you're the one making the claim. Make sure those articles are dated on or after the 19th.
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For me what will be interesting is what players actually take advantage of the extra Covid year of eligibility in order to gain a higher draft status in 2022.
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