2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.
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Game 2 - 2019 v Old Dominion. Nothing about an opponent that you should* blow out excites me, but there were a couple things I picked up from this game.
1) Farley exclusively plays LCB, doesn't matter if it's field or boundary. He's left side all time and it was the same in the game against BC. Is by defensive design? Is it by kinetic preference? I'm not sure. I've met corners that HATE one given side of the field because, for whatever reason, their footwork just doesn't "feel" the same. Sounds stupid, but believe me it's a thing.
2) Despite off coverage not being a strong suite and actually drawing a DPI in this game, Farley shows surprisingly good hip fluidity for a corner that looks like he has a future beating up receivers at the line. Go to 11:55 in that clip. You don't see a back-peddle because he's expecting the route to break in. It's either incredible film study and a DB with supreme confidence in what he feels, or he likes to gamble. His first step is his back right foot to open his hips and drive underneath the receiver. Had this post been more flat as opposed to skinny/sharp, that could have been a pick. But what you will see here is the natural use of the upfield hand to go after the pass, eyes on the ball and the trail hand on the receivers hip. Then getting up under the route. Honestly this contact was really made by sitting on the receivers hip and the overthrow selling it. If that right hand was a little lighter, this would likely be an outstanding demonstration of a no-call.
3) He's willing to get involved in run support from the perimeter. Not great at it, and doesn't always get off blocks well... but I don't see him actively avoiding contact either.
18:47 - good vertical despite almost being boxed out. Good fight getting elevation and attacking the ball as opposed to waiting to make a play on the receivers hands. Realized he wasn't in a position for the pick so played the safer option of killing the ball.
Caleb's footwork, while not really polished... is pretty damn smooth. There is no panic in his steps and his hand work to attack the ball in the air is instinctive as his fighting. He's an athlete who just "looks" to be a very natural corner. I don't have snap counts in front of me, but Old Dominion didn't show anywhere near the amount of 22 and 21 personnel that BC did. So Farley got his first extended action at CB on the year. I haven't really seen the Va Tech staff play any bump or allow him to get physical at the line. Which is a shame because he appears to be a CB on the taller side (I'd say 6-6'1? Maybe some change?) and has a longer arm reach. So I'd like to see more in the coming film hopefully with a coaching staff that realized what they have on their roster. Farley isn't a "raw" DB, but there is a very high ceiling here he can be coached too if he so chooses to put in the work.
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Game 2 - 2019 v Old Dominion. Nothing about an opponent that you should* blow out excites me, but there were a couple things I picked up from this game.
1) Farley exclusively plays LCB, doesn't matter if it's field or boundary. He's left side all time and it was the same in the game against BC. Is by defensive design? Is it by kinetic preference? I'm not sure. I've met corners that HATE one given side of the field because, for whatever reason, their footwork just doesn't "feel" the same. Sounds stupid, but believe me it's a thing.
2) Despite off coverage not being a strong suite and actually drawing a DPI in this game, Farley shows surprisingly good hip fluidity for a corner that looks like he has a future beating up receivers at the line. Go to 11:55 in that clip. You don't see a back-peddle because he's expecting the route to break in. It's either incredible film study and a DB with supreme confidence in what he feels, or he likes to gamble. His first step is his back right foot to open his hips and drive underneath the receiver. Had this post been more flat as opposed to skinny/sharp, that could have been a pick. But what you will see here is the natural use of the upfield hand to go after the pass, eyes on the ball and the trail hand on the receivers hip. Then getting up under the route. Honestly this contact was really made by sitting on the receivers hip and the overthrow selling it. If that right hand was a little lighter, this would likely be an outstanding demonstration of a no-call.
3) He's willing to get involved in run support from the perimeter. Not great at it, and doesn't always get off blocks well... but I don't see him actively avoiding contact either.
18:47 - good vertical despite almost being boxed out. Good fight getting elevation and attacking the ball as opposed to waiting to make a play on the receivers hands. Realized he wasn't in a position for the pick so played the safer option of killing the ball.
Caleb's footwork, while not really polished... is pretty damn smooth. There is no panic in his steps and his hand work to attack the ball in the air is instinctive as his fighting. He's an athlete who just "looks" to be a very natural corner. I don't have snap counts in front of me, but Old Dominion didn't show anywhere near the amount of 22 and 21 personnel that BC did. So Farley got his first extended action at CB on the year. I haven't really seen the Va Tech staff play any bump or allow him to get physical at the line. Which is a shame because he appears to be a CB on the taller side (I'd say 6-6'1? Maybe some change?) and has a longer arm reach. So I'd like to see more in the coming film hopefully with a coaching staff that realized what they have on their roster. Farley isn't a "raw" DB, but there is a very high ceiling here he can be coached too if he so chooses to put in the work.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/
https://www.drafttek.com/2021-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-CBs-2021-NFL-Draft.asp
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The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/
https://www.drafttek.com/2021-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-CBs-2021-NFL-Draft.asp
The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
by the end of the week, somebody here will have OBJ as a trade piece to get up there ?... ?.. Farley or Parsons?
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The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/
https://www.drafttek.com/2021-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-CBs-2021-NFL-Draft.asp
The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
Probably, but so hard to predict right now. Lots of time for prospects to rise or fall...
... or simply get pushed down.
There's only so many players that can be stuffed into the top 25 of a draft... somewhere between 24 and 26 is my guess.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
by the end of the week, somebody here will have OBJ as a trade piece to get up there ?... ?.. Farley or Parsons?
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As said, 2020 has been a whacky year. As I understand it, this 2019 tape will be the only thing scouts have to go off to gauge his CB abilities because Farley opted out 2020. Since we've never dealt with full season opt-outs, it remains to be seen how NFL teams will respond perceiving value. So I leave nothing to chance.
As for Parsons, with the little I've seen of him, I wouldn't waste his talents at a Mike spot. He's a gifted athlete and good pass rusher. He can be your will who also happens to be good at edge pressures. Like how Von Miller was used early on, except more of a traditional backer role than evolution into a pass rusher.
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I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
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I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
You'd be surprised, with a little bit of savvy, just how much you can find on YT.
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I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
You'd be surprised, with a little bit of savvy, just how much you can find on YT.
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Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
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Late round flyer on LB Justin Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size [6'1 235#] than he'll get. Talented vs both pass and run. Playing 6th college year on the elusive medical redshirt.. but he's healthy now and his talent is far above where he'll be drafted.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
I'll get around to them eventually.
Late round flyer on Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size than he'll get
Hilliard is an interesting one. Mostly because, as you said, his athletic ability. If there's one late round player from tOSU I was intending to take a longer look at, it's going to be Haskell Garrett.
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Take both. People talk about football as going to war.. boy took a bullet through the face and used it for motivation. Couldn't get more Ohio than turning Berea into WHAC #2.
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Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
Chazz Surratt LB UNC
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
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I figure to draft a WR later than round two...
what about:
Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC
Seth Williams, WR, Auburn
Merlin Robertson, ILB Arizona State
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By my eye...Haskell Garrett has played really well this year and the kid took a bullet to the face this offseason.
I think he may have played himself into Day 2 of the draft.
Edit: PFF scored Garrett as the second highest DT this season.
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Chazz Surratt LB UNC
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
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For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
There is, physically speaking, literally nothing about this kid that immediately would indicate that. He's 6'1ish 220. That isn't 3pt edge rusher size barring some spot duty.
You line him up on the edge routinely and I'm going to scheme his way because he doesn't have the size and length to hold the point. He isn't TJ and he sure as hell ain't Dupree. He's not even Alex Highsmith who, if you look back, I had some praise for on this board and the Steelers took about where I said he'd fall.
Just skimming through the Syracuse and BC games...? Will backer. See, pursue, tackle and track. The Syracuse game looks like it's the 1st of the season and his eyes are routinely caught starring into the backfield action and not on assignment.
If this kid is being pimped as a high day 2 pick, then either this tape goes into warp speed in the next few games or he's media hype. Then again, this plays into the conversation I had with Gip before I sent him to the ignore list - football minds that don't get paid for clicks won't have their due diligence filter down to the media for a few more weeks at the earliest.
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