2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.
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The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/
https://www.drafttek.com/2021-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-CBs-2021-NFL-Draft.asp
The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
Probably, but so hard to predict right now. Lots of time for prospects to rise or fall...
... or simply get pushed down.
There's only so many players that can be stuffed into the top 25 of a draft... somewhere between 24 and 26 is my guess.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The problem with Farley is he will be long gone by our pick.
by the end of the week, somebody here will have OBJ as a trade piece to get up there ?... ?.. Farley or Parsons?
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As said, 2020 has been a whacky year. As I understand it, this 2019 tape will be the only thing scouts have to go off to gauge his CB abilities because Farley opted out 2020. Since we've never dealt with full season opt-outs, it remains to be seen how NFL teams will respond perceiving value. So I leave nothing to chance.
As for Parsons, with the little I've seen of him, I wouldn't waste his talents at a Mike spot. He's a gifted athlete and good pass rusher. He can be your will who also happens to be good at edge pressures. Like how Von Miller was used early on, except more of a traditional backer role than evolution into a pass rusher.
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I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
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I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
You'd be surprised, with a little bit of savvy, just how much you can find on YT.
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I was looking forward to seeing how ILB Chazz Surratt of U. N.C faired against the running attack of Texas A&M which is one of the best in college football. He is likely a late 2nd rounder in an area of need, but he has opted out of the Orange Bowl. I really don't like relying on highlights, but would rather see an entire game. Guess I will have to find a complete one on youtube to see what he looks like for a full game.
You'd be surprised, with a little bit of savvy, just how much you can find on YT.
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Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
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Late round flyer on LB Justin Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size [6'1 235#] than he'll get. Talented vs both pass and run. Playing 6th college year on the elusive medical redshirt.. but he's healthy now and his talent is far above where he'll be drafted.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
I'll get around to them eventually.
Late round flyer on Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size than he'll get
Hilliard is an interesting one. Mostly because, as you said, his athletic ability. If there's one late round player from tOSU I was intending to take a longer look at, it's going to be Haskell Garrett.
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Take both. People talk about football as going to war.. boy took a bullet through the face and used it for motivation. Couldn't get more Ohio than turning Berea into WHAC #2.
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Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
Chazz Surratt LB UNC
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
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I figure to draft a WR later than round two...
what about:
Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC
Seth Williams, WR, Auburn
Merlin Robertson, ILB Arizona State
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By my eye...Haskell Garrett has played really well this year and the kid took a bullet to the face this offseason.
I think he may have played himself into Day 2 of the draft.
Edit: PFF scored Garrett as the second highest DT this season.
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Chazz Surratt LB UNC
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
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For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
He’s the kind of 3-4 OLB that the Steelers will plug in and he will kill us for a decade. Relentless pass rush type that also has the athletic ability to drop in coverage too.
I don’t know where he fits in our scheme. I followed him last year and he was just learning the position- I think he came to UNC as a QB
There is, physically speaking, literally nothing about this kid that immediately would indicate that. He's 6'1ish 220. That isn't 3pt edge rusher size barring some spot duty.
You line him up on the edge routinely and I'm going to scheme his way because he doesn't have the size and length to hold the point. He isn't TJ and he sure as hell ain't Dupree. He's not even Alex Highsmith who, if you look back, I had some praise for on this board and the Steelers took about where I said he'd fall.
Just skimming through the Syracuse and BC games...? Will backer. See, pursue, tackle and track. The Syracuse game looks like it's the 1st of the season and his eyes are routinely caught starring into the backfield action and not on assignment.
If this kid is being pimped as a high day 2 pick, then either this tape goes into warp speed in the next few games or he's media hype. Then again, this plays into the conversation I had with Gip before I sent him to the ignore list - football minds that don't get paid for clicks won't have their due diligence filter down to the media for a few more weeks at the earliest.
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Chazz Surratt LB UNC
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
I've seen him listed as 6'3" 230 Lbs and as 6'2" 225 lbs. Until we see the Combine we would be just guessing.
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Chazz Surratt is 6’2’’ 6’3’’ depending on the source. He’s got the steeleresque pass rush motor.
As you pointed out seems a little rough around the edges I believe he spent his first year at QB...it is no wonder. Seems like a high ceiling guy when he learns the nuances of the position. He’s been highly productive this year top 10 tackler in the ACC
His brother is pretty good too
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For whatever reason I dialed him up, having never seen him before - but both you and AG mentioning him within a couple posts of one another.
Uhh... How big is this kid? Looks like Mack Brown never really let that 2000's Texas defense mindset go when Gene Chizik was calling the shots. I remember those linebackers being small because Chizzy liked his dline huge and backers being able to fly around. I bet money Surratt isn't a biscuit over 220lbs.
I've seen him listed as 6'3" 230 Lbs and as 6'2" 225 lbs. Until we see the Combine we would be just guessing.
I've seen him listed as 6'3" 230 Lbs and as 6'2" 225 lbs. Until we see the Combine we would be just guessing.
6'1 5/8 220. Just took 3 different media listings and averaged the numbers out.
Chazz Surratt is 6’2’’ 6’3’’ depending on the source. He’s got the steeleresque pass rush motor.
As you pointed out seems a little rough around the edges I believe he spent his first year at QB...it is no wonder. Seems like a high ceiling guy when he learns the nuances of the position. He’s been highly productive this year top 10 tackler in the ACC
His brother is pretty good too
So far the UNC defense plays a lot of under/odd fronts and do a damn fine job clogging interior gaps. In short, he's a linebacker that can move but would have to be protected because of his size. Think - Roquan Smith.
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Late round flyer on LB Justin Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size [6'1 235#] than he'll get. Talented vs both pass and run. Playing 6th college year on the elusive medical redshirt.. but he's healthy now and his talent is far above where he'll be drafted.
Late round flyer on LB Justin Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size [6'1 235#] than he'll get. Talented vs both pass and run. Playing 6th college year on the elusive medical redshirt.. but he's healthy now and his talent is far above where he'll be drafted.
That was an impressive interception he had in the endzone vs Northwestern. Showed off his athleticism
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Are you taking requests??? if you are...
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre DameChazz Surratt LB UNC
Jaylen Twyman DT Pitt
I'll get around to them eventually.
Late round flyer on Hilliard from OSU -- he's a 5-star recruit who deserves more national pub for athleticism at his size than he'll get
Hilliard is an interesting one. Mostly because, as you said, his athletic ability. If there's one late round player from tOSU I was intending to take a longer look at, it's going to be Haskell Garrett.
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