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  • Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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    The OL has played well.  Beyond expectations.  But all of a sudden, with the loss of super-sub Chris Hubbard, and Wyatt Teller missing time, it's a bit thin.  Rookie center Nick Harris had to play the whole game at RG when Hubbard went down.  Aside from him we had Kendall Lamm.....and a practice squad player.

    We need Teller to come back so that we can have the starters in place....and they've gotta stay healthy.  Harris has got to be interior super-sub...and Lamm, Tackle super-sub (and goal line WR super-sub).

    Our offense thrives as a balanced attack.  We have good enough skill position players to attack through the air & ground.  It's the OL that opens the holes for the runners and gives receivers time to execute their routes.  The OLine is no small reason that we're 10-4.  (and credit the FO for finding a way to keep Hubbard here, for bringing in Conklin, Wills and Nick Harris - who did a good job filling the void at RG against a tough NY Giant defensive line...the strength of their team).

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      Teller will be back for playoffs.. and not until then, high ankle sprains are rough

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        Teller will be back for playoffs.. and not until then, high ankle sprains are rough

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @unsympathetic said:

        Teller will be back for playoffs.. and not until then, high ankle sprains are rough

        Any official word? 

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          OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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          If it's a high ankle, it takes time to come back.  So we've got Nick Harris at RG and a practice squad player to back him up.  

          And if Tretter gets dinged Harris has to move to center.  We do have a center on the PS.

          It's a game of attrition...

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            Any former offensive lineman on this board???  It seems like RB, WR, CB types would have the hardest time with High Ankle sprains. Quick burst positions.  But it’s not a fun injury overall for anyone.  

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              The OL has played well.  Beyond expectations.  But all of a sudden, with the loss of super-sub Chris Hubbard, and Wyatt Teller missing time, it's a bit thin.  Rookie center Nick Harris had to play the whole game at RG when Hubbard went down.  Aside from him we had Kendall Lamm.....and a practice squad player.

              We need Teller to come back so that we can have the starters in place....and they've gotta stay healthy.  Harris has got to be interior super-sub...and Lamm, Tackle super-sub (and goal line WR super-sub).

              Our offense thrives as a balanced attack.  We have good enough skill position players to attack through the air & ground.  It's the OL that opens the holes for the runners and gives receivers time to execute their routes.  The OLine is no small reason that we're 10-4.  (and credit the FO for finding a way to keep Hubbard here, for bringing in Conklin, Wills and Nick Harris - who did a good job filling the void at RG against a tough NY Giant defensive line...the strength of their team).

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              @orion said:

              The OLine is no small reason that we're 10-4.  (and credit the FO for finding a way to keep Hubbard here, for bringing in Conklin, Wills and Nick Harris

              Seconded... but don't forget OL Coach extraordinaire, Bill Callahan. Great "get" by Stef...

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                Any former offensive lineman on this board???  It seems like RB, WR, CB types would have the hardest time with High Ankle sprains. Quick burst positions.  But it’s not a fun injury overall for anyone.  

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                @sdbacker80 said:

                Any former offensive lineman on this board?

                Guilty... former OG here.

                Last play of the last hard practice before the last gamse Sr. year of HS I was pulling right when I heard "FUMBLE". I stopped and barely had time to look down and see the ball between my feet before a DT  dove for it and took out my right ankle.

                Not of the high-ankle variety as far as I know, but still messed it up for weeks.

                It's no fun doing Sr. tackle on crutches...

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                  @unsympathetic said:

                  Teller will be back for playoffs.. and not until then, high ankle sprains are rough

                  Any official word? 

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Any official word? 

                  Good as we're likely to get

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                    harris looked better than hubbard  last sunday the only reason hubbard is still on the team is he took a pay cut  look for him to be gone next year

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                      jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                      Teller is unofficially out from what I heard, and I wouldn't expect any miracles. It's such a bummer because Teller is literally the straw that stirs the drink. We knew we wouldn't be able to run last game, but we can't expect to pass our way through every game, either. Nick filled in admirably for Hubbs, but he wasn't honestly THAT good, especially in run blocking. I fear we're in for another passing extravaganza. 

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                        @sdbacker80 said:

                        Any former offensive lineman on this board?

                        Guilty... former OG here.

                        Last play of the last hard practice before the last gamse Sr. year of HS I was pulling right when I heard "FUMBLE". I stopped and barely had time to look down and see the ball between my feet before a DT  dove for it and took out my right ankle.

                        Not of the high-ankle variety as far as I know, but still messed it up for weeks.

                        It's no fun doing Sr. tackle on crutches...

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Guilty... former OG here.

                        Last play of the last hard practice before the last gamse Sr. year of HS I was pulling right when I heard "FUMBLE". I stopped and barely had time to look down and see the ball between my feet before a DT  dove for it and took out my right ankle.

                        Not of the high-ankle variety as far as I know, but still messed it up for weeks.

                        It's no fun doing Sr. tackle on crutches...

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                          harris looked better than hubbard  last sunday the only reason hubbard is still on the team is he took a pay cut  look for him to be gone next year

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @atom said:

                          harris looked better than hubbard  last sunday the only reason hubbard is still on the team is he took a pay cut  look for him to be gone next year

                          Hubbard has filled in at RT, RG and LT at times this season, and has done well when called on.

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                            @atom said:

                            harris looked better than hubbard  last sunday the only reason hubbard is still on the team is he took a pay cut  look for him to be gone next year

                            Hubbard has filled in at RT, RG and LT at times this season, and has done well when called on.

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Hubbard has filled in at RT, RG and LT at times this season, and has done well when called on.

                            he's done o.k Harris as far as i saw played very well and on the cheap Bye bye hubbard unless he takes another pay cut

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              Hubbard has filled in at RT, RG and LT at times this season, and has done well when called on.

                              he's done o.k Harris as far as i saw played very well and on the cheap Bye bye hubbard unless he takes another pay cut

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                              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                              @atom said:

                              he's done o.k Harris as far as i saw played very well and on the cheap Bye bye hubbard unless he takes another pay cut

                              Harris can play center and guard, while Hubbard can play tackle and guard. 

                              They aren't competing for the same roster spot. 

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                                @atom said:

                                he's done o.k Harris as far as i saw played very well and on the cheap Bye bye hubbard unless he takes another pay cut

                                Harris can play center and guard, while Hubbard can play tackle and guard. 

                                They aren't competing for the same roster spot. 

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Harris can play center and guard, while Hubbard can play tackle and guard. 

                                They aren't competing for the same roster spot. 

                                it will come down to money we can draft a back up next year

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                                  Teller is unofficially out from what I heard, and I wouldn't expect any miracles. It's such a bummer because Teller is literally the straw that stirs the drink. We knew we wouldn't be able to run last game, but we can't expect to pass our way through every game, either. Nick filled in admirably for Hubbs, but he wasn't honestly THAT good, especially in run blocking. I fear we're in for another passing extravaganza. 

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                                  @jiggins7919 said:

                                  Teller is unofficially out from what I heard, and I wouldn't expect any miracles. It's such a bummer because Teller is literally the straw that stirs the drink. We knew we wouldn't be able to run last game, but we can't expect to pass our way through every game, either. Nick filled in admirably for Hubbs, but he wasn't honestly THAT good, especially in run blocking. I fear we're in for another passing extravaganza. 

                                  from what i saw he played well filling in and we should be fine running his way 

                                  side note : how often has he played with the starting line up ? and you are giving him a bad grade for rush blocking ?

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                                    Hubbard was set to make base salaries of $6.15 million in 2020, $6.65 million in 2021 and $7.15 in 2022. Instead, he’s now under contract for two years with a base salary of $2.5 million in 2020, including a $1 million signing bonus, and $1 million guaranteed in 2020.

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                                      harris looked better than hubbard  last sunday the only reason hubbard is still on the team is he took a pay cut  look for him to be gone next year

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                                      OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                      @atom said:

                                      the only reason hubbard is still on the team is he took a pay cut 

                                      I agree...but will add that they saw value in him because he can play so many OL positions.  He's also a good guy.  (I know, that and a quarter gets you a phone call)

                                      Next year is next year.  We might still need him.  And as you pointed out, he's not costing much.

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                                        @sdbacker80 said:

                                        Any former offensive lineman on this board?

                                        Guilty... former OG here.

                                        Last play of the last hard practice before the last gamse Sr. year of HS I was pulling right when I heard "FUMBLE". I stopped and barely had time to look down and see the ball between my feet before a DT  dove for it and took out my right ankle.

                                        Not of the high-ankle variety as far as I know, but still messed it up for weeks.

                                        It's no fun doing Sr. tackle on crutches...

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                                        OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        "FUMBLE". I stopped and barely had time to look down and see the ball between my feet before a DT  dove for it and took out my right ankle.

                                        Me, it was on the basketball floor.  Literally, I was down, flat on the floor and another player dove at my legs.  Ankle got it.

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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Guilty... former OG here.

                                          Last play of the last hard practice before the last gamse Sr. year of HS I was pulling right when I heard "FUMBLE". I stopped and barely had time to look down and see the ball between my feet before a DT  dove for it and took out my right ankle.

                                          Not of the high-ankle variety as far as I know, but still messed it up for weeks.

                                          It's no fun doing Sr. tackle on crutches...

                                          Did you know Grant Overbaugh?

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          Did you know Grant Overbaugh?

                                          Not a name I've thought of in a few decades, but sure rings a bell... IIRC correctly he was a year ahead of me, and he and Ken Kubit(sp?) were our starting DTs my Jr. year.

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