STEELER WEEK..... v2.0 ..... and this one is in 2021!
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Thank you for looking that up...
I think there is still remnants of the rivalry. I think Ben certainly enjoys beating us. I think they (Tomlin, Front Office) prefer us being down and making a playoff spot doesn’t fall in line with that...but I think they actually want to play us more this year than say the Ravens.I think they are worried too if Mason starts there is jawing, maybe suspension type altercations and you can’t have that the week before the playoffs. In that case, I’d probably play Hobbs instead of Mason.
First, you're welcome...
The only reason I see PTG playing all their starters is to keep their momentum going. After three losses and and a bad looking 1st-half yesterday they finally clicked in the 2nd half. I think this brings up a hybrid approach ala the 2nd or 3rd Preseason game where starters start, but then sit as soon as they have gotten work in and look good.
Rivalry impact? Minimal to none. As our frequent visitor from Steelerdom reminds us we've been so noncompetitive for so long that PTG fans have lost interest in our "rivalry". To the extent one exists it is in the minds of Browns fans and as we've repeatedly seen here the intensity on our side is highly variable. As for PTG ownership I can't see any view other than the more rivalries, intense rivalries, the better. Doesn't mean they'll roll over for us, but also doesn't mean they'll work to keep us "down".
The only reason I see PTG playing all their starters is to keep their momentum going. After three losses and and a bad looking 1st-half yesterday they finally clicked in the 2nd half. I think this brings up a hybrid approach ala the 2nd or 3rd Preseason game where starters start, but then sit as soon as they have gotten work in and look good.
My gut says Ben, JuJu and others won't play, but the Browns had better prepare for all of them to be playing for 4 full quarters.
Either way, it's going to be fun..... unless the entire oline and dline are having some weird fat dude tub party.
Then it will be a lot less fun.
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How many have come off covid list?
Any yet?
How many have come off covid list?
Any yet?
I think they all will on Thursday pending any setbacks.
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@the-gipper said:
You probably fall for all the fads, pet rocks, cabbage patch dolls, the Macarena etc. and you are oh so limited on your perspectives that maybe you are a day trader .
The Browns/Steelers is the most deep seated rivalry in the AFCN.
The Ravens/Steelers rivalry has been the "hot" rivalry by default in this division only because the Browns...and to some extent the Bengals have been out to lunch for so long that they have ceded all competiveness in this division to those two teams.
Nevertheless, the Browns Steelers rivalry IS the most historic, traditional rivalry in this division. It just needs/needed a spark to come back to life. Last year was a start of the refueling process. This game here: it could bring things all back.
Starting the last season the Browns actually won a playoff game, 1994, the Browns have a record of 6-39-1 vs the Steelers.
You sound like a fucking delusional idiot screaming at a random tree.
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@the-gipper said:
You probably fall for all the fads, pet rocks, cabbage patch dolls, the Macarena etc. and you are oh so limited on your perspectives that maybe you are a day trader .
The Browns/Steelers is the most deep seated rivalry in the AFCN.
The Ravens/Steelers rivalry has been the "hot" rivalry by default in this division only because the Browns...and to some extent the Bengals have been out to lunch for so long that they have ceded all competiveness in this division to those two teams.
Nevertheless, the Browns Steelers rivalry IS the most historic, traditional rivalry in this division. It just needs/needed a spark to come back to life. Last year was a start of the refueling process. This game here: it could bring things all back.
Starting the last season the Browns actually won a playoff game, 1994, the Browns have a record of 6-39-1 vs the Steelers.
You sound like a fucking delusional idiot screaming at a random tree.
Starting the last season the Browns actually won a playoff game, 1994, the Browns have a record of 6-39-1 vs the Steelers.
You sound like a fucking delusional idiot screaming at a random tree.
Yeah- the Browns- Steelers used to be a great rivalry a long time ago- if you like living on past glory. It's not going to be a great one again until we (the Browns) start regularly beating the Steelers in games that matter. Like knocking them out of the playoffs, or beating them in a playoff game.
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@the-gipper said:
You probably fall for all the fads, pet rocks, cabbage patch dolls, the Macarena etc. and you are oh so limited on your perspectives that maybe you are a day trader .
The Browns/Steelers is the most deep seated rivalry in the AFCN.
The Ravens/Steelers rivalry has been the "hot" rivalry by default in this division only because the Browns...and to some extent the Bengals have been out to lunch for so long that they have ceded all competiveness in this division to those two teams.
Nevertheless, the Browns Steelers rivalry IS the most historic, traditional rivalry in this division. It just needs/needed a spark to come back to life. Last year was a start of the refueling process. This game here: it could bring things all back.
Starting the last season the Browns actually won a playoff game, 1994, the Browns have a record of 6-39-1 vs the Steelers.
You sound like a fucking delusional idiot screaming at a random tree.
Starting the last season the Browns actually won a playoff game, 1994, the Browns have a record of 6-39-1 vs the Steelers.
You sound like a fucking delusional idiot screaming at a random tree.
I literally always expect to get obliterated by the Steelers every time we play against Big Ben. We might have a chance against Mason Rudolph, but I don't like the odds against their starters. Even when the Bengals beat them out was pretty crazy. Finley played out of his mind and was hitting incredible passes in between multiple defenders. It wasn't like the Steelers were terrible or anything.
Could we beat their starters? Yeah, we could. The biggest issue is the pass rush, and Watt LIVES in our backfield. We have a smart coach, our QB is pissed off, and our team is extremely pissed off. We might have what it takes...I just wouldn't bet on it. But damn...I want this one so badly.
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Starting the last season the Browns actually won a playoff game, 1994, the Browns have a record of 6-39-1 vs the Steelers.
You sound like a fucking delusional idiot screaming at a random tree.
I literally always expect to get obliterated by the Steelers every time we play against Big Ben. We might have a chance against Mason Rudolph, but I don't like the odds against their starters. Even when the Bengals beat them out was pretty crazy. Finley played out of his mind and was hitting incredible passes in between multiple defenders. It wasn't like the Steelers were terrible or anything.
Could we beat their starters? Yeah, we could. The biggest issue is the pass rush, and Watt LIVES in our backfield. We have a smart coach, our QB is pissed off, and our team is extremely pissed off. We might have what it takes...I just wouldn't bet on it. But damn...I want this one so badly.
I literally always expect to get obliterated by the Steelers every time we play against Big Ben. We might have a chance against Mason Rudolph, but I don't like the odds against their starters. Even when the Bengals beat them out was pretty crazy. Finley played out of his mind and was hitting incredible passes in between multiple defenders. It wasn't like the Steelers were terrible or anything.
Could we beat their starters? Yeah, we could. The biggest issue is the pass rush, and Watt LIVES in our backfield. We have a smart coach, our QB is pissed off, and our team is extremely pissed off. We might have what it takes...I just wouldn't bet on it. But damn...I want this one so badly.
Our biggest issue is WE do nothing to slow the pass rush. We don’t establish the run we don’t run our WRs/TEs right behind the blitz. By now you would think we would have picked up on every disguised blitz they have - but that’s still a work in progress. Couple that with a QB that holds the ball a little longer than he should- it doesn’t work. They have good players but it’s a Fairly easy philosophy- They take away your run and then tee off on your QB.
We need to do two things this offseason and maybe we get a crack at each team again this season. We need to draft a Lamar spy and we need our offensive coaches to scheme against the Steelers 3-4 and their varied blitz packages. We have some elite nerds- have they crunched the numbers??? Which backers do they send? What tendencies do they have on certain downs? Who is dropping more than rushing? They have guys that have been fixtures to in that defense for years- what are their tendencies???
I promised not to criticize our Defense until Sunday.
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I literally always expect to get obliterated by the Steelers every time we play against Big Ben. We might have a chance against Mason Rudolph, but I don't like the odds against their starters. Even when the Bengals beat them out was pretty crazy. Finley played out of his mind and was hitting incredible passes in between multiple defenders. It wasn't like the Steelers were terrible or anything.
Could we beat their starters? Yeah, we could. The biggest issue is the pass rush, and Watt LIVES in our backfield. We have a smart coach, our QB is pissed off, and our team is extremely pissed off. We might have what it takes...I just wouldn't bet on it. But damn...I want this one so badly.
Our biggest issue is WE do nothing to slow the pass rush. We don’t establish the run we don’t run our WRs/TEs right behind the blitz. By now you would think we would have picked up on every disguised blitz they have - but that’s still a work in progress. Couple that with a QB that holds the ball a little longer than he should- it doesn’t work. They have good players but it’s a Fairly easy philosophy- They take away your run and then tee off on your QB.
We need to do two things this offseason and maybe we get a crack at each team again this season. We need to draft a Lamar spy and we need our offensive coaches to scheme against the Steelers 3-4 and their varied blitz packages. We have some elite nerds- have they crunched the numbers??? Which backers do they send? What tendencies do they have on certain downs? Who is dropping more than rushing? They have guys that have been fixtures to in that defense for years- what are their tendencies???
I promised not to criticize our Defense until Sunday.
Our biggest issue is WE do nothing to slow the pass rush. We don’t establish the run we don’t run our WRs/TEs right behind the blitz. By now you would think we would have picked up on every disguised blitz they have - but that’s still a work in progress. Couple that with a QB that holds the ball a little longer than he should- it doesn’t work. They have good players but it’s a Fairly easy philosophy- They take away your run and then tee off on your QB.
When teams sell out to stop the run, it's virtually impossible to run it, especially when we have backups on the OL. You saw what happened against the Jets when we tried to run it. It was ABYSMAL. We couldn't even muster 2 or 3 yards a rush...against the JETS. What do you think will happen against the freakin STEELERS? The pass has to set up the run, but we also can't get down early.
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Our biggest issue is WE do nothing to slow the pass rush. We don’t establish the run we don’t run our WRs/TEs right behind the blitz. By now you would think we would have picked up on every disguised blitz they have - but that’s still a work in progress. Couple that with a QB that holds the ball a little longer than he should- it doesn’t work. They have good players but it’s a Fairly easy philosophy- They take away your run and then tee off on your QB.
When teams sell out to stop the run, it's virtually impossible to run it, especially when we have backups on the OL. You saw what happened against the Jets when we tried to run it. It was ABYSMAL. We couldn't even muster 2 or 3 yards a rush...against the JETS. What do you think will happen against the freakin STEELERS? The pass has to set up the run, but we also can't get down early.
When teams sell out to stop the run, it's virtually impossible to run it, especially when we have backups on the OL. You saw what happened against the Jets when we tried to run it. It was ABYSMAL. We couldn't even muster 2 or 3 yards a rush...against the JETS. What do you think will happen against the freakin STEELERS? The pass has to set up the run, but we also can't get down early.
First, We aren’t going to be down 4 WR Sunday. Because of that situation, we had Jet Corners shading inside keeping it all in the box. Also because of the scenario- We had A gap pressure.
We have to control Nose position better against them too- double and then get to the second level with one of the blockers.
I like Stef...but I think he panics too much but I understand he has no faith in our defense so there’s that to consider but If we are down by three scores or more in the second half its probably time to go Baker Run and Shoot- probably not until that point but With that you play right into the Steelers plan of pass on 1st, 2 and 3...they will get to him on one of those downs.
We have to diagnose their pressure better and when we do we can throw to that vacated area.
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When teams sell out to stop the run, it's virtually impossible to run it, especially when we have backups on the OL. You saw what happened against the Jets when we tried to run it. It was ABYSMAL. We couldn't even muster 2 or 3 yards a rush...against the JETS. What do you think will happen against the freakin STEELERS? The pass has to set up the run, but we also can't get down early.
First, We aren’t going to be down 4 WR Sunday. Because of that situation, we had Jet Corners shading inside keeping it all in the box. Also because of the scenario- We had A gap pressure.
We have to control Nose position better against them too- double and then get to the second level with one of the blockers.
I like Stef...but I think he panics too much but I understand he has no faith in our defense so there’s that to consider but If we are down by three scores or more in the second half its probably time to go Baker Run and Shoot- probably not until that point but With that you play right into the Steelers plan of pass on 1st, 2 and 3...they will get to him on one of those downs.
We have to diagnose their pressure better and when we do we can throw to that vacated area.
First, We aren’t going to be down 4 WR Sunday. Because of that situation, we had Jet Corners shading inside keeping it all in the box. Also because of the scenario- We had A gap pressure.
We have to control Nose position better against them too- double and then get to the second level with one of the blockers.
I like Stef...but I think he panics too much but I understand he has no faith in our defense so there’s that to consider but If we are down by three scores or more in the second half its probably time to go Baker Run and Shoot- probably not until that point but With that you play right into the Steelers plan of pass on 1st, 2 and 3...they will get to him on one of those downs.
We have to diagnose their pressure better and when we do we can throw to that vacated area.
Sounds good. LET'S GOOOOOOOO!
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I literally always expect to get obliterated by the Steelers every time we play against Big Ben. We might have a chance against Mason Rudolph, but I don't like the odds against their starters. Even when the Bengals beat them out was pretty crazy. Finley played out of his mind and was hitting incredible passes in between multiple defenders. It wasn't like the Steelers were terrible or anything.
Could we beat their starters? Yeah, we could. The biggest issue is the pass rush, and Watt LIVES in our backfield. We have a smart coach, our QB is pissed off, and our team is extremely pissed off. We might have what it takes...I just wouldn't bet on it. But damn...I want this one so badly.
Our biggest issue is WE do nothing to slow the pass rush. We don’t establish the run we don’t run our WRs/TEs right behind the blitz. By now you would think we would have picked up on every disguised blitz they have - but that’s still a work in progress. Couple that with a QB that holds the ball a little longer than he should- it doesn’t work. They have good players but it’s a Fairly easy philosophy- They take away your run and then tee off on your QB.
We need to do two things this offseason and maybe we get a crack at each team again this season. We need to draft a Lamar spy and we need our offensive coaches to scheme against the Steelers 3-4 and their varied blitz packages. We have some elite nerds- have they crunched the numbers??? Which backers do they send? What tendencies do they have on certain downs? Who is dropping more than rushing? They have guys that have been fixtures to in that defense for years- what are their tendencies???
I promised not to criticize our Defense until Sunday.
I promised not to criticize our Defense until Sunday.
Congrats... you made it all the way thru Monday!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Ben is sitting on Sunday...
The Steelers clinched the AFC North title thanks to a harrowing comeback win over the Indianapolis Colts in Week 16, and Tomlin notes he'll now "airmail" choice players to the playoffs. The impromptu bye week won't extend to everyone, however, but most certainly Roethlisberger -- whom the team wants at full strength for a potential run at the Super Bowl.
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing," Tomlin added, per Andrew Siciliano of NFL Network.
Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSicilianoTomlin says he's hoping to "airmail" some starters into the playoffs.
But he also said...
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing.""When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Ben is sitting on Sunday...
The Steelers clinched the AFC North title thanks to a harrowing comeback win over the Indianapolis Colts in Week 16, and Tomlin notes he'll now "airmail" choice players to the playoffs. The impromptu bye week won't extend to everyone, however, but most certainly Roethlisberger -- whom the team wants at full strength for a potential run at the Super Bowl.
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing," Tomlin added, per Andrew Siciliano of NFL Network.
Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSicilianoTomlin says he's hoping to "airmail" some starters into the playoffs.
But he also said...
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing."Ben is sitting on Sunday...
The Steelers clinched the AFC North title thanks to a harrowing comeback win over the Indianapolis Colts in Week 16, and Tomlin notes he'll now "airmail" choice players to the playoffs. The impromptu bye week won't extend to everyone, however, but most certainly Roethlisberger -- whom the team wants at full strength for a potential run at the Super Bowl.
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing," Tomlin added, per Andrew Siciliano of NFL Network.
Watch it be Watt, Heyward, Tuitt.
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Ben is sitting on Sunday...
The Steelers clinched the AFC North title thanks to a harrowing comeback win over the Indianapolis Colts in Week 16, and Tomlin notes he'll now "airmail" choice players to the playoffs. The impromptu bye week won't extend to everyone, however, but most certainly Roethlisberger -- whom the team wants at full strength for a potential run at the Super Bowl.
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing," Tomlin added, per Andrew Siciliano of NFL Network.
Watch it be Watt, Heyward, Tuitt.
Watch it be Watt, Heyward, Tuitt.
Gotta think so...
Can't afford to see any of them hurt.
Also thinking maybe Mincah...
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Ben is sitting on Sunday...
The Steelers clinched the AFC North title thanks to a harrowing comeback win over the Indianapolis Colts in Week 16, and Tomlin notes he'll now "airmail" choice players to the playoffs. The impromptu bye week won't extend to everyone, however, but most certainly Roethlisberger -- whom the team wants at full strength for a potential run at the Super Bowl.
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing," Tomlin added, per Andrew Siciliano of NFL Network.
Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSicilianoTomlin says he's hoping to "airmail" some starters into the playoffs.
But he also said...
"The vast majority of guys that have been playing, will be playing."Ben is sitting on Sunday...
But will the Refs allow Garret to even touch Rudolph the Reindeer?
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Ben is sitting on Sunday...
But will the Refs allow Garret to even touch Rudolph the Reindeer?
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Ben is sitting on Sunday...
But will the Refs allow Garret to even touch Rudolph the Reindeer?
But will the Refs allow Garret to even touch Rudolph the Reindeer?
We should send Sendejo on blindside blitz mission late hit on Mason maybe spark a fight and see if the Steelers retaliate and lose some important guys for the playoffs- that would be steeler move- provoke a fight and get away free.
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