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  • @nickers said:

    I thought Braxton Miller was..

    Hey now, don't forget Pryor

    @mld-woody said:

    Hey now, don't forget Pryor

    Actually Art Schlister may have been the best of them all until he blew it himself.

  • @the-gipper said:

    PIttsburgh's starter next year?  

    That actually crossed my mind... He would probably have to restructure his deal laden with possible incentives... I think hes guaranteed 1.9 mill or some shit like that...

    @nickers said:

    That actually crossed my mind... He would probably have to restructure his deal laden with possible incentives... I think hes guaranteed 1.9 mill or some shit like that...

    From spotrac......

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  • Zombo said:

    Throw in a couple more Purdue boys, Lenny Dawson and Bob Griese, and that's a pretty good five.

    Zombo

    And going really old school,  you have Arnie Herber, Wisconsin.  and Benny Friedman  Michigan....both Pro Football Hall of Fame QBs.   Not considered in GOAT conversation, but still HOFers.

  • The three best NFL quarterbacks ever came out of the Big Ten conference. Otto Graham and Drew Brees And another guy

    @the-gipper said:

    The three best NFL quarterbacks ever came out of the Big Ten conference. Otto Graham and Drew Brees And another guy

    Russell Wilson?

  • The three best NFL quarterbacks ever came out of the Big Ten conference. Otto Graham and Drew Brees And another guy

    @the-gipper said:

    The three best NFL quarterbacks ever came out of the Big Ten conference. Otto Graham and Drew Brees And another guy

    Nevermind-just saw Zombo's post above referencing the two I had, Griese and Dawson.

  • Zombo said:

    Throw in a couple more Purdue boys, Lenny Dawson and Bob Griese, and that's a pretty good five.

    Zombo

    Michigan was a total dead zone for nfl quarterbacks years back, I remember when Dan Dierdorf (a Michigan guy) saying that on ESPN's MNF before the recent ones....... namely Brady.

  • Here is the breakdown  of  QBs that are either in the HOF  or sure, or near locks (#) to get in  per  Conference......as the conferences are aligned today.   Power 5 then others:

    Pac 12

    Stanford:   Elway;      UCLA:    Aikman and Waterfield;    Oregon:  Fouts and  Van Brocklin;      Washington:  Moon;    Cal:   Rodgers#

    Big  10:

    Purdue:   Dawson and Griese and Brees#;     Northwestern:  Graham;     Michigan:  Brady#  and Friedman.     Wisconsin:    Herber and  Russell Wilson #

    ACC:  Duke:   Jurgenson  and Ace Parker;   Kelly:  Miami;     Pitt:  Marino;     Louisville:  Unitas;     NC St:  .    Rivers#.....also half credit for Wilson#

    SEC:

    Kentucky:  Blanda;     Alabama:   Namath and Starr and Stabler.     Georgia:   Tarkenton;     LSU:   Tittle;   Tennessee:  Peyton Manning#;    Mississippi:  Eli Manning#

    Big 12:

    Texas:  Bobby Layne;     TCU:  Sammy Baugh     Oklahoma:   half credit for Aikman

    Other:

    La Tech:   Bradshaw;     So. Miss:   Favre;    Notre Dame:  Montana *;    Navy:  Staubach;     No. Iowa:   Warner;     BYU:   Steve Young;    Miami  Oh.  Roethlisberger#;     Columbia:  Sid Luckman;    Colorado College:   Dutch Clark

    * Despite their play this year, I still consider Notre Dame as an Independent in football. 

    Big Ten and SEC are tied here with 8 QBs each. 

    Pac 12:  7

    ACC  6.5

    Big 12:   2.5

  • He didn’t have enough Reps at OSU he needed another year.

    The year he played he didn’t have to make reads in the pocket. 

    The owner drafted him 


    The last coach didn’t want him.

     
    They played him too soon (should have sat a couple years)

    Hes immature.

    I think he has talent 

  • It's hard to believe that tOSU had him rated higher than Burrow. Looks like Haskins is a total head case.

    @bob806 said:

    It's hard to believe that tOSU had him rated higher than Burrow. Looks like Haskins is a total head case.

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

  • @bob806 said:

    It's hard to believe that tOSU had him rated higher than Burrow. Looks like Haskins is a total head case.

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

    I hope Burrow can fully recover from his current injury he was the real deal for the Bengals.

  • @bob806 said:

    It's hard to believe that tOSU had him rated higher than Burrow. Looks like Haskins is a total head case.

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

    Is he going to be injury prone his whole career?   I don't know why, but he seems frail. 

  • He didn’t have enough Reps at OSU he needed another year.

    The year he played he didn’t have to make reads in the pocket. 

    The owner drafted him 


    The last coach didn’t want him.

     
    They played him too soon (should have sat a couple years)

    Hes immature.

    I think he has talent 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    He didn’t have enough Reps at OSU he needed another year.

    The year he played he didn’t have to make reads in the pocket. 

    The owner drafted him 


    The last coach didn’t want him.

     
    They played him too soon (should have sat a couple years)

    Hes immature.

    I think he has talent 

    One thing with OSU, as they switched from the QB running spread to a more passing based spread, is that they scheme to get great separation. Add on to the fact that their WRs all run 4.3s, and you're throwing to guys with yards of separation. That limits the need to make any real reads.

    It was brought up with Tua too. "NFL Open" and "Bama Open" are two different things. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

    I hope Burrow can fully recover from his current injury he was the real deal for the Bengals.

    @mjp28 said:

    I hope Burrow can fully recover from his current injury he was the real deal for the Bengals.

    I hate Cincitucky... But, I'm rooting hard for the kid...

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    He didn’t have enough Reps at OSU he needed another year.

    The year he played he didn’t have to make reads in the pocket. 

    The owner drafted him 


    The last coach didn’t want him.

     
    They played him too soon (should have sat a couple years)

    Hes immature.

    I think he has talent 

    One thing with OSU, as they switched from the QB running spread to a more passing based spread, is that they scheme to get great separation. Add on to the fact that their WRs all run 4.3s, and you're throwing to guys with yards of separation. That limits the need to make any real reads.

    It was brought up with Tua too. "NFL Open" and "Bama Open" are two different things. 

    @mld-woody said:

    One thing with OSU, as they switched from the QB running spread to a more passing based spread, is that they scheme to get great separation. Add on to the fact that their WRs all run 4.3s, and you're throwing to guys with yards of separation. That limits the need to make any real reads.

    It was brought up with Tua too. "NFL Open" and "Bama Open" are two different things. 

    Well, I think that is a thing with every college QB.  Generally DBs in the NFL are going to be much better, and have much tighter coverage than college DBs.  It just depends on how well someone adjusts to that in the pros.  Haskins clearly has the skills.....he just has to develop the proper aptitude. He needs to mature, and get better at the mental game. 

    One thing though that  Ohio State QBs  do....or should have the advantage in, is that every day in practice they face the best college DBs that the college game produces.  OSU  currently has  8....that's 8  DBs active in the NFL that were taken in the first round of the draft.    They don't have that many first rounders in the league at all other positions combined:

    1 QB  counting Haskins...though he is one day inactive!   1 RB  Zeke  2 OL,    and 3 DEs:   Heyward and the Bosas. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Burrows injury at OSU set him back in that competition 

    Is he going to be injury prone his whole career?   I don't know why, but he seems frail. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Is he going to be injury prone his whole career?   I don't know why, but he seems frail. 

    Many of us on this same forum were down on his prospects of Burrow staying healthy during the year (because of their line) and also because the Bengals decided that running the ball was optional this year.  
     

    He needs a blind side protector and a running game.  He should be fine.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Is he going to be injury prone his whole career?   I don't know why, but he seems frail. 

    Many of us on this same forum were down on his prospects of Burrow staying healthy during the year (because of their line) and also because the Bengals decided that running the ball was optional this year.  
     

    He needs a blind side protector and a running game.  He should be fine.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Many of us on this same forum were down on his prospects of staying healthy during the year (because of their line) and also because the Bengals decided that running the ball was optional this year.  
     

    He needs a blind side protector and a running game.  He should be fine.

    Penei Sewell out of Oregon is the top rated OT....supposed to go Top 5.  OT seems their primary need.   He could be on their radar,  though, they being currently in the #5 slot could miss out.  

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Many of us on this same forum were down on his prospects of staying healthy during the year (because of their line) and also because the Bengals decided that running the ball was optional this year.  
     

    He needs a blind side protector and a running game.  He should be fine.

    Penei Sewell out of Oregon is the top rated OT....supposed to go Top 5.  OT seems their primary need.   He could be on their radar,  though, they being currently in the #5 slot could miss out.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Penei Sewell out of Oregon is the top rated OT....supposed to go Top 5.  OT seems their primary need.   He could be on their radar,  though, they being currently in the #5 slot could miss out.  

    Yep he’s a good one.  I think they need a coach too. 

  • PIttsburgh's starter next year?  

    @the-gipper said:

    PIttsburgh's starter next year?  

    He’d have to grow up quickly.

    Can you imagine his first Steeler win taking selfies with fans and missing a kneel down play?

    They are already dealing with JuJu tik tok BEFORE the game.  

  • Possible future teams for Haskins do not include PTG... They've gotten rid of problem children a helluva lot more talented that Haskins., e.g., Brown and Bell.... although Bell was as much a $$$ issue as anything.

    Best problem kid teams are probably LV, NE and SEA... and pretty much in that order.

    Of these LV would make the most sense, if Gruden/Mayock liked anything he saw of Haskins in going thru the draft process.

    If they bring him in in a pure backup/grooming roll and deal either Carr or Mariotta in the off-season... maybe as early as the draft.

  • @the-gipper said:

    PIttsburgh's starter next year?  

    He’d have to grow up quickly.

    Can you imagine his first Steeler win taking selfies with fans and missing a kneel down play?

    They are already dealing with JuJu tik tok BEFORE the game.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    He’d have to grow up quickly.

    Can you imagine his first Steeler win taking selfies with fans and missing a kneel down play?

    They are already dealing with JuJu tik tok BEFORE the game.  

    Denver maybe?  They need a QB.  Lions may be looking if they lose Stafford.

    Need some clarification of Stafford's status.  Saw some indication he may be a FA, but not sure. 

    Maybe Tampa could be looking for a backup.  Maybe they could see something in Haskins which they did not see in  Winston.   They seem like similar kind of guys. 

    Carolina? 

    Of course, some of these teams may also be looking at the current OSU guy for the draft.