The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread
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Browns trading back wouldn't net much - thinking tiers, last 10 of the first and first 10 of the second are roughly equivalent.. Depends on the individual player of course, but don't drift away into fantasyland thinking that everyone is as terrible at trades as the ex-Texans GM. For us to "win a trade-back" .. someone has to be that idiot you're planning to fleece, and I just don't see it.
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Browns trading back wouldn't net much - thinking tiers, last 10 of the first and first 10 of the second are roughly equivalent.. Depends on the individual player of course, but don't drift away into fantasyland thinking that everyone is as terrible at trades as the ex-Texans GM. For us to "win a trade-back" .. someone has to be that idiot you're planning to fleece, and I just don't see it.
Browns trading back wouldn't net much - thinking tiers, last 10 of the first and first 10 of the second are roughly equivalent.. Depends on the individual player of course, but don't drift away into fantasyland thinking that everyone is as terrible at trades as the ex-Texans GM. For us to "win a trade-back" .. someone has to be that idiot you're planning to fleece, and I just don't see it.
Right now they would be drafting in the dreaded #22 spot!! Isn't that where they took Quinn, Weeden and JMZ?
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Here is who one mock draft has them taking. What do all you "draft experts" say about this possible choice? :
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6'4"253 lbs -
Here is who one mock draft has them taking. What do all you "draft experts" say about this possible choice? :
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6'4"253 lbsHere is who one mock draft has them taking. What do all you "draft experts" say about this possible choice? :
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6'4"253 lbsNot opposed at all.
I usually don’t like Notre Dame guys but Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB, Notre Dame caught my attention this year.
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Here is who one mock draft has them taking. What do all you "draft experts" say about this possible choice? :
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6'4"253 lbsNot opposed at all.
I usually don’t like Notre Dame guys but Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB, Notre Dame caught my attention this year.
Seems like the type of athlete that can chase Lamar too.Seems like the type of athlete that can chase Lamar too
Maybe, but it'd be better to have someone who could actually catch LJ...
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The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
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The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
And I won't charge you for my earlier opinion that.....despite all of the mocks post-Northwestern that still had him in the Top 5, I said that he WOULD slip down to like 9-10.....because...just as you see here, other than Jags who will take Trevor, none of the other teams before 9-10 are really in the market for a QB.
BUT....I may charge you for my opinion that Zack Wilson of BYU may be taken over Fields....not because Fields would be devalued, but because, I think, Wilson's draft prospect evaluations may skyrocket.
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The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
I see no reason for the Broncos to take a questionable QB when they already have a good one in Lock. Waste of a pick when they need more help in the OL.
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The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
I see no reason for the Broncos to take a questionable QB when they already have a good one in Lock. Waste of a pick when they need more help in the OL.
when they already have a good one in Lock.
You and John Elway might be the only one's to think that.
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The nice thing about me, Gip... I don't even charge for the premium opinions I provide.
I see no reason for the Broncos to take a questionable QB when they already have a good one in Lock. Waste of a pick when they need more help in the OL.
I see no reason for the Broncos to take a questionable QB when they already have a good one in Lock. Waste of a pick when they need more help in the OL.
Well......I think few would agree with you that the prospects for Lock are better than those for Fields.
Do the "experts on here agree with that?
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when they already have a good one in Lock.
You and John Elway might be the only one's to think that.
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when they already have a good one in Lock.
You and John Elway might be the only one's to think that.
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You and John Elway might be the only one's to think that.
Maybe John knows the real problem is in the OL.
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Maybe John knows the real problem is in the OL.
Well I'm sure Denver fans hope Elway is better at identifying OL talent than he is QB talent.
Because he's taken 3 top 50 picks on a QB in the last 7 years.
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Maybe John knows the real problem is in the OL.
Well I'm sure Denver fans hope Elway is better at identifying OL talent than he is QB talent.
Because he's taken 3 top 50 picks on a QB in the last 7 years.
Well I'm sure Denver fans hope Elway is better at identifying OL talent than he is QB talent.
Because he's taken 3 top 50 picks on a QB in the last 7 years.
And taking Fields would be exactly the same IMO. Time to do exactly what the Browns did. Fix that OL immediately and use the #1 pick on a good one like we did. When you put a decent QB behind it who isn't running for his life every other play, then maybe you can see what he really looks like. Lock has shown me enough to believe he will be good behind an OL that gives him time to really go through progressions.
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Well I'm sure Denver fans hope Elway is better at identifying OL talent than he is QB talent.
Because he's taken 3 top 50 picks on a QB in the last 7 years.
And taking Fields would be exactly the same IMO. Time to do exactly what the Browns did. Fix that OL immediately and use the #1 pick on a good one like we did. When you put a decent QB behind it who isn't running for his life every other play, then maybe you can see what he really looks like. Lock has shown me enough to believe he will be good behind an OL that gives him time to really go through progressions.
And taking Fields would be exactly the same IMO. Time to do exactly what the Browns did. Fix that OL immediately and use the #1 pick on a good one like we did. When you put a decent QB behind it who isn't running for his life every other play, then maybe you can see what he really looks like. Lock has shown me enough to believe he will be good behind an OL that gives him time to really go through progressions.
I don't think Lock is viewed with the same potential as Baker Mayfield was when we all knew that the Browns were in desperate need of a LT when we drafted Wills. Is he?
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Call me an OSU homer..Fields may play well or put out a few more bad clips this Friday. I think he’s actually going to play a little more relaxed this Friday.
But I strongly believe he will put on a show during his workouts with his arm, his legs and his mind and he will be a top prospect this draft.
There have been enough flashes of potential in the past season and a half.
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when they already have a good one in Lock.
You and John Elway might be the only one's to think that.
You and John Elway might be the only one's to think that.
Nah... I, too, think Lock has a chance of making it. He's certainly the best Elway pick to date.
Of course given his other picks... Lynch and the Brockmeister... that ain't saying much.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Nah... I, too, think Lock has a chance of making it. He's certainly the best Elway pick to date.
Of course given his other picks... Lynch and the Brockmeister... that ain't saying much.
The question at hand is do you think that the Broncos should take Justin Fields if he is available when they draft? Or stick with Lock?
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Nah... I, too, think Lock has a chance of making it. He's certainly the best Elway pick to date.
Of course given his other picks... Lynch and the Brockmeister... that ain't saying much.
Bingo.
While it's a small sample size, some of the Denver games I've watched this year... Lock has made some absolutely unforgivable throws. High school level shit.
And taking Fields would be exactly the same IMO. Time to do exactly what the Browns did. Fix that OL immediately and use the #1 pick on a good one like we did. When you put a decent QB behind it who isn't running for his life every other play, then maybe you can see what he really looks like. Lock has shown me enough to believe he will be good behind an OL that gives him time to really go through progressions.
As for their Oline? They have one of the rising young LT"s in the NFL, a decent pair of guard play (Glasglow is pretty good) and then Demar Dotson, who I don't know much about but PFF has graded him as "starting" level for the season. PFF and I have our spats but I don't recall Dotson being rolled when I watched them. What I do remember is their center be straight trash. And...... Yep, PFF seems to hate him. So at least individual grades seem about eye to eye today. Then again, a terrible center can make or break a line. So I'm not willing to discount what you're saying. Only to point out that if your QB play is elevated by the players around him and not vice versa, then is it really your long-term QB?
Call me an OSU homer..Fields may play well or put out a few more bad clips this Friday. I think he’s actually going to play a little more relaxed this Friday.
But I strongly believe he will put on a show during his workouts with his arm, his legs and his mind and he will be a top prospect this draft.
There have been enough flashes of potential in the past season and a half.
If Fields flops v Clemson or puts some shakes tape, he would do best to come back for another year IMHO. Make your run at the Heisman and Natty fresh with all the chemistry and development that we haven't seen since Troy to Teddy and Gonzo. I can't even begin to stress how rare it is for me to say that as well. A potential 1st round pick? The last time I said a Buckeye should stay was.....Thaddeus Gipson? Maybe? But he wasn't being hyped as a 1st rounder either. So I have to dig deep and say it was a two-fer with Ashton Youboty and Donte' Whitner. The 2006 defense with 2 extra capable DB's instead of trotting out Jamario O'Neal and Yao Smith =( Might not have shit the bed against *ichigan and UF that year.
If Fields struggles and gets drafted on the strength of a scripted workout..? Then congrats, some GM is making the same mistake that has been done hundreds of times before him.
edit: Especially in what will most likely be a very crowded QB class.
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