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2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.

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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Has Trevor Lawrence improved much over the past three years?

     Not that I can see, but then his supporting cast seems to have declined this season. Case in point is tia's shift which to me looks like a game-planning acknowledgment of their decline especially along the OL.

    The one thing he has mastered is the "chuck n duck". While he completed a couple last nite there were more that he did not including the final one ending in an INT. I've no issue when a QB does so out of self-preservation with a hit imminent, some last nite were under relatively light pressure. That said Trevor's stats are up excepting his INT rate which is roughly the same as last season. I can't recall him "standing in" and delivering once last nite.

    I do have to add that IMO he's going to look very ordinary at the next level after being drafted by a bad team, i.e., JAX.

    @tour2ma said:

    I do have to add that IMO he's going to look very ordinary at the next level after being drafted by a bad team, i.e., JAX.

    Sucks because Jax has some pieces there to actually be a competitive team.

  • Whoever this kid from Iowa State is - #88.  Yeah...  He's going to be worth a watch for a lot of teams.

  • Whoever this kid from Iowa State is - #88.  Yeah...  He's going to be worth a watch for a lot of teams.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Whoever this kid from Iowa State is - #88.  Yeah...  He's going to be worth a watch for a lot of teams.

    88 Charlie Kolar TE 6-6 257 Jr

    NFL Draft Diamonds Scouting Notes:

    Charlie Kolar is one of the best pass catching tight ends in the country. He has great hands, and runs great routes. He is a little lanky, but I would expect him to gain some weight this year. He has a Jimmy Graham type of body frame, and he plays a lot of like Jimmy Graham. I am a fan of his, I think he will blow up this season for the Cyclones, and I would not be surprised if he leaves early. – Damond Talbot, Owner, NFL Draft Diamonds

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Whoever this kid from Iowa State is - #88.  Yeah...  He's going to be worth a watch for a lot of teams.

    88 Charlie Kolar TE 6-6 257 Jr

    NFL Draft Diamonds Scouting Notes:

    Charlie Kolar is one of the best pass catching tight ends in the country. He has great hands, and runs great routes. He is a little lanky, but I would expect him to gain some weight this year. He has a Jimmy Graham type of body frame, and he plays a lot of like Jimmy Graham. I am a fan of his, I think he will blow up this season for the Cyclones, and I would not be surprised if he leaves early. – Damond Talbot, Owner, NFL Draft Diamonds

    @calfoxwc said:

    88 Charlie Kolar TE 6-6 257 Jr

    NFL Draft Diamonds Scouting Notes:

    Charlie Kolar is one of the best pass catching tight ends in the country. He has great hands, and runs great routes. He is a little lanky, but I would expect him to gain some weight this year. He has a Jimmy Graham type of body frame, and he plays a lot of like Jimmy Graham. I am a fan of his, I think he will blow up this season for the Cyclones, and I would not be surprised if he leaves early. – Damond Talbot, Owner, NFL Draft Diamonds

    Jimmy Graham was exactly who I was thinking. Tall, a bit lean(er)   basically a converted small forward.    Kid looks like he has great hands, natural pass catcher.

    @texasag1969

    Tell me about Bobby Brown on your DI.  Kid looks like a giant.

  • Another mid-round LB: UMich's Cam McGrone.  235 pounds and seems really agile/quick change of direction for coverage.  The few clips I saw looked like he has tools.  May not have much experience [10 starts] but that's why many thought he shouldn't declare.  NFLdraftscout apparently has him at #3 for ILB so he may not be a round4 guy.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    88 Charlie Kolar TE 6-6 257 Jr

    NFL Draft Diamonds Scouting Notes:

    Charlie Kolar is one of the best pass catching tight ends in the country. He has great hands, and runs great routes. He is a little lanky, but I would expect him to gain some weight this year. He has a Jimmy Graham type of body frame, and he plays a lot of like Jimmy Graham. I am a fan of his, I think he will blow up this season for the Cyclones, and I would not be surprised if he leaves early. – Damond Talbot, Owner, NFL Draft Diamonds

    Jimmy Graham was exactly who I was thinking. Tall, a bit lean(er)   basically a converted small forward.    Kid looks like he has great hands, natural pass catcher.

    @texasag1969

    Tell me about Bobby Brown on your DI.  Kid looks like a giant.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Jimmy Graham was exactly who I was thinking. Tall, a bit lean(er)   basically a converted small forward.    Kid looks like he has great hands, natural pass catcher.

    @texasag1969

    Tell me about Bobby Brown on your DI.  Kid looks like a giant.

    Well kept secret I was hoping will come back for his senior year. 1st Team All-SEC DT whose job it is to shut down the inside game and push interior OLs into the QB on passing downs. 6-4  325lbs. Like most of their DL he shares time so that they can play as a group as strong in the 4th Q as they play in the 1st.

    EDIT: I started to post this early in the game last night, but got superstitious and did not want to jinx him or them. NC was missing some players, but the A&M defense was also missing 3 senior starters last night. Just was not declared until game time.

    Anyway because he was rested throughout the game as A&M does with their DLs, he ended up making the key 3rd and 4th down stops late to get the ball back with the 7 point lead, by doing just what his job is, disrupt the inside blockers and force the RB off his designated hole through the line. I really hope he returns for his senior season because I think coming out he will just be a mid-round pick even though he did make 1st team SEC DL. If we could get him in the 4th, it would be a steal IMO. 

    EDIT #2: Keep an eye on this kid the next couple of years. He came in for the injured starting RB Spiller and showed exactly why I think he will be a starting NFL RB some day. 4.3 40 speed and state HS champ in the 200m dash combined with great balance and vision.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I do have to add that IMO he's going to look very ordinary at the next level after being drafted by a bad team, i.e., JAX.

    Safe to say you were much higher on Burrow at this time last year entering the Draft than you are Lawrence now? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say you were much higher on Burrow at this time last year entering the Draft than you are Lawrence now? 

    Yup... I can't recall an easier QB evaluation than Burrow. But don't get me wrong, I think Lawrence has a nice future in the NFL, it just is going to happen for him out of the gate as it did with Burrow.

    Meanwhile it's confirmed... Kellen Mond is my 2021 Darkhorse. Love his mechanics... very quick release... plenty of arm... good legs... 6'3... and more than enough evidence of gray matter.

    DraftScout has him on the Round 3/4 cusp. While I suspect he climbs some, if I was in the Browns' war room and he is around late round three I start pounding the table hard...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say you were much higher on Burrow at this time last year entering the Draft than you are Lawrence now? 

    Yup... I can't recall an easier QB evaluation than Burrow. But don't get me wrong, I think Lawrence has a nice future in the NFL, it just is going to happen for him out of the gate as it did with Burrow.

    Meanwhile it's confirmed... Kellen Mond is my 2021 Darkhorse. Love his mechanics... very quick release... plenty of arm... good legs... 6'3... and more than enough evidence of gray matter.

    DraftScout has him on the Round 3/4 cusp. While I suspect he climbs some, if I was in the Browns' war room and he is around late round three I start pounding the table hard...

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... I can't recall an easier QB evaluation than Burrow. But don't get me wrong, I think Lawrence has a nice future in the NFL, it just is going to happen for him out of the gate as it did with Burrow.

    Meanwhile it's confirmed... Kellen Mond is my 2021 Darkhorse. Love his mechanics... very quick release... plenty of arm... good legs... 6'3... and more than enough evidence of gray matter.

    DraftScout has him on the Round 3/4 cusp. While I suspect he climbs some, if I was in the Browns' war room and he is around late round three I start pounding the table hard...

    And my dark horse from A&M is DT Bobby Brown (if he comes out) from A&M, 1st team All-SEC. Round 4 steal for somebody. Clogs up the middle and ability to power-push OLs into a QB.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... I can't recall an easier QB evaluation than Burrow. But don't get me wrong, I think Lawrence has a nice future in the NFL, it just is going to happen for him out of the gate as it did with Burrow.

    Meanwhile it's confirmed... Kellen Mond is my 2021 Darkhorse. Love his mechanics... very quick release... plenty of arm... good legs... 6'3... and more than enough evidence of gray matter.

    DraftScout has him on the Round 3/4 cusp. While I suspect he climbs some, if I was in the Browns' war room and he is around late round three I start pounding the table hard...

    And my dark horse from A&M is DT Bobby Brown (if he comes out) from A&M, 1st team All-SEC. Round 4 steal for somebody. Clogs up the middle and ability to power-push OLs into a QB.

    @texasag1969 said:

    And my dark horse from A&M is DT Bobby Brown (if he comes out) 

    It's his prerogative. He can do what he wants to do (His prerogative).  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And my dark horse from A&M is DT Bobby Brown (if he comes out) 

    It's his prerogative. He can do what he wants to do (His prerogative).  

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's his prerogative. He can do what he wants to do (His prerogative).  

    You going all Bobby Brown on us?

  • Did I click on the video and play it with the sound turned all the way up? Hell yes I did. 

    Now, here's a question because I've forgotten how to do it... How do you post videos? When I do it I just get the link, but how do you do it so it actually posts the video right there ready to go? 

  • Did I click on the video and play it with the sound turned all the way up? Hell yes I did. 

    Now, here's a question because I've forgotten how to do it... How do you post videos? When I do it I just get the link, but how do you do it so it actually posts the video right there ready to go? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Did I click on the video and play it with the sound turned all the way up? Hell yes I did. 

    Now, here's a question because I've forgotten how to do it... How do you post videos? When I do it I just get the link, but how do you do it so it actually posts the video right there ready to go? 

    And you likely put on your parachute pants...

    Simple copy/paste of the youtube vid's addy bar converts to the vid for me...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Did I click on the video and play it with the sound turned all the way up? Hell yes I did. 

    Now, here's a question because I've forgotten how to do it... How do you post videos? When I do it I just get the link, but how do you do it so it actually posts the video right there ready to go? 

    And you likely put on your parachute pants...

    Simple copy/paste of the youtube vid's addy bar converts to the vid for me...

    @tour2ma said:

    And you likely put on your parachute pants...

    Simple copy/paste of the youtube vid's addy bar converts to the vid for me...

  • I think I was accidentally putting it in the link spot, and not just pasting it on here. 

  • WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask. 

  • WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask. 

    Trask would be a good pick for them.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask. 

    Trask would be a good pick for them.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Trask would be a good pick for them.

    Definitely in the Big Ben mold...

  • Someone on another thread mentioned McCarron...the former Alabama QB.  The name Greg McElroy also comes to mind.  Then there are the likes of  Tua and Hurts...other Alabama or former Bama QBs.

    Which brings also to my mind this Mac Jones.    Impressive stats for East Germany.....but then all these other   guys came from there as well. 

    I understand he is a favorite, or one of them for the Heisman.

    So, for the so called experts on here.....is there really anything about this guy to differentiate him from the other  Bama QBs such that he could actually be said in the same breath as Starr/Namath/Stabler......or is he a McCarron or McElroy type. 

  • PFF is a bit of a fan of mac jones - but that link and 3 bucks will buy you a coffee.

  • Jones reminds me of McCarron... a very functional cog in the BAMA machine.