Meyer to JAX?

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

Oh, I believe your story too. I think both him being mad at getting suspended and his that his health was bothering him were true.

Right, both may have been true. The tumor though, is a know fact. The other, is still a rumor or speculation.....but it may have been true. Of course ....Icecube has all his "inside information" on the OBJ situation may have been as accurate as this.

ATOM

well good luck to him just as long as he does not interfere with us winning

The Gipper

I personally don't think it is a great idea. I still see him as a college guy.

You know, Texas now has an opening. If there is one college program that can match OSU for revenue.....and the money they pay their HC, it is Texas. You never know about that.

I personally do NOT think that Doug Marrone should go anywhere. I think he is a pretty good coach....but was saddled with a team that was clearly tanking for Trevor. So, Mission Accomplished. Let the guy that you threw to the Wolves no go rescue Grandma.

There are other NFL jobs that will be up:

DumbAss Texans. Detroit. Maybe Denver. Maybe The Bengals. Mike Browns may jump high and broad to bring Meyer in there. Atlanta is open. Jets maybe.

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

I personally don't think it is a great idea. I still see him as a college guy.

You know, Texas now has an opening.

That's the job I would take if I were him.

I have serious questions about his offensive philosophy working in the NFL, and he is a fantastic recruiter, which means his teams almost always are more talented than the opposition in college. Who different world in the NFL.

ATOM

@dutch-oven said:

That's the job I would take if I were him.

I have serious questions about his offensive philosophy working in the NFL, and he is a fantastic recruiter, which means his teams almost always are more talented than the opposition in college. Who different world in the NFL.

that and as someone said he likes running qb's

Gunz41

@the-gipper said:

I personally don't think it is a great idea. I still see him as a college guy.

You know, Texas now has an opening. If there is one college program that can match OSU for revenue.....and the money they pay their HC, it is Texas. You never know about that.

I personally do NOT think that Doug Marrone should go anywhere. I think he is a pretty good coach....but was saddled with a team that was clearly tanking for Trevor. So, Mission Accomplished. Let the guy that you threw to the Wolves no go rescue Grandma.

There are other NFL jobs that will be up:

DumbAss Texans. Detroit. Maybe Denver. Maybe The Bengals. Mike Browns may jump high and broad to bring Meyer in there. Atlanta is open. Jets maybe.

Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

The Gipper

@gunz41 said:

Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

Ahh...is that official?

Maybe he can go to Arizona. I think there is an opening there....and it is where what I would call "semi-retired" coaches go. Ones that have already succeeded elsewhere and go to Tuscon for the weather.

Gunz41

@the-gipper said:

Ahh...is that official?

Maybe he can go to Arizona. I think there is an opening there....and it is where what I would call "semi-retired" coaches go. Ones that have already succeeded elsewhere and go to Tuscon for the weather.

I wouldn't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole if I were him. Certainly not compared to an NFL team, but even if just college. Harder to get biggest recruits, and Pac 12 just is at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff.

Take Clemson out because they are just a top notch program recently. There are 4 programs in the country that would get in CFP if everything is equal (I.e. same record etc.): Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. Not saying that everything can always match up equally, but those are probably THE top 4 programs looked at in that way

bjh2130

@the-gipper said:

You know, Texas now has an opening

He already turned down Texas offering him 7 years 84 million. Also they are hiring Steve Sarkisian.

Dutch Oven

@gunz41 said:

Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk.

The Gipper

@gunz41 said:

I wouldn't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole if I were him. Certainly not compared to an NFL team, but even if just college. Harder to get biggest recruits, and Pac 12 just is at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff.

Take Clemson out because they are just a top notch program recently. There are 4 programs in the country that would get in CFP if everything is equal (I.e. same record etc.): Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. Not saying that everything can always match up equally, but those are probably THE top 4 programs looked at in that way

But none of those jobs are open, are they? You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he? And Kelly, no.

So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere. And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather. Not because of the program. And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?

But if not there, where?

The Gipper

It seems most vacancies at this point have been filled:

Team	2020 Coach (Record)	2021 Coach
Arizona	Kevin Sumlin (0-5), ^IPaul Rhoads (0-0)	Jedd Fisch
Arkansas State	Blake Anderson (4-7)	Butch Jones
Auburn	Guz Malzahn (6-4), ^IKevin Steele (0-1)	Bryan Harsin
Boise State	Bryan Harsin (5-2)	?
Illinois	Lovie Smith (2-5), ^IRod Smith (0-1)	Bret Bielema
Louisiana-Monroe	Matt Viator (0-10), ^IScott Stoker (0-0)	Terry Bowden
South Alabama	Steve Campbell (4-7)	Kane Wommack
South Carolina	Will Muschamp (2-5), ^IMike Bobo (0-3)	Shane Beamer
Southern Miss	Jay Hopson (0-1), ^IScotty Walden (1-3), ^I Tim Billings (2-3)	Will Hall
Texas	Tom Herman (7-3)	Steve Sarkisian
Utah State	Gary Andersen (0-3), ^IFrank Maile (1-2)	Blake Anderson
Vanderbilt	Derek Mason (0-8), ^ITodd Fitch (0-1)	Clark Lea

bjh2130

@dutch-oven said:

That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk.

They did. There was a full on interview and an offer. The problem was urban couldn't get all of his core 4 (pantoni, mariotti, stamper) to leave ohio state and go to Texas. Those have been his guys since before Florida with the exception of stamper. He joined the staff while urban was at Florida.

ATOM

@dutch-oven said:

That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk.

urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat

bjh2130

@atom said:

urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat

A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore. He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas. Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences

Gunz41

@the-gipper said:

But none of those jobs are open, are they? You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he? And Kelly, no.

So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere. And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather. Not because of the program. And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?

But if not there, where?

Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.

And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.

And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.

MLD Woody

If ND opened up he'd go there.

ATOM

@bjh2130 said:

A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore. He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas. Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences

no matters fuck texas

Gunz41

Gase out in NY

The Gipper

@gunz41 said:

Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.

And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.

And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.

Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?