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  • @the-gipper said:

    I personally don't think it is a great idea. I still see him as a college guy. 

    You know, Texas now has an opening.  If there is one college program that can match OSU for revenue.....and the money they pay their HC, it is Texas.  You never know about that. 

    I personally do NOT think that Doug Marrone should go anywhere.  I think he is a pretty good coach....but was saddled with a team that was clearly tanking for Trevor.   So, Mission Accomplished.   Let the guy that you threw to the Wolves no go rescue Grandma.

    There are other NFL jobs that will be up:

    DumbAss Texans.     Detroit.  Maybe Denver.    Maybe The Bengals.  Mike Browns may jump high and broad to bring Meyer in there.   Atlanta is open.   Jets maybe.  

    Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

    He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

    @gunz41 said:

    Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

    He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

    That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Ahh...is that official? 

    Maybe he can go to Arizona.   I think there is an opening there....and it is where what I would call  "semi-retired" coaches go. Ones that have already succeeded elsewhere and go to Tuscon for the weather. 

    I wouldn't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole if I were him. Certainly not compared to an NFL team, but even if just college. Harder to get biggest recruits, and Pac 12 just is at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff.

    Take Clemson out because they are just a top notch program recently. There are 4 programs in the country that would get in CFP if everything is equal (I.e. same record etc.): Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. Not saying that everything can always match up equally, but those are probably THE top 4 programs looked at in that way

    @gunz41 said:

    I wouldn't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole if I were him. Certainly not compared to an NFL team, but even if just college. Harder to get biggest recruits, and Pac 12 just is at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff.

    Take Clemson out because they are just a top notch program recently. There are 4 programs in the country that would get in CFP if everything is equal (I.e. same record etc.): Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. Not saying that everything can always match up equally, but those are probably THE top 4 programs looked at in that way

    But none of those jobs are open, are they?   You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he?  And Kelly, no. 

    So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere.  And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather.  Not because of the program.  And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?

    But if not there, where? 

  • It seems most vacancies at this point have been filled:

    Team 2020 Coach (Record) 2021 Coach
    Arizona Kevin Sumlin (0-5), I Paul Rhoads (0-0) Jedd Fisch
    Arkansas State Blake Anderson (4-7) Butch Jones
    Auburn Guz Malzahn (6-4), I Kevin Steele (0-1) Bryan Harsin
    Boise State Bryan Harsin (5-2) ?
    Illinois Lovie Smith (2-5), I Rod Smith (0-1) Bret Bielema
    Louisiana-Monroe Matt Viator (0-10), I Scott Stoker (0-0) Terry Bowden
    South Alabama Steve Campbell (4-7) Kane Wommack
    South Carolina Will Muschamp (2-5), I Mike Bobo (0-3) Shane Beamer
    Southern Miss Jay Hopson (0-1), I Scotty Walden (1-3), I Tim Billings (2-3) Will Hall
    Texas Tom Herman (7-3) Steve Sarkisian
    Utah State Gary Andersen (0-3), I Frank Maile (1-2) Blake Anderson
    Vanderbilt Derek Mason (0-8), ITodd Fitch (0-1) Clark Lea
  • @gunz41 said:

    Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

    He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

    That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk. 

    They did. There was a full on interview and an offer.  The problem was urban couldn't get all of his core 4 (pantoni, mariotti, stamper) to leave ohio state and go to Texas.  Those have been his guys since before Florida with the exception of stamper. He joined the staff while urban was at Florida.

  • @gunz41 said:

    Texas doesn't have an opening, Steve Sarkisian took the job about an hour after it opened up.

    He is just staying with Alabama through the title game

    That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk. 

    urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat

  • @dutch-oven said:

    That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk. 

    urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat

    @atom said:

    urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat

    A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore.  He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas.  Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences

  • @gunz41 said:

    I wouldn't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole if I were him. Certainly not compared to an NFL team, but even if just college. Harder to get biggest recruits, and Pac 12 just is at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff.

    Take Clemson out because they are just a top notch program recently. There are 4 programs in the country that would get in CFP if everything is equal (I.e. same record etc.): Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. Not saying that everything can always match up equally, but those are probably THE top 4 programs looked at in that way

    But none of those jobs are open, are they?   You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he?  And Kelly, no. 

    So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere.  And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather.  Not because of the program.  And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?

    But if not there, where? 

    @the-gipper said:

    But none of those jobs are open, are they?   You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he?  And Kelly, no. 

    So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere.  And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather.  Not because of the program.  And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?

    But if not there, where? 

    Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.

    And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.

    And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.

  • If ND opened up he'd go there. 

  • @atom said:

    urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat

    A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore.  He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas.  Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences

    @bjh2130 said:

    A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore.  He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas.  Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences

    no matters fuck texas 

  • Gase out in NY

  • @the-gipper said:

    But none of those jobs are open, are they?   You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he?  And Kelly, no. 

    So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere.  And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather.  Not because of the program.  And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?

    But if not there, where? 

    Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.

    And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.

    And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.

    @gunz41 said:

    Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.

    And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.

    And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.

    Well,  then,  what programs may he go to?   Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up  are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only  option.....and challenge? 

  • Gase out in NY

    @gunz41 said:

    Gase out in NY

    Well....another option, eh?   Jets may want a high profile name. 

  • @gunz41 said:

    Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.

    And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.

    And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.

    Well,  then,  what programs may he go to?   Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up  are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only  option.....and challenge? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Well,  then,  what programs may he go to?   Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up  are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only  option.....and challenge? 

    Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college.  Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs. 

  • The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo

  • The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo

    @bjh2130 said:

    The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo

    Meyer to JAX, drafts Lawrence

    Harbaugh to NYJ, drafts Fields

    That would be interesting

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well,  then,  what programs may he go to?   Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up  are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only  option.....and challenge? 

    Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college.  Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college.  Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs. 

    Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?

  • The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo

    @bjh2130 said:

    The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo

    Well....there are a hell of a lot more questions than that.  

    First....Meyer going to the Pros, as I said, is not IMO a fit.   Further the Jags may want a proven NFL type,  be it former HC or  hot OC/DC.

    Also....even if Meyer got the HC job, what makes you think he would have the authority over personnel?   

    There current interim GM is a guy named Balke......

    ....they have interviewed Jerry Reese, former GM of the Giants...when they were good

    ...they are looking at Louis Riddick;   Rick Smith, former  Houston GM.

    I don't think Meyer would have final say over who to draft.  If he were HC he would have input.....but I suggest every single one of those other guys would take Trevor. 

  • and even i have posted in this thread 

    who fucking cares

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college.  Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs. 

    Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?

    @the-gipper said:

    Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?

    If either of them ever wanted to try out the NFL.

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