Meyer to JAX?
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That is true, but you have to think that someone from Austin reached out to Urban and asked him if he was interested before settling on a guy on his third head coaching gig, and who had his last one at USC blow up because he was a drunk.
urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat
urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat
A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore. He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas. Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences
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I wouldn't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole if I were him. Certainly not compared to an NFL team, but even if just college. Harder to get biggest recruits, and Pac 12 just is at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff.
Take Clemson out because they are just a top notch program recently. There are 4 programs in the country that would get in CFP if everything is equal (I.e. same record etc.): Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. Not saying that everything can always match up equally, but those are probably THE top 4 programs looked at in that way
But none of those jobs are open, are they? You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he? And Kelly, no.
So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere. And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather. Not because of the program. And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?
But if not there, where?
But none of those jobs are open, are they? You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he? And Kelly, no.
So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere. And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather. Not because of the program. And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?
But if not there, where?
Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.
And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.
And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.
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If ND opened up he'd go there.
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urban and hermon have had so many words I would think he would have loved to take over texas just to ram it down his throat
A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore. He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas. Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences
A huge reason he took the interview was because of their beef and that's a big reason as to why Titty Bar Tom isn't at Texas anymore. He found out they were interviewing him mid season when they legit still had a chance at big 12 championship. Old titty bar tom became irate. That's when you started hearing the rumors Herman wanted out of Texas. Texas and Herman could not reconcile their differences
no matters fuck texas
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But none of those jobs are open, are they? You already advised about Texas....and he would obviously not come back to OSU......and Saban ain't going nowhere, is he? And Kelly, no.
So, if he really, really wants to coach again, and if he thinks he is up to it healthwise, he will have to look elsewhere. And I thought of AZ because of the vacancy...and the weather. Not because of the program. And would he not be just a big enough egotist to think he could turn things around there?
But if not there, where?
Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.
And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.
And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.
Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.
And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.
And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.
Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?
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Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.
And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.
And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.
Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?
Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?
Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college. Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs.
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The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo
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The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo
The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo
Meyer to JAX, drafts Lawrence
Harbaugh to NYJ, drafts Fields
That would be interesting
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Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?
Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college. Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs.
Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college. Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs.
Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?
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The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo
The only remaining question is does Meyer really draft Fields over Lawrence. He would be crazy to do so imo
Well....there are a hell of a lot more questions than that.
First....Meyer going to the Pros, as I said, is not IMO a fit. Further the Jags may want a proven NFL type, be it former HC or hot OC/DC.
Also....even if Meyer got the HC job, what makes you think he would have the authority over personnel?
There current interim GM is a guy named Balke......
....they have interviewed Jerry Reese, former GM of the Giants...when they were good
...they are looking at Louis Riddick; Rick Smith, former Houston GM.
I don't think Meyer would have final say over who to draft. If he were HC he would have input.....but I suggest every single one of those other guys would take Trevor.
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Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college. Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs.
Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?
Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?
If either of them ever wanted to try out the NFL.
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Story of the Day: Harbaugh resigning with Michigan through 2026
Could today get any better? I submit to you that it cannot!
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Story of the Day: Harbaugh resigning with Michigan through 2026
Could today get any better? I submit to you that it cannot!
Story of the Day: Harbaugh resigning with Michigan through 2026
Could today get any better? I submit to you that it cannot!
Well.....it is good for him, for perhaps, despite my previous attestations, I do not believe that he would carry any gravitas if he were to search for an NFL job....or perhaps even another P5 job.
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Notre Dame if Brian Kelly leaves would get him to come back to college. Also it's not crazy to think if Ryan Day were to go to the NFL that Meyer would go back to OSU. Drake is no longer there and notre dame and osu were his dream jobs.
Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?
Why would you think Kelly would leave ND....or that Day would leave Ohio St.?
NFL for both
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Story of the Day: Harbaugh resigning with Michigan through 2026
Could today get any better? I submit to you that it cannot!
Well.....it is good for him, for perhaps, despite my previous attestations, I do not believe that he would carry any gravitas if he were to search for an NFL job....or perhaps even another P5 job.
Well.....it is good for him, for perhaps, despite my previous attestations, I do not believe that he would carry any gravitas if he were to search for an NFL job....or perhaps even another P5 job.
You'd be very incorrect, but I know I'm not going to get through the "rah rah Ohio!" bias wall that you have.
If you think no one in the NFL would be interested in a coach with the 5th best NFL winning percentage of all time, that led his team to 3 straight NFC title games, you'd be incorrect.
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Well.....it is good for him, for perhaps, despite my previous attestations, I do not believe that he would carry any gravitas if he were to search for an NFL job....or perhaps even another P5 job.
You'd be very incorrect, but I know I'm not going to get through the "rah rah Ohio!" bias wall that you have.
If you think no one in the NFL would be interested in a coach with the 5th best NFL winning percentage of all time, that led his team to 3 straight NFC title games, you'd be incorrect.
You'd be very incorrect, but I know I'm not going to get through the "rah rah Ohio!" bias wall that you have.
If you think no one in the NFL would be interested in a coach with the 5th best NFL winning percentage of all time, that led his team to 3 straight NFC title games, you'd be incorrect.
You would think so, wouldn't you. But no. A sparkler burns bright, but then burns out, yet some people still remember the thrill of the sparkle thereafter. You are living on remembrance.
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Your argument was that he is better suited for college, which could certainly be true. But guys like Urban (not meaning that negative at all) aren't just going to go anywhere. I'll explain it like this: Saban, Sweeney, Day, Kelly, Fisher, etc. Aren't going to go somewhere they don't have a chance to immediately compete for a championship in college. It's different in the NFL because of how those jobs are looked at. And it is not like Urban is out of a job. He is handsomely rewarded for his currently.
And before you point out that all these guys already have jobs, something anyone can see, Fisher left FSU 3 years removed from a CFP appearance and 4 from a championship.
And again, there is the HUGE part of getting the most sought after recruits, and that is much harder to do at a school like Arizona. Yes Urban was a great recruiter, but part of his (and the other top guys) getting the guys is the university, tradition, and exposure they get at them. This is a big reason why Herman is gone at Texas even with a pretty good record. He annually got Top 10 classes and then underperformed.
Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?
Well, then, what programs may he go to? Or I guess you are saying that none of the ones that may open up are prestigious enough to attract him......leaving the NFL as basically his only option.....and challenge?
You answered your own question. Why would someone take a lesser job?
Whatever reason (all above board or not) you want to attribute to UM leaving schools, he has absolutely improved his situation every time. He didn't leave anywhere because he was struggling.
So since you like your history, go ahead and name a coach who "traded down" jobs when they weren't let go at the previous?
If you want a comparison with UM currently, use Gruden. He had a very nice high paying job in the booth. 10 years between coaching jobs. Do you really think that Raiders was the only opportunity he had in those 10 years?
You would think so, wouldn't you. But no. A sparkler burns bright, but then burns out, yet some people still remember the thrill of the sparkle thereafter. You are living on remembrance.
This is just obvious OSU bias Gipper, or at the very least just disliking Harbaugh. He is routinely talked about for NFL jobs.
While I don't think he is the best candidate for any of these jobs, there is no denying the success he had in the NFL. There also is no denying that he seems to wear out his welcome quickly.
Take out this year, as should be done with any Big 10 and Pac 12 with the number of games played. Two losing records (both at Stanford) in 12 years in college. 0 losing records in NFL. Total record of 151-68-1. 72% win percentage.
I swear it is personal feelings/judgments based on rivalries that gets you on these tangents that are based in anything but facts and then you go full defend position no matter what.
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