2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.
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I think I was accidentally putting it in the link spot, and not just pasting it on here.
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WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask.
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WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask.
WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask.
Trask would be a good pick for them.
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WalterFootball's more recent mock draft has the Browns taking WR Jaylen Waddle in Round 1, and the Steelers getting their QB of the future with Florida's Kyle Trask.
Trask would be a good pick for them.
Trask would be a good pick for them.
Definitely in the Big Ben mold...
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Someone on another thread mentioned McCarron...the former Alabama QB. The name Greg McElroy also comes to mind. Then there are the likes of Tua and Hurts...other Alabama or former Bama QBs.
Which brings also to my mind this Mac Jones. Impressive stats for East Germany.....but then all these other guys came from there as well.
I understand he is a favorite, or one of them for the Heisman.
So, for the so called experts on here.....is there really anything about this guy to differentiate him from the other Bama QBs such that he could actually be said in the same breath as Starr/Namath/Stabler......or is he a McCarron or McElroy type.
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PFF is a bit of a fan of mac jones - but that link and 3 bucks will buy you a coffee.
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Jones reminds me of McCarron... a very functional cog in the BAMA machine.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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On slight off topic note:
I thought the defense battled yesterday. We missed some tackles didn’t pressure a lot but I thought they played well with what they had...changes are coming and those changes will probably come via draft. We need to upgrade speed and maybe find an interior pass rusher and coverage guys of course.
Now the off topic: Mack Wilson film study from the end of 2019-to present day. Might be the worst tape you will see- any takers? It surprises me that he played under Saban. -
Hilliard backpedaled in the first half, read a screen, split 2 blockers and still put the RB down for minimal gain.. Yeah, if he's still available in rd4, he's a good get.
And the TFL to close out Q3. Hot.
Figured I'd see you in this thread at some point. Yes, I was thinking that when watching it live. Hilliard is a high upside LB with great athletic ability who has had an up and down career. But he's playing into a day 3 pick.
Figured I'd see you in this thread at some point. Yes, I was thinking that when watching it live. Hilliard is a high upside LB with great athletic ability who has had an up and down career. But he's playing into a day 3 pick.
He has had an up and down career due to injury though. When he has gotten on the field the guy has played phenomenally. There are a lot of defensive guys who have been big in the last three games but I think Hilliard has had one of the biggest impacts. I'm so happy for the kid also. He never quit and I really hope he does get drafted by some team.
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Jones reminds me of McCarron... a very functional cog in the BAMA machine.
Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron. By a decent amount, to be honest.
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Figured I'd see you in this thread at some point. Yes, I was thinking that when watching it live. Hilliard is a high upside LB with great athletic ability who has had an up and down career. But he's playing into a day 3 pick.
He has had an up and down career due to injury though. When he has gotten on the field the guy has played phenomenally. There are a lot of defensive guys who have been big in the last three games but I think Hilliard has had one of the biggest impacts. I'm so happy for the kid also. He never quit and I really hope he does get drafted by some team.
He has had an up and down career due to injury though. When he has gotten on the field the guy has played phenomenally. There are a lot of defensive guys who have been big in the last three games but I think Hilliard has had one of the biggest impacts. I'm so happy for the kid also. He never quit and I really hope he does get drafted by some team.
Well aware, but your best ability is availability. Hilliards medical history is a big concern.
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Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron. By a decent amount, to be honest.
I’m impressed by his ball placement. The handful of Bama games I watched he gives his WRs, Backs and TEs every opportunity to YAC it up by putting the ball perfectly in a spot where they can catch and run.
But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline.
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Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron. By a decent amount, to be honest.
I’m impressed by his ball placement. The handful of Bama games I watched he gives his WRs, Backs and TEs every opportunity to YAC it up by putting the ball perfectly in a spot where they can catch and run.
But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline.
But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline.
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
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But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline.
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
Shane Falco.
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But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline.
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
One of the reasons why I love small(er) school QBs. At least, schools that don't have a pool of 5* talent around their QB. Makes it a bit easier to see who really is the one elevating the play of the offenses.
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But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline.
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
Mike Tomsczak is the best by far that came out of OSU. Played 15 years in the league. But mostly as a backup.
Passing
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 185 73 42-31-0 1248 2337 53.4 16079 88 3.8 106 4.5 303 85 6.9 5.6 12.9 86.9 68.9 114 809 6.23 5.00 4.7 6 12 55 7 yrs PIT 84 27 15-12-0 546 973 56.1 6649 37 3.8 43 4.4 303 84 6.8 5.6 12.2 79.2 71.6 50 345 6.16 4.99 4.9 1 5 22 6 yrs CHI 77 31 21-10-0 454 915 49.6 6247 33 3.6 47 5.1 0 85 6.8 5.2 13.8 81.1 62.5 39 274 6.26 4.74 4.1 4 6 21 1 yr CLE 12 8 4-4-0 120 211 56.9 1693 7 3.3 7 3.3 0 52 8.0 7.2 14.1 141.1 80.1 12 85 7.21 6.43 5.4 1 1 7 1 yr GNB 12 7 2-5-0 128 238 53.8 1490 11 4.6 9 3.8 0 75 6.3 5.5 11.6 124.2 72.6 13 105 5.52 4.78 5.2 5 1985 23 CHI 18 6 0 2 6 33.3 33 0 0.0 0 0.0 24 5.5 5.5 16.5 5.5 52.8 0 0 5.50 5.50 0.0 0 1986 24 CHI QB 18 13 7 7-0-0 74 151 49.0 1105 2 1.3 10 6.6 85 7.3 4.6 14.9 85.0 50.2 4 30 6.94 4.29 2.6 2 3 3 1987 25 CHI qb 18 12 6 4-2-0 97 178 54.5 1220 5 2.8 10 5.6 56 6.9 4.9 12.6 101.7 62.0 9 59 6.21 4.34 4.8 1 2 4 1988 26 CHI qb 18 14 5 4-1-0 86 170 50.6 1310 7 4.1 6 3.5 76 7.7 6.9 15.2 93.6 75.4 5 47 7.22 6.47 2.9 5 1989 27 CHI QB 18 16 11 5-6-0 156 306 51.0 2058 16 5.2 16 5.2 79 6.7 5.4 13.2 128.6 68.2 10 68 6.30 5.03 3.2 1 1 7 1990 28 CHI 18 16 2 1-1-0 39 104 37.5 521 3 2.9 5 4.8 48 5.0 3.4 13.4 32.6 43.8 11 70 3.92 2.49 9.6 2 1991 29 GNB qb 18 12 7 2-5-0 128 238 53.8 1490 11 4.6 9 3.8 75 6.3 5.5 11.6 124.2 72.6 13 105 5.52 4.78 5.2 5 1992 30 CLE QB 18 12 8 4-4-0 120 211 56.9 1693 7 3.3 7 3.3 52 8.0 7.2 14.1 141.1 80.1 12 85 7.21 6.43 5.4 1 1 7 1993 31 PIT 18 7 1 0-1-0 29 54 53.7 398 2 3.7 5 9.3 39 7.4 3.9 13.7 56.9 51.3 7 43 5.82 2.79 11.5 1 1994 32 PIT 18 6 2 2-0-0 54 93 58.1 804 4 4.3 0 0.0 34 84 8.6 9.5 14.9 134.0 100.8 4 33 7.95 8.77 4.1 1 2 2 1995 33 PIT 18 7 4 2-2-0 65 113 57.5 666 1 0.9 9 8.0 34 29 5.9 2.5 10.2 95.1 44.3 6 42 5.24 2.01 5.0 0 1 2 1996 34 PIT QB 18 16 15 10-5-0 222 401 55.4 2767 15 3.7 17 4.2 135 70 6.9 5.7 12.5 172.9 71.8 16 105 6.38 5.27 3.8 0 2 9 1997 35 PIT 18 16 0 16 24 66.7 185 1 4.2 2 8.3 13 28 7.7 4.8 11.6 11.6 68.9 0 0 7.71 4.79 0.0 1 1998 36 PIT 18 16 0 21 30 70.0 204 2 6.7 2 6.7 9 42 6.8 5.1 9.7 12.8 83.2 2 18 5.81 4.25 6.3 1 1999 37 PIT qb 18 16 5 1-4-0 139 258 53.9 1625 12 4.7 8 3.1 78 49 6.3 5.8 11.7 101.6 75.8 15 104 5.57 5.13 5.5 6 -
That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
One of the reasons why I love small(er) school QBs. At least, schools that don't have a pool of 5* talent around their QB. Makes it a bit easier to see who really is the one elevating the play of the offenses.
One of the reasons why I love small(er) school QBs. At least, schools that don't have a pool of 5* talent around their QB. Makes it a bit easier to see who really is the one elevating the play of the offenses.
Yep-I learned that lesson from some guy in the NFL that played at La.Tech which was close to his HS in Shreveport.
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That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?
Shane Falco.
Shane Falco.
Oh, I remember him!!?
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What about this Nick Bolton LB from Mizzou.
I have seen several mocks having the Browns take him.
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