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  • Jones reminds me of McCarron... a very functional cog in the BAMA machine.

    @tour2ma said:

    Jones reminds me of McCarron... a very functional cog in the BAMA machine.

    Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron.   By a decent amount, to be honest.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Figured I'd see you in this thread at some point.  Yes, I was thinking that when watching it live.  Hilliard is a high upside LB with great athletic ability who has had an up and down career.  But he's playing into a day 3 pick.  

    He has had an up and down career due to injury though.  When he has gotten on the field the guy has played phenomenally. There are a lot of defensive guys who have been big in the last three games but I think Hilliard has had one of the biggest impacts. I'm so happy for the kid also. He never quit and I really hope he does get drafted by some team. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    He has had an up and down career due to injury though.  When he has gotten on the field the guy has played phenomenally. There are a lot of defensive guys who have been big in the last three games but I think Hilliard has had one of the biggest impacts. I'm so happy for the kid also. He never quit and I really hope he does get drafted by some team. 

    Well aware, but your best ability is availability.  Hilliards medical history is a big concern.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Jones reminds me of McCarron... a very functional cog in the BAMA machine.

    Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron.   By a decent amount, to be honest.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron.   By a decent amount, to be honest.

    I’m impressed by his ball placement.  The handful of Bama games I watched he gives his WRs, Backs and TEs every opportunity to YAC it up by putting the ball perfectly in a spot where they can catch and run.  
     

    But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Maybe it's just me... I'm higher on Jones than I was McCarron.   By a decent amount, to be honest.

    I’m impressed by his ball placement.  The handful of Bama games I watched he gives his WRs, Backs and TEs every opportunity to YAC it up by putting the ball perfectly in a spot where they can catch and run.  
     

    But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline. 

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline. 

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    @texasag1969 said:

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    Shane Falco. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline. 

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    @texasag1969 said:

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    One of the reasons why I love small(er) school QBs.   At least, schools that don't have a pool of 5* talent around their QB.   Makes it a bit easier to see who really is the one elevating the play of the offenses.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    But I want to see how he handles a little pressure in his face...getting off his spot...it’s coming with OSUs interior dline. 

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    @texasag1969 said:

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    Mike Tomsczak is the best by far that came out of OSU.  Played 15 years in the league.  But mostly as a backup.

    Passing

     
     
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
    Career       185 73 42-31-0 1248 2337 53.4 16079 88 3.8 106 4.5 303 85 6.9 5.6 12.9 86.9 68.9 114 809 6.23 5.00 4.7 6 12 55
    7 yrs PIT     84 27 15-12-0 546 973 56.1 6649 37 3.8 43 4.4 303 84 6.8 5.6 12.2 79.2 71.6 50 345 6.16 4.99 4.9 1 5 22
    6 yrs CHI     77 31 21-10-0 454 915 49.6 6247 33 3.6 47 5.1 0 85 6.8 5.2 13.8 81.1 62.5 39 274 6.26 4.74 4.1 4 6 21
    1 yr CLE     12 8 4-4-0 120 211 56.9 1693 7 3.3 7 3.3 0 52 8.0 7.2 14.1 141.1 80.1 12 85 7.21 6.43 5.4 1 1 7
    1 yr GNB     12 7 2-5-0 128 238 53.8 1490 11 4.6 9 3.8 0 75 6.3 5.5 11.6 124.2 72.6 13 105 5.52 4.78 5.2     5
    1985 23 CHI   18 6 0   2 6 33.3 33 0 0.0 0 0.0   24 5.5 5.5 16.5 5.5 52.8 0 0 5.50 5.50 0.0     0
    1986 24 CHI QB 18 13 7 7-0-0 74 151 49.0 1105 2 1.3 10 6.6   85 7.3 4.6 14.9 85.0 50.2 4 30 6.94 4.29 2.6 2 3 3
    1987 25 CHI qb 18 12 6 4-2-0 97 178 54.5 1220 5 2.8 10 5.6   56 6.9 4.9 12.6 101.7 62.0 9 59 6.21 4.34 4.8 1 2 4
    1988 26 CHI qb 18 14 5 4-1-0 86 170 50.6 1310 7 4.1 6 3.5   76 7.7 6.9 15.2 93.6 75.4 5 47 7.22 6.47 2.9     5
    1989 27 CHI QB 18 16 11 5-6-0 156 306 51.0 2058 16 5.2 16 5.2   79 6.7 5.4 13.2 128.6 68.2 10 68 6.30 5.03 3.2 1 1 7
    1990 28 CHI   18 16 2 1-1-0 39 104 37.5 521 3 2.9 5 4.8   48 5.0 3.4 13.4 32.6 43.8 11 70 3.92 2.49 9.6     2
    1991 29 GNB qb 18 12 7 2-5-0 128 238 53.8 1490 11 4.6 9 3.8   75 6.3 5.5 11.6 124.2 72.6 13 105 5.52 4.78 5.2     5
    1992 30 CLE QB 18 12 8 4-4-0 120 211 56.9 1693 7 3.3 7 3.3   52 8.0 7.2 14.1 141.1 80.1 12 85 7.21 6.43 5.4 1 1 7
    1993 31 PIT   18 7 1 0-1-0 29 54 53.7 398 2 3.7 5 9.3   39 7.4 3.9 13.7 56.9 51.3 7 43 5.82 2.79 11.5     1
    1994 32 PIT   18 6 2 2-0-0 54 93 58.1 804 4 4.3 0 0.0 34 84 8.6 9.5 14.9 134.0 100.8 4 33 7.95 8.77 4.1 1 2 2
    1995 33 PIT   18 7 4 2-2-0 65 113 57.5 666 1 0.9 9 8.0 34 29 5.9 2.5 10.2 95.1 44.3 6 42 5.24 2.01 5.0 0 1 2
    1996 34 PIT QB 18 16 15 10-5-0 222 401 55.4 2767 15 3.7 17 4.2 135 70 6.9 5.7 12.5 172.9 71.8 16 105 6.38 5.27 3.8 0 2 9
    1997 35 PIT   18 16 0   16 24 66.7 185 1 4.2 2 8.3 13 28 7.7 4.8 11.6 11.6 68.9 0 0 7.71 4.79 0.0     1
    1998 36 PIT   18 16 0   21 30 70.0 204 2 6.7 2 6.7 9 42 6.8 5.1 9.7 12.8 83.2 2 18 5.81 4.25 6.3     1
    1999 37 PIT qb 18 16 5 1-4-0 139 258 53.9 1625 12 4.7 8 3.1 78 49 6.3 5.8 11.7 101.6 75.8 15 104 5.57 5.13 5.5     6
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  • @texasag1969 said:

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    One of the reasons why I love small(er) school QBs.   At least, schools that don't have a pool of 5* talent around their QB.   Makes it a bit easier to see who really is the one elevating the play of the offenses.

    @tiamat63 said:

    One of the reasons why I love small(er) school QBs.   At least, schools that don't have a pool of 5* talent around their QB.   Makes it a bit easier to see who really is the one elevating the play of the offenses.

    Yep-I learned that lesson from some guy in the NFL that played at La.Tech which was close to his HS in Shreveport.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    That is the concern I have always had about both Bama and OSU QB's. They both are surrounded by 5* and high 4* HS best in states they come from players, so against most teams they play the QBs are not pressured that much. Willie Joe is one of the few who was able to make it decently in the NFL. along with Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler, all Bama players. Tom Tupa from OSU was decent too......................as a punter. Am I missing any other OSU QB who was decent in the NFL?

    Shane Falco. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Shane Falco. 

    Oh, I remember him!!?

  • What about this Nick Bolton    LB from Mizzou.

    I have seen several mocks having the Browns take him.

  • I'm still on a drafting break 🙂 

    x7qlsthltbhurku3fnel.png watching ?... quite please ?

    uchzdau3il2x23ynypio.png  Hi Tia! ?  Go Bucks!

  • I'm still on a drafting break 🙂 

    x7qlsthltbhurku3fnel.png watching ?... quite please ?

    uchzdau3il2x23ynypio.png  Hi Tia! ?  Go Bucks!

    @gumby73 said:

    I'm still on a drafting break 🙂 

    x7qlsthltbhurku3fnel.png watching ?... quite please ?

    uchzdau3il2x23ynypio.png  Hi Tia! ?  Go Bucks!

    Speaking of Kay...major appearance change yesterday-  face paint eye shadow.  Didn’t look like the 30 something next door anymore 

  • @gumby73 said:

    I'm still on a drafting break 🙂 

    x7qlsthltbhurku3fnel.png watching ?... quite please ?

    uchzdau3il2x23ynypio.png  Hi Tia! ?  Go Bucks!

    Speaking of Kay...major appearance change yesterday-  face paint eye shadow.  Didn’t look like the 30 something next door anymore 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Speaking of Kay...major appearance change yesterday-  face paint eye shadow.  Didn’t look like the 30 something next door anymore 

    My boo could wear Cherokee warpaint, a onesie and rain boots...  And I wouldn't give a damn.     

  • What about this Nick Bolton    LB from Mizzou.

    I have seen several mocks having the Browns take him.

    @the-gipper said:

    What about this Nick Bolton    LB from Mizzou.

    I have seen several mocks having the Browns take him.

    I really like this guy.  

  • Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
    7:25 PM · Jan 7, 2021
    Barrett Sallee 🇺🇸@BarrettSallee
    Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
     
     
     
    That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers 😁... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...
     
     
     
     
     
       MLB - Clemson- James Skalski is returning to Clemson 🥷
  • the squealers will be so disappointed.

  • Time to start compiling tape list of award finalist candidates... announced WINNERS are in BOLD

    IOMEDIA KITSPROGRAMMINGAB

    Finalists Announced for ESPN’s 30th Annual The Home Depot College Football Awards

    • Show Set for Thursday, Jan. 7, at 7 p.m. ET, on ESPN

    The finalists have been named for the National College Football Awards Association (NCFAA) honors presented at The Home Depot College Football Awards. This year’s awards show will be presented virtually on Thursday, Jan. 7, at 7 p.m. ET, on ESPN. ESPN’s Rece Davis will host the 90-minute special, joined by reporter Holly Rowe.

    The Home Depot College Football Awards Finalists

    NCFAA awards announced during The Home Depot College Football Awards:

    Chuck Bednarik Award
    College Defensive Player of the Year
    Zaven Collins, Tulsa (Jr.)
    Jeremiah Oswusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame (Sr.) Patrick Surtain II, Alabama (Jr.)
    Biletnikoff Award
    Outstanding Receiver
    Elijah Moore, Ole Miss (Jr.)
    Kyle Pitts, Florida (Jr.)
    DeVonta Smith, Alabama (Sr.)
    Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award
    Nation’s Outstanding Placekicker
    Jose Borregales, Miami (Sr.)
    Jake Oldroyd, BYU (So.)
    Will Reichard, Alabama (So.)
    Ray Guy Award
    College Punter of the Year
    Jake Camarda, Georgia (Jr.)
    Pressley Harvin III, Georgia Tech (Sr.)
    Lou Hedley, Miami (Jr.)
    Maxwell Award
    College Player of the Year
    Mac Jones, Alabama (Jr.)
    Trevor Lawrence, Clemson (Jr.)
    DeVonta Smith, Alabama (Sr.)
    Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award
    Nation’s Best Quarterback
    Mac Jones, Alabama (Jr.)
    Trevor Lawrence, Clemson (Jr.)
    Kyle Trask, Florida (Sr.)
    Outland Trophy
    Nation’s Most Outstanding Interior Lineman
    Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame (Gr.)
    Alex Leatherwood, Alabama (Sr.)
    Daviyon Nixon, Iowa (Jr.)
    Paycom Jim Thorpe Award
    Nation’s Best Defensive Back
    Richie Grant, UCF (Sr.)
    Trevon Moehrig, TCU (Jr.)
    Patrick Surtain II, Alabama (Jr.)
    Doak Walker Award
    Nation’s Premier Running Back
    Travis Etienne, Clemson (Sr.)
    Breece Hall, Iowa State (So.)
    Najee Harris, Alabama (Sr.)

    Butkus Award

    Best Linebacker

    Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame (Nick Bolton-MS/Zaven Collins-Tulsa/Devin LLoyd-Utah/Monty Rice-Georgia)

    Additional honors recognized during The Home Depot College Football Awards:

    The Home Depot Coach of the Year Winner announced January 5
    William V. Campbell Trophy Presented By Mazda
    Scholar-Athlete 
    Full list of finalists available here.
    Disney Spirit Award
    Most Inspirational Player or Team 
    Darien Rencher, Clemson (Sr.)
    The Allstate AFCA Good Works Team Team Captain: Telton Saltes, New Mexico (Sr.)
    Full list of team members available here.
    Walter Camp All America Team   Full team announced on January 7.
    John Mackey Award
    Outstanding Tight End 
    Charlie Kolar, Iowa State (Jr.)
    Kyle Pitts, Florida (Jr.)
    Jalen Wydermyer, Texas A&M (So.)
    Rimington Trophy
    Outstanding Center 
    Landon Dickerson, Alabama (Sr.)
    Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa (So.)
    Josh Myers, Ohio State (Jr.)
    Wuerffel Trophy
    Community Service
    Sam Ehlinger, Texas (Sr.)
    Teton Saltes, New Mexico (Sr.)
    Shai Werts, Georgia Southern (Sr.)

    Other awards given this postseason:

    Broyles Award
    Assistant Coach of the Year
    Marcus Freeman, Cincinnati
    Jeff Grimes, BYU
    Mike Hankwitz, Northwestern
    Steve Sarkisian, Alabama
    Kane Wommack, Indiana
    Burlsworth Trophy
    College football’s most outstanding player who began his career as a walk-on
    Dax Milne, BYU (Jr.)
    Grant Morgan, Arkansas (Sr.)
    Jimmy Morrissey, Pitt (Sr.)

          https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-awards-complete-list-of-all-winners-for-2020-21-season/

    Senior bowl 22 days away.. Underclassmen have 10 days to declare if* by the 18th..

    Tracker Time.. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-draft-underclassmen-tracker-college-football-players-leaving-early/

  • I see that Collins of Tulsa won for LBs. He may still be on the board when we pick. And there is my Aggie TE up for Mackey Award, the soph I was telling you about for 2022 draft was in the final 3 along with two Juniors. Pitts deserved it and I doubt he will still be there past top 10. And Safety Moehrig won the DBs award. He might still be there for us, a big "Might" though. Surprised he got it over Surtain.

  • Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
    7:25 PM · Jan 7, 2021
    Barrett Sallee 🇺🇸@BarrettSallee
    Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
     
     
     
    That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers 😁... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...
     
     
     
     
     
       MLB - Clemson- James Skalski is returning to Clemson 🥷

    @gumby73 said:

    That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers 😁... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...

    Doesn't the NCAA still kick from the 3?

  • Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
    7:25 PM · Jan 7, 2021
    Barrett Sallee 🇺🇸@BarrettSallee
    Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
     
     
     
    That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers 😁... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...
     
     
     
     
     
       MLB - Clemson- James Skalski is returning to Clemson 🥷

    @gumby73 said:

    Miami K Jose Borregales is the winner of the Lou Groza Award
     
    That's all the time I will be spending on draft eligible placekickers 😁... find a way..  4 yr. Career X-points- 168 of 171...
     
     
     
     
     
       MLB - Clemson- James Skalski is returning to Clemson 🥷

    Unless we are looking at the next Justin Tucker (I don’t know if that is the case maybe it is). 

    I would prefer to hold a workout on a windy May evening and take a free agent rookie or even a vet that can handle our stadium.