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  • What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    @tour2ma said:

    What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    would give time to have a chance to get out HC and players back.

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    As for when players can return to the team, it depends. Below is the NFL's wording on its rules for players returning from COVID-19 cases.

    Following a positive test, if the player is asymptomatic, he can return once:

    • 10 days have passed since the initial positive test; OR
    • Five days have passed since the initial positive test and the player receives two consecutive negative PCR virus tests at least 24 hours apart within that five-day period

    Following a positive test, if the player demonstrates symptoms, he can return once:

    • At least 10 days have passed since symptoms first appeared; AND
    • At least 72 hours have passed since he last experienced symptoms

    In either case, a player who tests positive must be cleared by his team's head physician before returning.

  • It's only Tuesday. If it follows the same formula, more people will be struck down either as close contacts or God forbid positive for the virus. Hopefully we can practice safely this week because we need it. 

    I'm speechless. Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair. 

  • What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    @tour2ma said:

    What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    On top of that question, I will add another statement:

    Comparing the situation now to weeks ago for say Baltimore and Pittsburgh is a lot different. They actually had time built in (i.e. more weeks), AND the outcome of the games didn't effect the preparation for others.

    Let's just assume that the favorites win their games this weekend; remaining teams would be:

    1. Chiefs 2. Bills 5. Ravens; the outcome of the Browns/Steelers effects every one of those. 

    I'm not saying that the NFL shouldn't explore options, even moving everything back. But to just act as if they are the same is very short sighted.

    As for Gippers idea (no offense, but you are posting like this is a novel idea that you came up with), but anyway...

    In my opinion, those almost have to be done in Green Bay and Kansas City. Those teams were of the impression that they would be at home throughout playoffs. If you take that away, you are then taking away an advantage they earned. Yes, I understand that this is a serious pandemic and a very unusual situation, but it is also much different than the NBA and MLB. Those had much more time to decide on it, and also didn't have to factor in weather, and also much smaller groups. 

    I think it is way too late to institute a full bubble. I think the best that could hope for (and still not exactly an easy thing) is a mandatory quarantine for every remaining team. That would mean only around other football personnel. And ideally that would mean ONLY virtual meetings. 

  • However, the ratbirds said they needed time to practice for "safety reasons" and the NFL complied.

    https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/11/nfl-coronavirus-outbreak-ravens-steelers-game-postponed-to-wednesday-amid-covid-19-cases.html

    From the #Ravens players-only meeting, two main points: — They want to play. — Health and safety has to come first. Once source in the meeting asked, “Can’t we have at least two days of negative tests after this outbreak before we are expected to get back on the field?”

    Earlier today, Schefter reported that the “NFL canceled (the) Ravens practice scheduled for this morning, per league source. Ravens last practiced the Saturday before the Titans’ game.” The Ravens hosted the Tennessee Titans on Nov. 22, some eight days ago.

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    NFL cancelled Ravens practice scheduled for this morning, per league source. Ravens last practiced the Saturday before the Titans’ game and currently are scheduled to play in Pittsburgh on Tuesday night.

    Ravens’ travel plans in flux, with snow forecasted in Pitt on Tuesday am.

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        just doesn't sound right - the NFL did that back then. so......

  • What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea. 

    The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month. 

  • So much for this fucking game.

    The last game should have been postponed.   They all got it because they were forced to all be together for that game.

    Fucking NFL.  I suspect their attitude is "it's just the Browns...no big deal".    But what if it now becomes  the Chiefs or the Packers...or someone the league cares about?

    What did I say about the NFL  needing to  "Bubble".  

    Of course, you also have to ask:  WTF is going on over there. They have seemed to have had more trouble than anyone else. 

    @the-gipper said:

    So much for this fucking game.

    The last game should have been postponed.   They all got it because they were forced to all be together for that game.

    Fucking NFL.  I suspect their attitude is "it's just the Browns...no big deal".    But what if it now becomes  the Chiefs or the Packers...or someone the league cares about?

    What did I say about the NFL  needing to  "Bubble".  

    Of course, you also have to ask:  WTF is going on over there. They have seemed to have had more trouble than anyone else. 

    oh fuck enough of that shit denver had to play without a qb and the sints didnt have their running backs and their games were still played as scheduled  also wasnt lamar jackson out for the pit game ?

  • If the NFL had brains (GOD-ell)... They would push the playoffs back 2 weeks and let teams get healthy instead of thinking about their schedule and pocket books...

    @nickers said:

    If the NFL had brains (GOD-ell)... They would push the playoffs back 2 weeks and let teams get healthy instead of thinking about their schedule and pocket books...

    even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse

  • It's only Tuesday. If it follows the same formula, more people will be struck down either as close contacts or God forbid positive for the virus. Hopefully we can practice safely this week because we need it. 

    I'm speechless. Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair.

    agree sucks for him all the years here and he gets the flu and can not play 

  • What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea. 

    The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea. 

    The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month. 

    is it the entire state of Ohio ? hearing there may be a problem with the Buckeye game monday night

  • Just Bito... so far...

    @tour2ma said:

    Just Bito... so far...

    exactly no idea why people are losing thier  heads I was expecting  alot of pro set this sunday anyway just stick to the game plan

  • @dutch-oven said:

    What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea. 

    The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month. 

    is it the entire state of Ohio ? hearing there may be a problem with the Buckeye game monday night

    @atom said:

    is it the entire state of Ohio ? hearing there may be a problem with the Buckeye game monday night

    Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher 

  • @atom said:

    is it the entire state of Ohio ? hearing there may be a problem with the Buckeye game monday night

    Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher 

    so this shit is to be expected  you know the next thing im gonna hear from gipper is that covid is a nfl conspiracy to keep the Browns out of the super bowl 

  • @nickers said:

    If the NFL had brains (GOD-ell)... They would push the playoffs back 2 weeks and let teams get healthy instead of thinking about their schedule and pocket books...

    even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse

    @atom said:

    even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse

    Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact. 
     

    Case in point Haden got it outside the facility. 

  • @atom said:

    even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse

    Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact. 
     

    Case in point Haden got it outside the facility. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact. 
     

    Case in point Haden got it outside the facility. 

    good point but I believe it is to late for that 

  • What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    @tour2ma said:

    What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    Hello!  McFly?  Is anybody home?   Pay attention. 

    We are talking about putting all the playoff teams in a bubble during that time...to assure no outside exposure.   It worked for the NHL and the NBA.   And that is just what the NCAA is doing with all 68 of the college basketball teams that will be part of March Madness. 

  • It's only Tuesday. If it follows the same formula, more people will be struck down either as close contacts or God forbid positive for the virus. Hopefully we can practice safely this week because we need it. 

    I'm speechless. Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    It's only Tuesday. If it follows the same formula, more people will be struck down either as close contacts or God forbid positive for the virus. Hopefully we can practice safely this week because we need it. 

    I'm speechless. Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair. 

    More people for a number of teams.

  • @tour2ma said:

    What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?

    On top of that question, I will add another statement:

    Comparing the situation now to weeks ago for say Baltimore and Pittsburgh is a lot different. They actually had time built in (i.e. more weeks), AND the outcome of the games didn't effect the preparation for others.

    Let's just assume that the favorites win their games this weekend; remaining teams would be:

    1. Chiefs 2. Bills 5. Ravens; the outcome of the Browns/Steelers effects every one of those. 

    I'm not saying that the NFL shouldn't explore options, even moving everything back. But to just act as if they are the same is very short sighted.

    As for Gippers idea (no offense, but you are posting like this is a novel idea that you came up with), but anyway...

    In my opinion, those almost have to be done in Green Bay and Kansas City. Those teams were of the impression that they would be at home throughout playoffs. If you take that away, you are then taking away an advantage they earned. Yes, I understand that this is a serious pandemic and a very unusual situation, but it is also much different than the NBA and MLB. Those had much more time to decide on it, and also didn't have to factor in weather, and also much smaller groups. 

    I think it is way too late to institute a full bubble. I think the best that could hope for (and still not exactly an easy thing) is a mandatory quarantine for every remaining team. That would mean only around other football personnel. And ideally that would mean ONLY virtual meetings. 

    @gunz41 said:

    On top of that question, I will add another statement:

    Comparing the situation now to weeks ago for say Baltimore and Pittsburgh is a lot different. They actually had time built in (i.e. more weeks), AND the outcome of the games didn't effect the preparation for others.

    Let's just assume that the favorites win their games this weekend; remaining teams would be:

    1. Chiefs 2. Bills 5. Ravens; the outcome of the Browns/Steelers effects every one of those. 

    I'm not saying that the NFL shouldn't explore options, even moving everything back. But to just act as if they are the same is very short sighted.

    As for Gippers idea (no offense, but you are posting like this is a novel idea that you came up with), but anyway...

    In my opinion, those almost have to be done in Green Bay and Kansas City. Those teams were of the impression that they would be at home throughout playoffs. If you take that away, you are then taking away an advantage they earned. Yes, I understand that this is a serious pandemic and a very unusual situation, but it is also much different than the NBA and MLB. Those had much more time to decide on it, and also didn't have to factor in weather, and also much smaller groups. 

    I think it is way too late to institute a full bubble. I think the best that could hope for (and still not exactly an easy thing) is a mandatory quarantine for every remaining team. That would mean only around other football personnel. And ideally that would mean ONLY virtual meetings. 

    Doing the bubble in  GB and KC would be fine with me.... great, crazy weather games.   But I doubt the NFL would want that out of weather concerns.  They would want domes or warm weather sites.  

    As for the timing....that is what the 2 week delay is supposed to be for.   I think it could be done logistically even with the greater number of players.   Have  2 sites with 7 teams each would certainly not be as difficult as what the NBA did in Orlando. 

    As for the  other leagues having more time to decide on it:    I think that just bespeaks of the NFL's failure to have a contingency plan in place.  A lack of foresight and vision.   Hell, my self and other shmoes on here thought of it long ago.  Why couldn't the brilliant minds of the NFL think of it?     What is that you say?  What brilliant minds?  OK, fair to say. 

  • @nickers said:

    If the NFL had brains (GOD-ell)... They would push the playoffs back 2 weeks and let teams get healthy instead of thinking about their schedule and pocket books...

    even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse

    @atom said:

    even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse

    Not if they were in a bubble. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher 

    so this shit is to be expected  you know the next thing im gonna hear from gipper is that covid is a nfl conspiracy to keep the Browns out of the super bowl 

    @atom said:

    so this shit is to be expected  you know the next thing im gonna hear from gipper is that covid is a nfl conspiracy to keep the Browns out of the super bowl 

    I didn't think about that.....but gee......thanks for the Idea!!

    No, actually, it is just what I said above.....a complete lack of foresight on their behalf by not having a contingency plan. 

    What would happen if Tom Brady,  Aaron Rodgers,  Derrick Henry.  Russell Wilson..Drew Brees  etc.   or a team's entire  WR/QB/RB corps comes down with it?  

    I predict something like the above will happen between now and Saturday.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact. 
     

    Case in point Haden got it outside the facility. 

    good point but I believe it is to late for that 

    @atom said:

    good point but I believe it is to late for that 

    Why?