Stefanski tests positive.
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What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea.
The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month.
is it the entire state of Ohio ? hearing there may be a problem with the Buckeye game monday night
is it the entire state of Ohio ? hearing there may be a problem with the Buckeye game monday night
Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher
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Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher
so this shit is to be expected you know the next thing im gonna hear from gipper is that covid is a nfl conspiracy to keep the Browns out of the super bowl
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even if you push it back 2 weeks thats 2 more weeks were someone else could catch it and spread it to even make it worse
Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact.
Case in point Haden got it outside the facility.
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Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact.
Case in point Haden got it outside the facility.
good point but I believe it is to late for that
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What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?
Hello! McFly? Is anybody home? Pay attention.
We are talking about putting all the playoff teams in a bubble during that time...to assure no outside exposure. It worked for the NHL and the NBA. And that is just what the NCAA is doing with all 68 of the college basketball teams that will be part of March Madness.
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It's only Tuesday. If it follows the same formula, more people will be struck down either as close contacts or God forbid positive for the virus. Hopefully we can practice safely this week because we need it.
I'm speechless. Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair.
It's only Tuesday. If it follows the same formula, more people will be struck down either as close contacts or God forbid positive for the virus. Hopefully we can practice safely this week because we need it.
I'm speechless. Literally had tears in my eyes for Bitonio. It's not fair.
More people for a number of teams.
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What makes people think pushing the playoffs back would help any team... including us?
On top of that question, I will add another statement:
Comparing the situation now to weeks ago for say Baltimore and Pittsburgh is a lot different. They actually had time built in (i.e. more weeks), AND the outcome of the games didn't effect the preparation for others.
Let's just assume that the favorites win their games this weekend; remaining teams would be:
1. Chiefs 2. Bills 5. Ravens; the outcome of the Browns/Steelers effects every one of those.
I'm not saying that the NFL shouldn't explore options, even moving everything back. But to just act as if they are the same is very short sighted.
As for Gippers idea (no offense, but you are posting like this is a novel idea that you came up with), but anyway...
In my opinion, those almost have to be done in Green Bay and Kansas City. Those teams were of the impression that they would be at home throughout playoffs. If you take that away, you are then taking away an advantage they earned. Yes, I understand that this is a serious pandemic and a very unusual situation, but it is also much different than the NBA and MLB. Those had much more time to decide on it, and also didn't have to factor in weather, and also much smaller groups.
I think it is way too late to institute a full bubble. I think the best that could hope for (and still not exactly an easy thing) is a mandatory quarantine for every remaining team. That would mean only around other football personnel. And ideally that would mean ONLY virtual meetings.
On top of that question, I will add another statement:
Comparing the situation now to weeks ago for say Baltimore and Pittsburgh is a lot different. They actually had time built in (i.e. more weeks), AND the outcome of the games didn't effect the preparation for others.
Let's just assume that the favorites win their games this weekend; remaining teams would be:
1. Chiefs 2. Bills 5. Ravens; the outcome of the Browns/Steelers effects every one of those.
I'm not saying that the NFL shouldn't explore options, even moving everything back. But to just act as if they are the same is very short sighted.
As for Gippers idea (no offense, but you are posting like this is a novel idea that you came up with), but anyway...
In my opinion, those almost have to be done in Green Bay and Kansas City. Those teams were of the impression that they would be at home throughout playoffs. If you take that away, you are then taking away an advantage they earned. Yes, I understand that this is a serious pandemic and a very unusual situation, but it is also much different than the NBA and MLB. Those had much more time to decide on it, and also didn't have to factor in weather, and also much smaller groups.
I think it is way too late to institute a full bubble. I think the best that could hope for (and still not exactly an easy thing) is a mandatory quarantine for every remaining team. That would mean only around other football personnel. And ideally that would mean ONLY virtual meetings.
Doing the bubble in GB and KC would be fine with me.... great, crazy weather games. But I doubt the NFL would want that out of weather concerns. They would want domes or warm weather sites.
As for the timing....that is what the 2 week delay is supposed to be for. I think it could be done logistically even with the greater number of players. Have 2 sites with 7 teams each would certainly not be as difficult as what the NBA did in Orlando.
As for the other leagues having more time to decide on it: I think that just bespeaks of the NFL's failure to have a contingency plan in place. A lack of foresight and vision. Hell, my self and other shmoes on here thought of it long ago. Why couldn't the brilliant minds of the NFL think of it? What is that you say? What brilliant minds? OK, fair to say.
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Ohio, in mid-December, was among 14 other states that had a positive rate of 15% or higher
so this shit is to be expected you know the next thing im gonna hear from gipper is that covid is a nfl conspiracy to keep the Browns out of the super bowl
so this shit is to be expected you know the next thing im gonna hear from gipper is that covid is a nfl conspiracy to keep the Browns out of the super bowl
I didn't think about that.....but gee......thanks for the Idea!!
No, actually, it is just what I said above.....a complete lack of foresight on their behalf by not having a contingency plan.
What would happen if Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Derrick Henry. Russell Wilson..Drew Brees etc. or a team's entire WR/QB/RB corps comes down with it?
I predict something like the above will happen between now and Saturday.
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Well a week or two pause and a hotel bubble at least stops outside contact.
Case in point Haden got it outside the facility.
good point but I believe it is to late for that
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Michael Dunn may end up being Sunday's hero on the oline.
Meanwhile, the game will go on, apparently.
Just like the NFL made the ratbirds and squealers go ahead and pla...
oh, wait. They had their games delayed....
Michael Dunn may end up being Sunday's hero on the oline.
Meanwhile, the game will go on, apparently.
Just like the NFL made the ratbirds and squealers go ahead and pla...
oh, wait. They had their games delayed....
It was Denver with a WR as QB they made play. I watched because I knew it would look like the original Mets. They did not disappoint. Kendall Hinton was one of nine for 13 yards. On the plus side he completed twice as many as that to their opponent. LOL!??
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Why?
how far do you expect them to push it back ? im sure that their are players outside now as we speak so even if we went into a bubble next week or the week after it could still be brought in
if there had been a bubble the plans should have been made months ago
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Why?
how far do you expect them to push it back ? im sure that their are players outside now as we speak so even if we went into a bubble next week or the week after it could still be brought in
if there had been a bubble the plans should have been made months ago
how far do you expect them to push it back ? im sure that their are players outside now as we speak so even if we went into a bubble next week or the week after it could still be brought in
We talked about 2 weeks. If anyone were brought in, it would have to be now so they could be in that bubble for 2 weeks. I mean, you bring your PS and injured list with you....unless you rule anyone out completely.
if there had been a bubble the plans should have been made months ago
DOH, uh, yea....see above. Wholly a lack of foresight. Wholly a failure to at least have that contingency plan. Still, I think it could be done. But yes, difficult.
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On top of that question, I will add another statement:
Comparing the situation now to weeks ago for say Baltimore and Pittsburgh is a lot different. They actually had time built in (i.e. more weeks), AND the outcome of the games didn't effect the preparation for others.
Let's just assume that the favorites win their games this weekend; remaining teams would be:
1. Chiefs 2. Bills 5. Ravens; the outcome of the Browns/Steelers effects every one of those.
I'm not saying that the NFL shouldn't explore options, even moving everything back. But to just act as if they are the same is very short sighted.
As for Gippers idea (no offense, but you are posting like this is a novel idea that you came up with), but anyway...
In my opinion, those almost have to be done in Green Bay and Kansas City. Those teams were of the impression that they would be at home throughout playoffs. If you take that away, you are then taking away an advantage they earned. Yes, I understand that this is a serious pandemic and a very unusual situation, but it is also much different than the NBA and MLB. Those had much more time to decide on it, and also didn't have to factor in weather, and also much smaller groups.
I think it is way too late to institute a full bubble. I think the best that could hope for (and still not exactly an easy thing) is a mandatory quarantine for every remaining team. That would mean only around other football personnel. And ideally that would mean ONLY virtual meetings.
Doing the bubble in GB and KC would be fine with me.... great, crazy weather games. But I doubt the NFL would want that out of weather concerns. They would want domes or warm weather sites.
As for the timing....that is what the 2 week delay is supposed to be for. I think it could be done logistically even with the greater number of players. Have 2 sites with 7 teams each would certainly not be as difficult as what the NBA did in Orlando.
As for the other leagues having more time to decide on it: I think that just bespeaks of the NFL's failure to have a contingency plan in place. A lack of foresight and vision. Hell, my self and other shmoes on here thought of it long ago. Why couldn't the brilliant minds of the NFL think of it? What is that you say? What brilliant minds? OK, fair to say.
Doing the bubble in GB and KC would be fine with me.... great, crazy weather games. But I doubt the NFL would want that out of weather concerns. They would want domes or warm weather sites.
As for the timing....that is what the 2 week delay is supposed to be for. I think it could be done logistically even with the greater number of players. Have 2 sites with 7 teams each would certainly not be as difficult as what the NBA did in Orlando.
As for the other leagues having more time to decide on it: I think that just bespeaks of the NFL's failure to have a contingency plan in place. A lack of foresight and vision. Hell, my self and other shmoes on here thought of it long ago. Why couldn't the brilliant minds of the NFL think of it? What is that you say? What brilliant minds? OK, fair to say.
Again, you actually thinking that they didn't explore it is delusional.
And no, doing it now would be a complete logistics nightmare.
But I am certainly not going to go into all of that.
All I will further comment, is just imagine how you would feel as a Chiefs or Packers player that EVERYTHING changes on you last minute and 90% of the advantage you EARNED is taken away.
Or even look at it in your orange colored glasses. I think everyone (even the Jets) would agree that if the Browns weren't without the WR that they would have won. Which would now have them sitting in 3rd and hosting. You think it would be right for NFL to take their EARNED PO game away?
Basically, I am saying that since a move doesn't make things worse for the Browns that you don't have another thought on it. But if it did, you would show more of an inclination to dive deeper, even if you came to the same conclusion.
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This is literally the only idea of Nickers that I've seen that was rational, made any sense, or was any good. A two week bubble would have allowed the whole league to heal from injury and specifically Covid. I wouldn't care if they played on St. Paddies day as long as everyone got an equal shot. The NFL hates us sooooooooooo much, so we will penciled in on Sunday, regardless of what's currently happening in Berea.
PS- this now confirms he acknowledges the corona virus actually exists, and isn't a democratic hoax. How the tides have turned...
That's what I said....Bubble Up. See the thread on that. A 2 week delay to implement it? Sure. And actually a 2 week delay would take them only to like President's Day, not St. Patty's for the Super Bowl.
That's what I said....Bubble Up. See the thread on that. A 2 week delay to implement it? Sure. And actually a 2 week delay would take them only to like President's Day, not St. Patty's for the Super Bowl.
The weird thing is the Sunday before President day is their ultimate goal because most people will be off the next day.
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What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea.
The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month.
What I'd like to know is what is going on in Berea.
The Browns have gone from being a model of how to successfully navigate Covid protocol for most of the season to what we've seen the last month.
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You all are about to catch some unwanted publicity from several years ago, this is circulating again. It's on reddit and i saw it on twitter. How the fuck do the Browns still have this dude as a coach? Yes people change but this wasn't all that long ago and that's a pretty fucking horrid thing to say.
https://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-player-until-i-was-fired-by-two-cowards-an-1493208214
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Doing the bubble in GB and KC would be fine with me.... great, crazy weather games. But I doubt the NFL would want that out of weather concerns. They would want domes or warm weather sites.
As for the timing....that is what the 2 week delay is supposed to be for. I think it could be done logistically even with the greater number of players. Have 2 sites with 7 teams each would certainly not be as difficult as what the NBA did in Orlando.
As for the other leagues having more time to decide on it: I think that just bespeaks of the NFL's failure to have a contingency plan in place. A lack of foresight and vision. Hell, my self and other shmoes on here thought of it long ago. Why couldn't the brilliant minds of the NFL think of it? What is that you say? What brilliant minds? OK, fair to say.
Again, you actually thinking that they didn't explore it is delusional.
And no, doing it now would be a complete logistics nightmare.
But I am certainly not going to go into all of that.
All I will further comment, is just imagine how you would feel as a Chiefs or Packers player that EVERYTHING changes on you last minute and 90% of the advantage you EARNED is taken away.
Or even look at it in your orange colored glasses. I think everyone (even the Jets) would agree that if the Browns weren't without the WR that they would have won. Which would now have them sitting in 3rd and hosting. You think it would be right for NFL to take their EARNED PO game away?
Basically, I am saying that since a move doesn't make things worse for the Browns that you don't have another thought on it. But if it did, you would show more of an inclination to dive deeper, even if you came to the same conclusion.
Again, you actually thinking that they didn't explore it is delusional.
Have you any evidence that they explored it? I would hope that I am being delusional there....but am I?
And no, doing it now would be a complete logistics nightmare.
Nothing that the will to do so, the brains to do so , and quick action and money could not resolve.
But I am certainly not going to go into all of that.
You just did
All I will further comment, is just imagine how you would feel as a Chiefs or Packers player that EVERYTHING changes on you last minute and 90% of the advantage you EARNED is taken away.
Oh, it would suck for sure. (but think about how it would suck if Mahomes or Rodgers caught it....that would suck even more for them probably). Beside....as someone suggested....bubble up in KC and GB....though, yes, those grass fields couldn't probably take those 6 games.
Or even look at it in your orange colored glasses. I think everyone (even the Jets) would agree that if the Browns weren't without the WR that they would have won. Which would now have them sitting in 3rd and hosting. You think it would be right for NFL to take their EARNED PO game away?
Wait....are you saying that if the Browns beat the Jets, and then beat the Steelers, they would have won the division? I am not certain that would have been the case. Depends on the tiebreaker situation. I think division record would still have favored Pitt. I thought for some reason that we would have also needed the Colts to beat the Steelers. Not sure. Of course, if the division title did come down to that game.....none of those Steelers would have been sitting out for sure. Irrelevant now though.
Basically, I am saying that since a move doesn't make things worse for the Browns that you don't have another thought on it. But if it did, you would show more of an inclination to dive deeper, even if you came to the same conclusion.
I am not sure where you are going here. I am only thinking about how the league could avoid a possible disaster if several other playoff teams ended up facing the same crap we have to deal with now.
But, I will say that you are right about one thing: I don't care IF those other teams do have to face the same crap that I do. In my gut I kind of have enough Schadenfreud to wish some of them do have to. Terrible of me?
now if the football gods would just follow along? ...Get Well Coach Stef ...
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