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FAKE NEWS - Mitch McConnell denies report - he will not allow impeachment vote

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  • T The Cysko Kid

    @jbluhm86 said:

    It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

    Why not? Everything else they've done for the last four years has been utterly pointless and it's been applauded by at least half of the country which, by the way, is more than has ever paid attention to them and stroked their egos before, so why not make hay while the sun shines? When the ball is in their court it'll start to go badly for them pretty quickly. 

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    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Why not? Everything else they've done for the last four years has been utterly pointless and it's been applauded by at least half of the country which, by the way, is more than has ever paid attention to them and stroked their egos before, so why not make hay while the sun shines? When the ball is in their court it'll start to go badly for them pretty quickly. 

    That's true, I suppose. The only way this country is going to get better is when it hits rock bottom. Just depends on how fast people want to rip that band aid off. 

    Personally, I think we're screwed until we get enough States to vote for an Article V Convention to bypass Congress and get some desperately needed amendments to the constitution to begin fixing this mess.

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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      I highly doubt they will do the 14th amendment.

      Why do you doubt it?

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @texasag1969 said:

      Why do you doubt it?

      Last time it was done was after the war between the states.

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      • T TexasAg1969

        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        I highly doubt they will do the 14th amendment.

        Why do you doubt it?

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        jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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        @texasag1969 said:

        Why do you doubt it?

        Good point. I'm sure that, if it's successfully used for Trump, there is absolutely no possibility that power will be abused for political gain in the future.

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        • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

          @westside-steve said:

          No doubt that trial will be 100% Fair

          WSS

          It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          @jbluhm86 said:

          It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

          It could bar him from running for office again and strip him of some of the govt. benefits he'd see as a previous president

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            Since the 14th Amendment has never been used to oust a sitting president before, constitutional law experts say that this option is unlikely. The amendment could still mean Senators and Congress members that supported the mob's actions could be expelled. Rep. Cori Bush drafted legislation on Monday seeking to hold those individuals accountable.

            I just introduced H.Res. 25, which would initiate investigations for removal of the members who attempted to overturn the results of the election and incited a white supremacist attempted coup.

            Grateful for the 47 of my colleagues who have co-sponsored this legislation. pic.twitter.com/yuxjHDZfW6

            — Congresswoman Cori Bush (@RepCori) January 11, 2021

            In short, Congress has the power to expel members, but it would have to come by way of legislation. This means a president would need to sign off on it. Additionally, Congress could remove a member with a two-thirds majority, but this would require Republican support. 

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            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              @jbluhm86 said:

              It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

              It could bar him from running for office again and strip him of some of the govt. benefits he'd see as a previous president

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              VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              It could bar him from running for office again and strip him of some of the govt. benefits he'd see as a previous president

              What does Section 3 of the 14th Amendment mean?
              Amendment XIV, Section 3 prohibits any person who had gone to war against the union or given aid and comfort to the nation's enemies from running for federal or state office, unless Congress by a two-thirds vote specifically permitted it.
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                F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                nothing says healing better than a good ole fashioned  2nd impeachment 

                and a "cleansing" of the "movement"   (70+ million BTW)

                bidens  "build back better" 

                should be - better build back... 

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                • VamboV Vambo

                  Imagine that disinformation from the left.

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                  @vambo said:

                  Imagine that disinformation from the left.

                  I'm shocked I tell ya ?

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                    • C calfoxwc

                      so the other thread started by Tour is total bs. Pres Trump is not impeached until the vote

                      happens in the Senate and it's approved. Just more facetious attack crap.

                      and a federal judge flat says there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL basis for impeaching after a president leaves office.

                      Mitch McConnell's Office Tells Sean Hannity That the NYT Story On Mitch McConnell Supporting Impeachment Is Wrong; McConnell Delays Senate Trial Until After Inauguration Day

                      https://redstate.com/streiff/2021/01/13/mcconnell-hannity-impeachment-n309334

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      so the other thread started by Tour is total bs. Pres Trump is not impeached until the vote happens in the Senate and it's approved. Just more facetious attack crap.

                      So Clinton wasn't impeached?

                      Guess again, Kal....

                      The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" ( Article I, section 2 ) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments…[but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" ( Article I, section 3 ). The president, vice president, and all civil officers of the United States are subject to impeachment.

                      https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Senate_Impeachment_Role.htm

                      In other words... because I know you need some help here... an impeachment is the corollary of an indictment and the Senate's trial is... well... the trial.

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        As for McConnell... yup... now he's not going to reconvene the Senate before the 19th. His Senate until the next day... his choice.

                        He could have brought it back sooner, but chose not to do so.

                        MSM has been all over that story all day. You? 4 hours per you time stamp.

                        So the trial starts on the 19th... Schumer probably gives them the 20th off... for the Inauguration of President-Elect Joe Biden... and then they'll be back at it on the 21st.

                        Now tell me how once out of office Trump cannot be impeached. I bet you can even "find a judge" with that opinion.

                        I already have the precedent that says he can be ready and waiting.

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                        • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                          @westside-steve said:

                          No doubt that trial will be 100% Fair

                          WSS

                          It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          @jbluhm86 said:

                          It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

                          The vote is still recorded.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            so...your thread was FAKE NEWS.

                            thanks for catching up, pokey.

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                            • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                              @jbluhm86 said:

                              It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

                              The vote is still recorded.

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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              The FARCE DISHONEST POLITICAL ATTACK vote is still recorded.

                              FIFY

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                              • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                                President Trump is impeached, though. Impeachment is just a form of indictment and only happens by vote in the House of Representatives. 

                                According to the Constitution, the charges now go to the Senate for a formal trial and vote for removal from office.

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @jbluhm86 said:

                                President Trump is impeached, though. Impeachment is just a form of indictment and only happens by vote in the House of Representatives. 

                                According to the Constitution, the charges now go to the Senate for a formal trial and vote for removal from office.

                                I see you already had chased Kal from the thread...

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                                • C calfoxwc

                                  so...your thread was FAKE NEWS.

                                  thanks for catching up, pokey.

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  so...your thread was FAKE NEWS.

                                  thanks for catching up, pokey.

                                  Ummmm.... no...

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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    not-listening-otter-meme.jpg Tour's beaver in an uproar

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      All these months and you've not upped your game a lick...

                                      #sad

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                                      • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                        @jbluhm86 said:

                                        It's pretty irrelevant at this point. Removal from office after impeachment requires a two-thirds majority, which Democrats don't have. Plus, the dude is out of office in less than a week anyway, so this whole procedure Congress is doing is pretty pointless.

                                        The vote is still recorded.

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                                        jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        The vote is still recorded.

                                        Ok, the vote is recorded. What does said vote actually accomplish in the way of removing Trump from office? Republicans in the Senate won't vote to remove him. The shortest impeachment trial was Trump's 1st one and it took 21 day; Trump is out of office anyway in less than 6 days, so - again - what does all of this Kabuki theater from the Democrats actually accomplish?

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                                        • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          The vote is still recorded.

                                          Ok, the vote is recorded. What does said vote actually accomplish in the way of removing Trump from office? Republicans in the Senate won't vote to remove him. The shortest impeachment trial was Trump's 1st one and it took 21 day; Trump is out of office anyway in less than 6 days, so - again - what does all of this Kabuki theater from the Democrats actually accomplish?

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                                          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jbluhm86 said:

                                          Trump is out of office anyway in less than 6 days, so - again - what does all of this Kabuki theater from the Democrats actually accomplish?

                                          Non-Democrat here, but I’ll give you their reasoning.

                                          They want to make sure Trump will not be able to run for any public office again.

                                          Its my belief, they’re scared to death of Trump coming back and winning the 2024 election.

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