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As is Brian Daboll.....Buffalo OC (and didn't he do that here, and we hated him?)
Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?
Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?
Not sure. I thought he was here after that.
In checking....no, he was here after that. in 2007 he was with the Jets....in 2009 and 2010 the Browns were 5-11 both years. :
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As is Brian Daboll.....Buffalo OC (and didn't he do that here, and we hated him?)
Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?
Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?
That Chud back in '07...
Daboll was '09-'10... worked with DA and BQ in '09, and Colt/Seneca/Delhome in 2010.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Zombo said:
And it was actually better than Kiser /Kessler / Hogan.
Thank you, Baker, thank you.
Z
God what a shit show those 3 were.
Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan? Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers.
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Zombo said:
And it was actually better than Kiser /Kessler / Hogan.
Thank you, Baker, thank you.
Z
God what a shit show those 3 were.
Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan? Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers.
Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan?
Pretty sure that was Hue...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Zombo said:
And it was actually better than Kiser /Kessler / Hogan.
Thank you, Baker, thank you.
Z
God what a shit show those 3 were.
Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan? Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers.
God what a shit show those 3 were.
Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan? Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers.
Man, I completely forgot about that...
It must have got kicked out of my memory bank by the 25 page Draft Saquon Barkley! thread that will forever be a classic on here.
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Meanwhile...
Urban to JAX seems to be heating up.Update... it's a done deal now.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30711061/jacksonville-jaguars-hiring-urban-meyer-coach
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Teams with HC openings now:
Atlanta
Detroit
Houston
Jacksonville
LA Chargers
Jets
Eagles
Teams with GM openings still:
Atlanta
Carolina
Denver
Detroit
Jacksonville
Teams with HC openings now:
Atlanta
Detroit
Houston
JacksonvilleMeyer hired.LA Chargers
Jets
Eagles
Teams with GM openings still:
Atlanta
CarolinaSee belowDenverSee belowDetroitJacksonville
Longtime Vikings assistant general manager and VP of player personnel George Paton has been hired as the new general manager of the Denver Broncos. Paton, who spent the past 14 years with the Vikings, agreed to a six-year deal on Jan. 13.
Detroit Lions hire Brad Holmes
Los Angeles Rams director of college scouting Brad Holmes has been hired as the new general manager of the Detroit Lions. Holmes, who has served in various roles for the Rams over the past 18 years, agreed to terms on a five-year deal on Jan. 14.
Carolina Panthers expected to hire Scott Fitterer
Seattle Seahawks VP of football operations Scott Fitterer is expected to be hired by the Carolina Panthers as their next general manager.
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Teams with HC openings now:
Atlanta
Detroit
Houston
JacksonvilleMeyer hired.LA Chargers
Jets
Eagles
Teams with GM openings still:
Atlanta
CarolinaSee belowDenverSee belowDetroitJacksonville
Longtime Vikings assistant general manager and VP of player personnel George Paton has been hired as the new general manager of the Denver Broncos. Paton, who spent the past 14 years with the Vikings, agreed to a six-year deal on Jan. 13.
Detroit Lions hire Brad Holmes
Los Angeles Rams director of college scouting Brad Holmes has been hired as the new general manager of the Detroit Lions. Holmes, who has served in various roles for the Rams over the past 18 years, agreed to terms on a five-year deal on Jan. 14.
Carolina Panthers expected to hire Scott Fitterer
Seattle Seahawks VP of football operations Scott Fitterer is expected to be hired by the Carolina Panthers as their next general manager.
Longtime Vikings assistant general manager and VP of player personnel George Paton has been hired as the new general manager of the Denver Broncos. Paton, who spent the past 14 years with the Vikings, agreed to a six-year deal on Jan. 13.
Isn’t that the guy who turned us down last year?
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Longtime Vikings assistant general manager and VP of player personnel George Paton has been hired as the new general manager of the Denver Broncos. Paton, who spent the past 14 years with the Vikings, agreed to a six-year deal on Jan. 13.
Isn’t that the guy who turned us down last year?
Isn’t that the guy who turned us down last year?
Good memory... may I borrow it sometime?
Not sure Detroit's "progress" is a resume padder.
So far I think we've done OK with our choice...
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New York Jets hire Robert Saleh
New York Jets announced they hired San Francisco defensive coordinator Robert Saleh on Jan. 14.
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The Eagles just need to Trust The Process:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/eagles-front-office-exec-built-050455689.html
John Dorsey, the Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams
Reuben Frank
Thu, January 14, 2021, 9:04 PM
The Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams originally appeared on NBC Sports PhiladelphiaWhen the Chiefs and Browns meet in the playoffs Sunday, both teams will have the imprint of the same general manager.
Who now works for the Eagles.
John Dorsey, who spent this past year as a consultant in the Eagles’ scouting department, was general manager of the Chiefs from 2013 through 2016 and the Browns from 2017 through 2019.
He delivered both franchises a number of the star players that helped them reach the AFC conference semifinal round.
And then they both fired him.
Dorsey, 60, spent six years in the 1980s as a linebacker with the Packers before going into scouting under legendary Packers GM Ron Wolf in 1991.
It was in Green Bay where Dorsey first met Andy Reid, who joined Mike Holmgren’s staff in 1992. Reid and Dorsey were together for seven years until Holmgren and Dorsey left for Seattle in 1999 and Reid became head coach of the Eagles.
Dorsey returned to Green Bay in 2000, but when the Chiefs fired both head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli after the 2012 season, it opened up the door for Reid and Dorsey to reunite in Kansas City.
Dorsey spent four years as the Chiefs’ general manager, a period where the Chiefs went 43-21 and reached the playoffs three times.
Although he stocked the Chiefs’ roster with tons of talent, he was fired in the spring of 2017 for reasons that have never been made public and soon hired as GM of the Browns.
Why did the Chiefs fire Dorsey?
“I’m friends with John,” Reid said in a 2018 story in the Canton (Ohio) Repository newspaper before the Browns faced the Chiefs. “I'll leave it at that. Things happen.”
In Cleveland, Dorsey again found a number of players who helped the Browns turn things around under Kevin Stefanski, a one-time Eagles coaching intern at Lehigh.
And again he was fired.
“John is a great man -- a great family man -- and a really good personnel man,” Stefanski said of Dorsey in an interview this week with the Associated Press. “Just look at both of our teams. A lot of players on this team I recognize are guys John brought in, so I think very highly of him." With Dorsey out of work, Howie Roseman invited him to spend the year as a consultant with the Eagles, scouting college and pro players and adding a new voice to the Eagles’ front office.
“John is a great football mind,” Reid said of Dorsey last year before the Super Bowl. “He knows talent. He brought in a lot of guys who maybe weren’t big names, but he saw something in them and they turned out to be good for us. He’s old-school football. He loves the game. That’s pretty obvious. He’s a gritty guy. I came to appreciate that about him. He would bring you a tough football player. Sometimes that’s a little harder to find these days.”
Although Reid has credited current Chiefs GM Brett Veach - who was also with him in Philly - as the guy who discovered Patrick Mahomes, he was drafted on Dorsey’s watch, and Dorsey was involved at least to some extent.
Here’s a look at the top five players on the Chiefs and Browns that Dorsey drafted:
Chiefs
Pat Mahomes
Tyreek Hill
Travis Kelce
Eric Fisher
Chris Jones
Browns
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Denzel Ward
Chad Thomas
Sheldrick Redwine
“I knew he would bring in some talented football players (in Cleveland), because that’s what he’s really good at,” Reid said. “I thought he could get that place turned around. He brought in a massive amount of talent. He’s done a nice job setting the foundation.”
There were seven GM openings in the NFL this offseason – Texans, Lions, Falcons, Panthers, Jaguars, Broncos and Washington. Four have been filled, and Dorsey has not been mentioned as a candidate for any of the other jobs.
So it doesn’t look like he’s going to get another GM job at this point.
Jeff Lurie was asked Monday about Dorsey and whether he might become a full-time member of the scouting staff here.
Instead of answering specifically about Dorsey, Lurie was vague and spoke of a number of people in the scouting staff, saying, “All the people we have … are very capable people.”
But considering Dorsey’s track record and considering the Eagles’ recent track record, it seems like a no-brainer for the Eagles to keep Dorsey around.
All you have to do to understand why is watch the Chiefs-Browns game.
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The Eagles just need to Trust The Process:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/eagles-front-office-exec-built-050455689.html
John Dorsey, the Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams
Reuben Frank
Thu, January 14, 2021, 9:04 PM
The Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams originally appeared on NBC Sports PhiladelphiaWhen the Chiefs and Browns meet in the playoffs Sunday, both teams will have the imprint of the same general manager.
Who now works for the Eagles.
John Dorsey, who spent this past year as a consultant in the Eagles’ scouting department, was general manager of the Chiefs from 2013 through 2016 and the Browns from 2017 through 2019.
He delivered both franchises a number of the star players that helped them reach the AFC conference semifinal round.
And then they both fired him.
Dorsey, 60, spent six years in the 1980s as a linebacker with the Packers before going into scouting under legendary Packers GM Ron Wolf in 1991.
It was in Green Bay where Dorsey first met Andy Reid, who joined Mike Holmgren’s staff in 1992. Reid and Dorsey were together for seven years until Holmgren and Dorsey left for Seattle in 1999 and Reid became head coach of the Eagles.
Dorsey returned to Green Bay in 2000, but when the Chiefs fired both head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli after the 2012 season, it opened up the door for Reid and Dorsey to reunite in Kansas City.
Dorsey spent four years as the Chiefs’ general manager, a period where the Chiefs went 43-21 and reached the playoffs three times.
Although he stocked the Chiefs’ roster with tons of talent, he was fired in the spring of 2017 for reasons that have never been made public and soon hired as GM of the Browns.
Why did the Chiefs fire Dorsey?
“I’m friends with John,” Reid said in a 2018 story in the Canton (Ohio) Repository newspaper before the Browns faced the Chiefs. “I'll leave it at that. Things happen.”
In Cleveland, Dorsey again found a number of players who helped the Browns turn things around under Kevin Stefanski, a one-time Eagles coaching intern at Lehigh.
And again he was fired.
“John is a great man -- a great family man -- and a really good personnel man,” Stefanski said of Dorsey in an interview this week with the Associated Press. “Just look at both of our teams. A lot of players on this team I recognize are guys John brought in, so I think very highly of him." With Dorsey out of work, Howie Roseman invited him to spend the year as a consultant with the Eagles, scouting college and pro players and adding a new voice to the Eagles’ front office.
“John is a great football mind,” Reid said of Dorsey last year before the Super Bowl. “He knows talent. He brought in a lot of guys who maybe weren’t big names, but he saw something in them and they turned out to be good for us. He’s old-school football. He loves the game. That’s pretty obvious. He’s a gritty guy. I came to appreciate that about him. He would bring you a tough football player. Sometimes that’s a little harder to find these days.”
Although Reid has credited current Chiefs GM Brett Veach - who was also with him in Philly - as the guy who discovered Patrick Mahomes, he was drafted on Dorsey’s watch, and Dorsey was involved at least to some extent.
Here’s a look at the top five players on the Chiefs and Browns that Dorsey drafted:
Chiefs
Pat Mahomes
Tyreek Hill
Travis Kelce
Eric Fisher
Chris Jones
Browns
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Denzel Ward
Chad Thomas
Sheldrick Redwine
“I knew he would bring in some talented football players (in Cleveland), because that’s what he’s really good at,” Reid said. “I thought he could get that place turned around. He brought in a massive amount of talent. He’s done a nice job setting the foundation.”
There were seven GM openings in the NFL this offseason – Texans, Lions, Falcons, Panthers, Jaguars, Broncos and Washington. Four have been filled, and Dorsey has not been mentioned as a candidate for any of the other jobs.
So it doesn’t look like he’s going to get another GM job at this point.
Jeff Lurie was asked Monday about Dorsey and whether he might become a full-time member of the scouting staff here.
Instead of answering specifically about Dorsey, Lurie was vague and spoke of a number of people in the scouting staff, saying, “All the people we have … are very capable people.”
But considering Dorsey’s track record and considering the Eagles’ recent track record, it seems like a no-brainer for the Eagles to keep Dorsey around.
All you have to do to understand why is watch the Chiefs-Browns game.
Here’s a look at the top five players on the Chiefs and Browns that Dorsey drafted:
Chiefs
Pat Mahomes
Tyreek Hill
Travis Kelce
Eric Fisher
Chris Jones
Browns
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Denzel Ward
Chad Thomas
Sheldrick Redwine
Now that’s some crack research right there Reuben, haha. Chad Thomas isn’t even on anyone’s practice squad right now.
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Houston Texans hire Nick Caserio
Longtime Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio has been hired as the new general manager of the Houston Texans. Caserio was with the Patriots for 20 years, which included six Super Bowl victories and nine appearances.
Of course, DeShaun Watson is pissed because he wasn't consulted on who the new GM of the DATs would be.
What I don't understand is why he thinks the team is obligated to consult him? Sure, he is their primary player, but nothing in any contract anywhere gives him say so over the choice of a position on that team wherein he would have little if any interaction. Its not like the HC. Now, I understand that he does have a right to bitch about O'Brien who traded Hopkins away...but Caserio has been a respected NFL player personnel man for like 4 times longer than Watson has even been in the league. The only thing I can envision is that Watson wanted to demand that the team hire a black man for the job. Sorry....but Caserio seems to me that he would be one of the Top 5 guys to be considered by any team.
Here are all the guys that the Texans did interview:
- Matt Bazirgan, Texans director of player personnel -- completed (more)
- Nick Caserio, Patriots director of player personnel -- hired (more)
- Scott Cohen, Ravens director of football research -- requested
- Omar Khan, Steelers VP of football and business administration -- completed
- Trent Kirchner, Seahawks VP of player personnel -- completed (per team)
- Louis Riddick, ESPN analyst and former Eagles director of pro personnel -- completed (more)
Houston Texans hire Nick Caserio
Longtime Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio has been hired as the new general manager of the Houston Texans. Caserio was with the Patriots for 20 years, which included six Super Bowl victories and nine appearances.
Of course, DeShaun Watson is pissed because he wasn't consulted on who the new GM of the DATs would be.
What I don't understand is why he thinks the team is obligated to consult him? Sure, he is their primary player, but nothing in any contract anywhere gives him say so over the choice of a position on that team wherein he would have little if any interaction. Its not like the HC. Now, I understand that he does have a right to bitch about O'Brien who traded Hopkins away...but Caserio has been a respected NFL player personnel man for like 4 times longer than Watson has even been in the league. The only thing I can envision is that Watson wanted to demand that the team hire a black man for the job. Sorry....but Caserio seems to me that he would be one of the Top 5 guys to be considered by any team.
Here are all the guys that the Texans did interview:
- Matt Bazirgan, Texans director of player personnel -- completed (more)
- Nick Caserio, Patriots director of player personnel -- hired (more)
- Scott Cohen, Ravens director of football research -- requested
- Omar Khan, Steelers VP of football and business administration -- completed
- Trent Kirchner, Seahawks VP of player personnel -- completed (per team)
- Louis Riddick, ESPN analyst and former Eagles director of pro personnel -- completed (more)
Sounds like Watson was told he would at least be invited in to listen to the talks/interviews, so it's a breach of faith there. If that's true, it would definitely be a management error by the Texans.
Regarding Bienemy, he was involved in some controversies (albeit 20+ years ago) at Colorado which might explain some hesitancy in this day & age. Clearly, he has coaching skills and the talent to run it in KC.
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Houston Texans hire Nick Caserio
Longtime Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio has been hired as the new general manager of the Houston Texans. Caserio was with the Patriots for 20 years, which included six Super Bowl victories and nine appearances.
Of course, DeShaun Watson is pissed because he wasn't consulted on who the new GM of the DATs would be.
What I don't understand is why he thinks the team is obligated to consult him? Sure, he is their primary player, but nothing in any contract anywhere gives him say so over the choice of a position on that team wherein he would have little if any interaction. Its not like the HC. Now, I understand that he does have a right to bitch about O'Brien who traded Hopkins away...but Caserio has been a respected NFL player personnel man for like 4 times longer than Watson has even been in the league. The only thing I can envision is that Watson wanted to demand that the team hire a black man for the job. Sorry....but Caserio seems to me that he would be one of the Top 5 guys to be considered by any team.
Here are all the guys that the Texans did interview:
- Matt Bazirgan, Texans director of player personnel -- completed (more)
- Nick Caserio, Patriots director of player personnel -- hired (more)
- Scott Cohen, Ravens director of football research -- requested
- Omar Khan, Steelers VP of football and business administration -- completed
- Trent Kirchner, Seahawks VP of player personnel -- completed (per team)
- Louis Riddick, ESPN analyst and former Eagles director of pro personnel -- completed (more)
Sounds like Watson was told he would at least be invited in to listen to the talks/interviews, so it's a breach of faith there. If that's true, it would definitely be a management error by the Texans.
Regarding Bienemy, he was involved in some controversies (albeit 20+ years ago) at Colorado which might explain some hesitancy in this day & age. Clearly, he has coaching skills and the talent to run it in KC.
Sounds like Watson was told he would at least be invited in to listen to the talks/interviews, so it's a breach of faith there. If that's true, it would definitely be a management error by the Texans.
Regarding Bienemy, he was involved in some controversies (albeit 20+ years ago) at Colorado which might explain some hesitancy in this day & age. Clearly, he has coaching skills and the talent to run it in KC.
Well, I know Bienemy is a prime candidate....but the opportunities are slipping away:
The Atlanta Falcons announced they agreed to terms with Titans offensive coordinator Arthur Smith to be their next head coach on Jan. 15.
Still Lions, Texans, Chargers, Eagles. Maybe the DumbAssTexans are holding a spot for him.
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The Eagles just need to Trust The Process:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/eagles-front-office-exec-built-050455689.html
John Dorsey, the Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams
Reuben Frank
Thu, January 14, 2021, 9:04 PM
The Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams originally appeared on NBC Sports PhiladelphiaWhen the Chiefs and Browns meet in the playoffs Sunday, both teams will have the imprint of the same general manager.
Who now works for the Eagles.
John Dorsey, who spent this past year as a consultant in the Eagles’ scouting department, was general manager of the Chiefs from 2013 through 2016 and the Browns from 2017 through 2019.
He delivered both franchises a number of the star players that helped them reach the AFC conference semifinal round.
And then they both fired him.
Dorsey, 60, spent six years in the 1980s as a linebacker with the Packers before going into scouting under legendary Packers GM Ron Wolf in 1991.
It was in Green Bay where Dorsey first met Andy Reid, who joined Mike Holmgren’s staff in 1992. Reid and Dorsey were together for seven years until Holmgren and Dorsey left for Seattle in 1999 and Reid became head coach of the Eagles.
Dorsey returned to Green Bay in 2000, but when the Chiefs fired both head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli after the 2012 season, it opened up the door for Reid and Dorsey to reunite in Kansas City.
Dorsey spent four years as the Chiefs’ general manager, a period where the Chiefs went 43-21 and reached the playoffs three times.
Although he stocked the Chiefs’ roster with tons of talent, he was fired in the spring of 2017 for reasons that have never been made public and soon hired as GM of the Browns.
Why did the Chiefs fire Dorsey?
“I’m friends with John,” Reid said in a 2018 story in the Canton (Ohio) Repository newspaper before the Browns faced the Chiefs. “I'll leave it at that. Things happen.”
In Cleveland, Dorsey again found a number of players who helped the Browns turn things around under Kevin Stefanski, a one-time Eagles coaching intern at Lehigh.
And again he was fired.
“John is a great man -- a great family man -- and a really good personnel man,” Stefanski said of Dorsey in an interview this week with the Associated Press. “Just look at both of our teams. A lot of players on this team I recognize are guys John brought in, so I think very highly of him." With Dorsey out of work, Howie Roseman invited him to spend the year as a consultant with the Eagles, scouting college and pro players and adding a new voice to the Eagles’ front office.
“John is a great football mind,” Reid said of Dorsey last year before the Super Bowl. “He knows talent. He brought in a lot of guys who maybe weren’t big names, but he saw something in them and they turned out to be good for us. He’s old-school football. He loves the game. That’s pretty obvious. He’s a gritty guy. I came to appreciate that about him. He would bring you a tough football player. Sometimes that’s a little harder to find these days.”
Although Reid has credited current Chiefs GM Brett Veach - who was also with him in Philly - as the guy who discovered Patrick Mahomes, he was drafted on Dorsey’s watch, and Dorsey was involved at least to some extent.
Here’s a look at the top five players on the Chiefs and Browns that Dorsey drafted:
Chiefs
Pat Mahomes
Tyreek Hill
Travis Kelce
Eric Fisher
Chris Jones
Browns
Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Denzel Ward
Chad Thomas
Sheldrick Redwine
“I knew he would bring in some talented football players (in Cleveland), because that’s what he’s really good at,” Reid said. “I thought he could get that place turned around. He brought in a massive amount of talent. He’s done a nice job setting the foundation.”
There were seven GM openings in the NFL this offseason – Texans, Lions, Falcons, Panthers, Jaguars, Broncos and Washington. Four have been filled, and Dorsey has not been mentioned as a candidate for any of the other jobs.
So it doesn’t look like he’s going to get another GM job at this point.
Jeff Lurie was asked Monday about Dorsey and whether he might become a full-time member of the scouting staff here.
Instead of answering specifically about Dorsey, Lurie was vague and spoke of a number of people in the scouting staff, saying, “All the people we have … are very capable people.”
But considering Dorsey’s track record and considering the Eagles’ recent track record, it seems like a no-brainer for the Eagles to keep Dorsey around.
All you have to do to understand why is watch the Chiefs-Browns game.
John Dorsey, the Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams
Reuben Frank
Thu, January 14, 2021, 9:04 PM
The Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams originally appeared on NBC Sports Philadelphia----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But considering Dorsey’s track record and considering the Eagles’ recent track record, it seems like a no-brainer for the Eagles to keep Dorsey around.
All you have to do to understand why is watch the Chiefs-Browns game.
Browns HC Kevin Stefanski was hired Jan. 12th 2020.. (as of today.. 1 year & 3 days on the job)
Andrew Berry was hired by the Browns on Jan. 27th 2020.. Andrew Berry was Scouting for the Eagles, when Day 1 of Senior Bowl practices begun on Jan. 21st of 2020...
Let that simmer & sink in until Sunday
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