JJ Watt to Cardinals
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Rumors about Houston tearing the roster down to rebuild.
If watt hits the trading block?
What would you trade for him?
Rumors about Houston tearing the roster down to rebuild.
If watt hits the trading block?
What would you trade for him?
Draft pick. 3rd or a 4th. Houston needs picks.
He fits into our short term cap space and his deal expires after next season
Steelers no way no how. No cap room.
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Rumors about Houston tearing the roster down to rebuild.
If watt hits the trading block?
What would you trade for him?
Draft pick. 3rd or a 4th. Houston needs picks.
He fits into our short term cap space and his deal expires after next season
Steelers no way no how. No cap room.
Draft pick. 3rd or a 4th. Houston needs picks.
He fits into our short term cap space and his deal expires after next season
Steelers no way no how. No cap room.
Personnel wise... Damn, JJ would be a great addition in replacing OV while we keep our edge depth roll players.
Would allow this draft and next to turn over late round rocks in hoping we find cheap(er) youth.
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Draft pick. 3rd or a 4th. Houston needs picks.
He fits into our short term cap space and his deal expires after next season
Steelers no way no how. No cap room.
Personnel wise... Damn, JJ would be a great addition in replacing OV while we keep our edge depth roll players.
Would allow this draft and next to turn over late round rocks in hoping we find cheap(er) youth.
Personnel wise... Damn, JJ would be a great addition in replacing OV while we keep our edge depth roll players.
Would allow this draft and next to turn over late round rocks in hoping we find cheap(er) youth.
I love the idea honestly. We have 9 picks this year. I don’t think adding 9 rookies to a team that is ready to contend for the title is the solution.
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Rumors about Houston tearing the roster down to rebuild.
If watt hits the trading block?
What would you trade for him?
I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
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Start with a 3, if they beg and plead add a 4.. no more.
JJ has a ridiculous injury history throughout his career, he very possibly falls apart at some point next season like Ironman's final suit. Or he plays another 10 full years and is a first-ballot HOF.. flip a coin.
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With 9 picks in a contending team, these kind of 1 year signs make a lot of sense. And having more rotation in the Dline is welcome.
He won't be asked to carry the weigh of the defense here and he has surprised me with his gameplay after all the injuries he has been through.
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When I watched JJ play this last season, he looked like an average to slightly above average DL. Those injuries have taken a toll on him and he isn't the same player anymore. No way would I trade for him. I rather pay OV to come back for one year then take Watt.
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I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
They did just sign Haskins. Maybe he could replace.................. LMAO
I couldn’t even finish the sentence
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
JJ played 16 games 7 of his 10 season, including this year.
It's his work on the edge against the run along with a possible pitch count that intrigue me.
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Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
They did just sign Haskins. Maybe he could replace.................. LMAO
I couldn’t even finish the sentence
They did just sign Haskins. Maybe he could replace.................. LMAO
I couldn’t even finish the sentence
For a "futures" contract....which means like -0- money.
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I'd give pick 4B .
Adding him on a 1 year lease on a team that's only a player or two from serious contention sure seems fun.
And yeah here his pitch count would fall more in favor of his age.
Im also all about keeping Vernon.
I mean next year im assuming we get delprit and greedy back on the back end.
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Rumors about Houston tearing the roster down to rebuild.
If watt hits the trading block?
What would you trade for him?
I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
Nailed it... and I'm not saying that just because I've posted the same here and there...
Mostly because, but not just because...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
Nailed it... and I'm not saying that just because I've posted the same here and there...
Mostly because, but not just because...
Nailed it... and I'm not saying that just because I've posted the same here and there...
Mostly because, but not just because...
Haha...I must have missed your post(s) on JJ Watt....
The D line is definitely important, and all teams including the Browns are always looking to improve. If the Browns are to upgrade their D with trades or FA acquisitions, I'd think most of us agree they'd look at the LB spots or secondary as priorities right now over the D line.
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I don't know how much he's got left. Plus, he makes around $16 million a year. I don't think he'd fit the analytics but what do I know?
My hunch is he'll try to get with his brothers in Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
Never thought of that, meaning the Steelers & the cap. So yeah, Pittsburgh sounds like they are heading to cap hell.
During many NFL broadcasts they kept mentioning how the cap will go down. I'm just wondering if the league & union are able to open up talks about that. The uncertainty of the pandemic probably means management wouldn't be willing to, with the possibility of no fans again.
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Pittsburgh cannot be signing anyone like JJ Watt. Hell, they are so far over the cap they may have to get rid of TJ Watt! Well....not really. He is the last guy they would trade. They would dump BR first along with half their OL and DB.
As I see it....only maybe 3 players from that team will be impervious from salary cap cuts: TJ Watt; Claypool; Minkah. ...and maybe Heyward. maybe DeCastro.
Never thought of that, meaning the Steelers & the cap. So yeah, Pittsburgh sounds like they are heading to cap hell.
During many NFL broadcasts they kept mentioning how the cap will go down. I'm just wondering if the league & union are able to open up talks about that. The uncertainty of the pandemic probably means management wouldn't be willing to, with the possibility of no fans again.
Never thought of that, meaning the Steelers & the cap. So yeah, Pittsburgh sounds like they are heading to cap hell.
During many NFL broadcasts they kept mentioning how the cap will go down. I'm just wondering if the league & union are able to open up talks about that. The uncertainty of the pandemic probably means management wouldn't be willing to, with the possibility of no fans again.
I don’t think the cap is going down, I think it’s going to hover around 200. The Steelers will likely use qualifying contracts which are voidable. I expect Ben to take a pay cut. Definitely going to lose some players. The Steelers also don’t need jj watt but don’t be shocked if he takes a massive discount to play with his brothers. He’s made his money. I don’t think he really cares about it to that degree anymore and as a likable guy I won’t be shocked to see him transition to broadcasting or just go hard on post retirement endorsements like brett Favre.
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Never thought of that, meaning the Steelers & the cap. So yeah, Pittsburgh sounds like they are heading to cap hell.
During many NFL broadcasts they kept mentioning how the cap will go down. I'm just wondering if the league & union are able to open up talks about that. The uncertainty of the pandemic probably means management wouldn't be willing to, with the possibility of no fans again.
I don’t think the cap is going down, I think it’s going to hover around 200. The Steelers will likely use qualifying contracts which are voidable. I expect Ben to take a pay cut. Definitely going to lose some players. The Steelers also don’t need jj watt but don’t be shocked if he takes a massive discount to play with his brothers. He’s made his money. I don’t think he really cares about it to that degree anymore and as a likable guy I won’t be shocked to see him transition to broadcasting or just go hard on post retirement endorsements like brett Favre.
I don’t think the cap is going down, I think it’s going to hover around 200. The Steelers will likely use qualifying contracts which are voidable. I expect Ben to take a pay cut. Definitely going to lose some players. The Steelers also don’t need jj watt but don’t be shocked if he takes a massive discount to play with his brothers. He’s made his money. I don’t think he really cares about it to that degree anymore and as a likable guy I won’t be shocked to see him transition to broadcasting or just go hard on post retirement endorsements like brett Favre.
So? He has more than one brother playing for the Steelers? He may take a big cut to do that....but, I hear that the Steelers may have to completely gut that team. I don't know....he may like his brothers...and they will always be his brothers....but I doubt he will want to play for next to nothing.
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I don’t think the cap is going down, I think it’s going to hover around 200. The Steelers will likely use qualifying contracts which are voidable. I expect Ben to take a pay cut. Definitely going to lose some players. The Steelers also don’t need jj watt but don’t be shocked if he takes a massive discount to play with his brothers. He’s made his money. I don’t think he really cares about it to that degree anymore and as a likable guy I won’t be shocked to see him transition to broadcasting or just go hard on post retirement endorsements like brett Favre.
So? He has more than one brother playing for the Steelers? He may take a big cut to do that....but, I hear that the Steelers may have to completely gut that team. I don't know....he may like his brothers...and they will always be his brothers....but I doubt he will want to play for next to nothing.
So? He has more than one brother playing for the Steelers? He may take a big cut to do that....but, I hear that the Steelers may have to completely gut that team. I don't know....he may like his brothers...and they will always be his brothers....but I doubt he will want to play for next to nothing.
Depends on whether other offers are any better. Recent injury history and aftereffects seems like a big red flag unless you need him one year only. Even then he might take far less per year for a multi-year contract.
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JJ was very good last season, only a couple points lower than someone named Garrett. Higher than Vernon, higher than Clowney.
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Love JJ.... at one time there was no more dominant Defensive force in the game. He did things I never saw before, but...
... he's a 10-yr vet on the downside of his career who in 2020 managed to have his second healthy season in his last five. And it paled in comparison to his 2018 comeback year... when he played opposite Clowney.
Now maybe that's an argument for moving heaven and earth to line him opposite MG, but first you have to trade for him (apparently he does not have a "no-trade" clause). And then you are getting him on a one-year deal for a mere $17.5mm.
If he signs with a team at a discount, they'll get real value... even at say $10mm/yr. But the list of teams for whom he might be willing to do that is a list of one... and it ain't us.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Never thought of that, meaning the Steelers & the cap. So yeah, Pittsburgh sounds like they are heading to cap hell.
During many NFL broadcasts they kept mentioning how the cap will go down. I'm just wondering if the league & union are able to open up talks about that. The uncertainty of the pandemic probably means management wouldn't be willing to, with the possibility of no fans again.
I don’t think the cap is going down, I think it’s going to hover around 200. The Steelers will likely use qualifying contracts which are voidable. I expect Ben to take a pay cut. Definitely going to lose some players. The Steelers also don’t need jj watt but don’t be shocked if he takes a massive discount to play with his brothers. He’s made his money. I don’t think he really cares about it to that degree anymore and as a likable guy I won’t be shocked to see him transition to broadcasting or just go hard on post retirement endorsements like brett Favre.
I don’t think the cap is going down, I think it’s going to hover around 200. The Steelers will likely use qualifying contracts which are voidable. I expect Ben to take a pay cut. Definitely going to lose some players. The Steelers also don’t need jj watt but don’t be shocked if he takes a massive discount to play with his brothers. He’s made his money. I don’t think he really cares about it to that degree anymore and as a likable guy I won’t be shocked to see him transition to broadcasting or just go hard on post retirement endorsements like brett Favre.
I read somewhere the cap was heading to around $175 million in 2021, down from the present $198 million. If I find it, I'll post it (CBS sports I think).
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