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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Haskell is coming back.  Another reason why mocks, especially this early, are useless.

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Haskell is coming back.  Another reason why mocks, especially this early, are useless.

    As an OSU fan I love it.  He had a great year.  Shocked on Olave though- makes you think Stroud is going to be a stud and Olave has confidence in the QB room. 

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      @tiamat63 said:

      Haskell is coming back.  Another reason why mocks, especially this early, are useless.

      As an OSU fan I love it.  He had a great year.  Shocked on Olave though- makes you think Stroud is going to be a stud and Olave has confidence in the QB room. 

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      @sdbacker80 said:

      As an OSU fan I love it.  He had a great year.  Shocked on Olave though- makes you think Stroud is going to be a stud and Olave has confidence in the QB room. 

      Let us hope that's it.  But Fields has more to gain by coming back then leaving.  All of the firepower across the CFB landscape is headed to the NFL.

      Trask and co.

      Jones, Smith and Harris.

      Kellen Mond is out.

      Notre Dame is...well, Notre Dame.

      Clemson loses Goldie locks and Eitienne.

      If Fields comes back with 60% of the Oline, his trio of receivers, Ruckert and two capable backs?  It's 2006 all over again.  Wire to wire #1 - except maybe the defense will be improved.   But I have my doubts about Coombs as a DC.

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        Where a damn middle-finger reaction when I need one?

        I guess this emoji will have to do... ?...

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          I had forgotten we had the extra picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds this year. That's a good thing.?

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          @texasag1969 said:

          I had forgotten we had the extra picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds this year. That's a good thing.?

          Ditto...

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          • tiamat63T tiamat63

            Haskell is coming back.  Another reason why mocks, especially this early, are useless.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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            @tiamat63 said:

            Haskell is coming back.  Another reason why mocks, especially this early, are useless.

            What IS the deadline for declaring for the draft this year?   It used to be like January 15th. 

            ...OK, I looked it up.....it was Monday:   

            Underclassmen have until January 18 to file declaration papers with the league, with a 72-hour period to reconsider after filing.

            So, actually, all players who are to be eligible should by now be determined unless someone wants to rescind their declaration......so that particular mock must have been done before Monday. 

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              Daniel Jerimiah's first mock is out... it's a one-rounder. Dj's pretty good IMO.

              I've boldfaced picks that surprise or mention prospects that have garnered some attention in tia's Who are you watching thread.

              For Jerimiah's pick-by-pick rationale go to his article.

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              The NFL has released the list of underclassmen who have been granted early entry to the 2021 NFL Draft, marking the official start to Mock Draft Season! With 97 days until Round 1 kicks off in Cleveland, here's my first look at how the first 32 picks of the 2021 draft class could play out.

              NOTE: The final four spots below were ordered by seed, with regular season record as the tiebreaker. The official order for those slots will be determined by the outcome of the remaining playoff games.

              Pick 1: Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence · QB Clemson | Year: Junior

              Pick 2: New York Jets - Zach Wilson · QB BYU | Year: Junior

              Pick 3: Miami Dolphins - Ja'Marr Chase · WR LSU | Year: Junior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE HOUSTON TEXANS

              Pick 4: Atlanta Falcons - Trey Lance · QB North Dakota State | Year: Sophomore (RS)

              Pick 5: Cincinnati Bengals - Rashawn Slater · OT Northwestern | Year: Senior

              Pick 6: Philadelphia Eagles - Patrick Surtain · CB Alabama | Year: Junior

              Pick 7: Detroit Lions - DeVonta Smith · WR  Alabama | Year: Senior

              Pick 8: Carolina Panthers - Justin Fields - QB Ohio State | Year: Junior

              Pick 9: Denver Broncos - Caleb Farley - CB Virginia Tech | Year: Junior (RS)

              Pick 10: Dallas Cowboys - Penei Sewell · OT Oregon | Year: Junior

              Pick 11:New York Giants Jaylen Waddle · WR Alabama | Year: Junior

              Pick 12: San Francisco 49ers - Kyle Pitts · TE Florida | Year: Junior

              Pick 13: Los Angeles Chargers - Alijah Vera-Tucker · OT USC | Year: Junior (RS)

              Pick 14: Minnesota Vikings - Gregory Rousseau · Edge rusher Miami | Year: Sophomore (RS)

              Pick 15: New England Patriots - Micah Parsons · LB Penn State | Year: Junior

              Pick 16: Arizona Cardinals - Jaelan Phillips · Edge rusher Miami | Year: Junior (RS)

              Pick 17: Las Vegas Raiders - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah · LB Notre Dame | Year: Junior (RS)

              Pick 18: Miami Dolphins - Christian Darrisaw · OT Virginia Tech | Year: Junior

              Pick19:Washington Football Team -Kadarius Toney · WR Florida | Year: Senior

              Pick 20: Chicago Bears - Jalen Mayfield · OT Michigan | Year: Sophomore (RS)

              Pick 21: Indianapolis Colts - Kwity Paye · Edge rusher Michigan | Year: Senior

              Pick 22:Tennessee Titans -Jaycee Horn · CB South Carolina | Year: Junior

              Pick 23: New York Jets - Travis Etienne · RB Clemson | Year: Senior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

              Pick 24: Pittsburgh Steelers -Teven Jenkins · OT Oklahoma State | Year: Senior (RS)

              Pick 25: Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevon Moehrig · S TCU | Year: Junior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE LOS ANGELES RAMS

              Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

              Pick 27: Baltimore Ravens - Azeez Ojulari · Edge rusher Georgia | Year: Sophomore (RS)

              Pick 28: New Orleans Saints - Nick Bolton · LB Missouri | Year: Junior

              Pick 29: Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Joe Tryon · Edge rusher Washington | Year: Junior (RS)

              Pick 30: Buffalo Bills - Aaron Robinson · CB UCF | Year: Senior (RS)

              Pick 31: Green Bay Packers - Tutu Atwell · WR School: Louisville | Year: Junior

              Pick 32: Kansas City Chiefs - Levi Onwuzurike · DT Washington | Year: Senior (RS)

              https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-zach-wilson-to-jets

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                SF adding Pitts as a TE is a good move. Reed had 4 TDs and only 26 receptions for the whole year in 10 games. I could live with Collins or Moehrig in areas of need that would likely also be BPA.

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                  SF adding Pitts as a TE is a good move. Reed had 4 TDs and only 26 receptions for the whole year in 10 games. I could live with Collins or Moehrig in areas of need that would likely also be BPA.

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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  SF adding Pitts as a TE is a good move. Reed had 4 TDs and only 26 receptions for the whole year in 10 games. I could live with Collins or Moehrig in areas of need that would likely also be BPA.

                  SFO  has George Kittle.   Why would they want to use a first round pick on another TE.   Not discounting Pitts' talent....just the 49ers priorities

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    SF adding Pitts as a TE is a good move. Reed had 4 TDs and only 26 receptions for the whole year in 10 games. I could live with Collins or Moehrig in areas of need that would likely also be BPA.

                    SFO  has George Kittle.   Why would they want to use a first round pick on another TE.   Not discounting Pitts' talent....just the 49ers priorities

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                    SFO  has George Kittle.   Why would they want to use a first round pick on another TE.   Not discounting Pitts' talent....just the 49ers priorities

                    Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.  

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                      SFO  has George Kittle.   Why would they want to use a first round pick on another TE.   Not discounting Pitts' talent....just the 49ers priorities

                      Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.  

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                      @sdbacker80 said:

                      Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.  

                      These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.

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                        @sdbacker80 said:

                        Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.  

                        These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.

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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.

                        Watched a handful of Gator games this year his box out ability in the red zone is Antonio Gatesesque...But he can run by you too. 
                         

                        He will be great Pro unless the injury bug hits.

                        Probably one the most can’t miss type prospects this year. 

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                          @sdbacker80 said:

                          Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.  

                          These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.

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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.

                          Is that what we have with  Njoku, Hooper and  Harrison? 

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                            @texasag1969 said:

                            These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.

                            Is that what we have with  Njoku, Hooper and  Harrison? 

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                            Is that what we have with  Njoku, Hooper and  Harrison? 

                            Not IMO. Pitts is on another level just like Kittle. And next year A&M's Wydermyer will be a 1st round TE too with very similar kind of play.

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                              To Be Scrupulously Fair.. we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving.  Classic case of a dude who's coasting on natural gifts - good enough for a roster spot, but not making anything resembling a leap to stardom. 

                              He couldn't come up with any of his many "How did he catch that?" without the skills. frustrating that he won't do the work to be consistent with that talent.

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                                To Be Scrupulously Fair.. we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving.  Classic case of a dude who's coasting on natural gifts - good enough for a roster spot, but not making anything resembling a leap to stardom. 

                                He couldn't come up with any of his many "How did he catch that?" without the skills. frustrating that he won't do the work to be consistent with that talent.

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                                we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving.

                                This year seemed different. I have to believe coaching played a significant role in that with the rest due to health.

                                We'll see what 2021, his 5th year brings.

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                                  we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving.

                                  This year seemed different. I have to believe coaching played a significant role in that with the rest due to health.

                                  We'll see what 2021, his 5th year brings.

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  This year seemed different. I have to believe coaching played a significant role in that with the rest due to health.

                                  We'll see what 2021, his 5th year brings.

                                  He should look at the other two guys in the TE room and say to himself:

                                  "Self, there's no reason I can't be the best TE here." 

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                                    Daniel Jerimiah's first mock is out... it's a one-rounder. Dj's pretty good IMO.

                                    I've boldfaced picks that surprise or mention prospects that have garnered some attention in tia's Who are you watching thread.

                                    For Jerimiah's pick-by-pick rationale go to his article.

                                    ** SPOLIER ALERT** DJ has us going LB...

                                    The NFL has released the list of underclassmen who have been granted early entry to the 2021 NFL Draft, marking the official start to Mock Draft Season! With 97 days until Round 1 kicks off in Cleveland, here's my first look at how the first 32 picks of the 2021 draft class could play out.

                                    NOTE: The final four spots below were ordered by seed, with regular season record as the tiebreaker. The official order for those slots will be determined by the outcome of the remaining playoff games.

                                    Pick 1: Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence · QB Clemson | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 2: New York Jets - Zach Wilson · QB BYU | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 3: Miami Dolphins - Ja'Marr Chase · WR LSU | Year: Junior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE HOUSTON TEXANS

                                    Pick 4: Atlanta Falcons - Trey Lance · QB North Dakota State | Year: Sophomore (RS)

                                    Pick 5: Cincinnati Bengals - Rashawn Slater · OT Northwestern | Year: Senior

                                    Pick 6: Philadelphia Eagles - Patrick Surtain · CB Alabama | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 7: Detroit Lions - DeVonta Smith · WR  Alabama | Year: Senior

                                    Pick 8: Carolina Panthers - Justin Fields - QB Ohio State | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 9: Denver Broncos - Caleb Farley - CB Virginia Tech | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    Pick 10: Dallas Cowboys - Penei Sewell · OT Oregon | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 11:New York Giants Jaylen Waddle · WR Alabama | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 12: San Francisco 49ers - Kyle Pitts · TE Florida | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 13: Los Angeles Chargers - Alijah Vera-Tucker · OT USC | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    Pick 14: Minnesota Vikings - Gregory Rousseau · Edge rusher Miami | Year: Sophomore (RS)

                                    Pick 15: New England Patriots - Micah Parsons · LB Penn State | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 16: Arizona Cardinals - Jaelan Phillips · Edge rusher Miami | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    Pick 17: Las Vegas Raiders - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah · LB Notre Dame | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    Pick 18: Miami Dolphins - Christian Darrisaw · OT Virginia Tech | Year: Junior

                                    Pick19:Washington Football Team -Kadarius Toney · WR Florida | Year: Senior

                                    Pick 20: Chicago Bears - Jalen Mayfield · OT Michigan | Year: Sophomore (RS)

                                    Pick 21: Indianapolis Colts - Kwity Paye · Edge rusher Michigan | Year: Senior

                                    Pick 22:Tennessee Titans -Jaycee Horn · CB South Carolina | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 23: New York Jets - Travis Etienne · RB Clemson | Year: Senior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

                                    Pick 24: Pittsburgh Steelers -Teven Jenkins · OT Oklahoma State | Year: Senior (RS)

                                    Pick 25: Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevon Moehrig · S TCU | Year: Junior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE LOS ANGELES RAMS

                                    Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    Pick 27: Baltimore Ravens - Azeez Ojulari · Edge rusher Georgia | Year: Sophomore (RS)

                                    Pick 28: New Orleans Saints - Nick Bolton · LB Missouri | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 29: Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Joe Tryon · Edge rusher Washington | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    Pick 30: Buffalo Bills - Aaron Robinson · CB UCF | Year: Senior (RS)

                                    Pick 31: Green Bay Packers - Tutu Atwell · WR School: Louisville | Year: Junior

                                    Pick 32: Kansas City Chiefs - Levi Onwuzurike · DT Washington | Year: Senior (RS)

                                    https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-zach-wilson-to-jets

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                                    Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

                                    well, my early secret pick didn't stay a secret.

                                    Football question:

                                        If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?

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                                      Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

                                      well, my early secret pick didn't stay a secret.

                                      Football question:

                                          If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?

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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      well, my early secret pick didn't stay a secret.

                                      Football question:

                                          If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?

                                      Which name fits easiest on the back of a jersey? ?

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                                        Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

                                        well, my early secret pick didn't stay a secret.

                                        Football question:

                                            If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?

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                                        If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?

                                        I thought that pick might get your attention... 

                                        First one proviso...I haven't rolled tape on any LBs to this point, so take this reply with an extra grain of salt or two, although I have seen Owusu twice in games.

                                        That said... Neither...

                                        I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.

                                        • Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
                                        • Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
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                                          If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?

                                          I thought that pick might get your attention... 

                                          First one proviso...I haven't rolled tape on any LBs to this point, so take this reply with an extra grain of salt or two, although I have seen Owusu twice in games.

                                          That said... Neither...

                                          I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.

                                          • Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
                                          • Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...

                                          I'd love to know where he's smuggling those 20lbs, because he looks like a 240lber IMO. 

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