The 2021 Click-bait, Mock Draft Collection Thread
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Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.
These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.
These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.
Watched a handful of Gator games this year his box out ability in the red zone is Antonio Gatesesque...But he can run by you too.
He will be great Pro unless the injury bug hits.
Probably one the most can’t miss type prospects this year.
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Pitts can easily be split out or you can go double TE and hurt a defense that way too.
These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.
These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.
Is that what we have with Njoku, Hooper and Harrison?
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These hybrid TEs are becoming much more valuable in the NFL offenses. Block, isolate on LBs, split out wide, etc. These guys have near WR speed and can body up on coverage like BB forwards. You can never have too many Kittles on a team.
Is that what we have with Njoku, Hooper and Harrison?
Is that what we have with Njoku, Hooper and Harrison?
Not IMO. Pitts is on another level just like Kittle. And next year A&M's Wydermyer will be a 1st round TE too with very similar kind of play.
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To Be Scrupulously Fair.. we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving. Classic case of a dude who's coasting on natural gifts - good enough for a roster spot, but not making anything resembling a leap to stardom.
He couldn't come up with any of his many "How did he catch that?" without the skills. frustrating that he won't do the work to be consistent with that talent.
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To Be Scrupulously Fair.. we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving. Classic case of a dude who's coasting on natural gifts - good enough for a roster spot, but not making anything resembling a leap to stardom.
He couldn't come up with any of his many "How did he catch that?" without the skills. frustrating that he won't do the work to be consistent with that talent.
we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving.
This year seemed different. I have to believe coaching played a significant role in that with the rest due to health.
We'll see what 2021, his 5th year brings.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
we would have that if Njoku gave half a shit about actually improving.
This year seemed different. I have to believe coaching played a significant role in that with the rest due to health.
We'll see what 2021, his 5th year brings.
This year seemed different. I have to believe coaching played a significant role in that with the rest due to health.
We'll see what 2021, his 5th year brings.
He should look at the other two guys in the TE room and say to himself:
"Self, there's no reason I can't be the best TE here."
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Daniel Jerimiah's first mock is out... it's a one-rounder. Dj's pretty good IMO.
I've boldfaced picks that surprise or mention prospects that have garnered some attention in tia's Who are you watching thread.
For Jerimiah's pick-by-pick rationale go to his article.
** SPOLIER ALERT** DJ has us going LB...
The NFL has released the list of underclassmen who have been granted early entry to the 2021 NFL Draft, marking the official start to Mock Draft Season! With 97 days until Round 1 kicks off in Cleveland, here's my first look at how the first 32 picks of the 2021 draft class could play out.
NOTE: The final four spots below were ordered by seed, with regular season record as the tiebreaker. The official order for those slots will be determined by the outcome of the remaining playoff games.
Pick 1: Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence · QB Clemson | Year: Junior
Pick 2: New York Jets - Zach Wilson · QB BYU | Year: Junior
Pick 3: Miami Dolphins - Ja'Marr Chase · WR LSU | Year: Junior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE HOUSTON TEXANS
Pick 4: Atlanta Falcons - Trey Lance · QB North Dakota State | Year: Sophomore (RS)
Pick 5: Cincinnati Bengals - Rashawn Slater · OT Northwestern | Year: Senior
Pick 6: Philadelphia Eagles - Patrick Surtain · CB Alabama | Year: Junior
Pick 7: Detroit Lions - DeVonta Smith · WR Alabama | Year: Senior
Pick 8: Carolina Panthers - Justin Fields - QB Ohio State | Year: Junior
Pick 9: Denver Broncos - Caleb Farley - CB Virginia Tech | Year: Junior (RS)
Pick 10: Dallas Cowboys - Penei Sewell · OT Oregon | Year: Junior
Pick 11:New York Giants Jaylen Waddle · WR Alabama | Year: Junior
Pick 12: San Francisco 49ers - Kyle Pitts · TE Florida | Year: Junior
Pick 13: Los Angeles Chargers - Alijah Vera-Tucker · OT USC | Year: Junior (RS)
Pick 14: Minnesota Vikings - Gregory Rousseau · Edge rusher Miami | Year: Sophomore (RS)
Pick 15: New England Patriots - Micah Parsons · LB Penn State | Year: Junior
Pick 16: Arizona Cardinals - Jaelan Phillips · Edge rusher Miami | Year: Junior (RS)
Pick 17: Las Vegas Raiders - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah · LB Notre Dame | Year: Junior (RS)
Pick 18: Miami Dolphins - Christian Darrisaw · OT Virginia Tech | Year: Junior
Pick19:Washington Football Team -Kadarius Toney · WR Florida | Year: Senior
Pick 20: Chicago Bears - Jalen Mayfield · OT Michigan | Year: Sophomore (RS)
Pick 21: Indianapolis Colts - Kwity Paye · Edge rusher Michigan | Year: Senior
Pick 22:Tennessee Titans -Jaycee Horn · CB South Carolina | Year: Junior
Pick 23: New York Jets - Travis Etienne · RB Clemson | Year: Senior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Pick 24: Pittsburgh Steelers -Teven Jenkins · OT Oklahoma State | Year: Senior (RS)
Pick 25: Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevon Moehrig · S TCU | Year: Junior --- PICK ACQUIRED FROM THE LOS ANGELES RAMS
Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)
Pick 27: Baltimore Ravens - Azeez Ojulari · Edge rusher Georgia | Year: Sophomore (RS)
Pick 28: New Orleans Saints - Nick Bolton · LB Missouri | Year: Junior
Pick 29: Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Joe Tryon · Edge rusher Washington | Year: Junior (RS)
Pick 30: Buffalo Bills - Aaron Robinson · CB UCF | Year: Senior (RS)
Pick 31: Green Bay Packers - Tutu Atwell · WR School: Louisville | Year: Junior
Pick 32: Kansas City Chiefs - Levi Onwuzurike · DT Washington | Year: Senior (RS)
https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-zach-wilson-to-jets
Pick 26: Cleveland Browns - Zaven Collins · LB Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)
well, my early secret pick didn't stay a secret.
Football question:
If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?
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If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?
I thought that pick might get your attention...
First one proviso...I haven't rolled tape on any LBs to this point, so take this reply with an extra grain of salt or two, although I have seen Owusu twice in games.
That said... Neither...
I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.
- Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
- Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?
I thought that pick might get your attention...
First one proviso...I haven't rolled tape on any LBs to this point, so take this reply with an extra grain of salt or two, although I have seen Owusu twice in games.
That said... Neither...
I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.
- Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
- Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
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well, my early secret pick didn't stay a secret.
Football question:
If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?
Collins highlight reel on youtube looks great.
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They don't call them highlight reels for nothing. Gotta look at game tape... See below.
Nick's 2019 highlight reel is awesome. But if only tape you ever watched was his 2020 outing against UGA, you'd probably not sign him as a UDFA.
Fortunately he had other games where he looks more like his old highlights. His
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Football question:
If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?
#1...JOK's Coverage Skills over Collins...
I keep looking at pick #15 if Parson's or JOK is still there.. Every team knows that Bill & the Patriots, may take offers to trade out of pick #15..it's his norm.. it would take us 350 trade value points to get us there.. Meaning a Obj trade/plus? or your only 2nd & a 5th.. I'd say a big.. No!..
Now if Parson's or JOK falls to Bears at pick #20?. That's 150 value points.. one of our 3rd's & a 6th..is very doable..
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I've read a few articles about how Woods wants to be able to use three safeties and two linebackers (instead of the usual 2 safeties and 3 linebackers), if this is true, the more versatile the LB draft prospect is, the more likely the Browns would want them IMO.
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I thought we were dumping Woods...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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If you were deciding for the Browns - and you could choose between Owusu-Kamorah or Collins...what would be the deciding factors?
I thought that pick might get your attention...
First one proviso...I haven't rolled tape on any LBs to this point, so take this reply with an extra grain of salt or two, although I have seen Owusu twice in games.
That said... Neither...
I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.
- Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
- Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.
- Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
- Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
Got it. I looked at Bolton - nick is bigger, but I've read where "experts" say he has stiff hips. So, it seems to me, obviously strictly a guess, that he isn't one to turn and cover in the pros so I didn't have him in my top three. But Bolton is a serious tackling machine, and a very smart player... you could very well be right about him.
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I take Nick Bolton, who I have seen once in a game. At 6'0 and 235 Nick is right-sized for a MIKE today and he flies around the field.
- Owusu is a 6'1, 215# hybrid LB. While that's a piece that is growing in import in the NFL, it's not one I'll invest a first-rounder in anytime soon... especially when I don't have a MIKE.
- Collins? At 6'4, 260 I see an Edge or 3-4 OLB... Tape may convince me of a SAM or WILL fit, but until it does...
Got it. I looked at Bolton - nick is bigger, but I've read where "experts" say he has stiff hips. So, it seems to me, obviously strictly a guess, that he isn't one to turn and cover in the pros so I didn't have him in my top three. But Bolton is a serious tackling machine, and a very smart player... you could very well be right about him.
Got it. I looked at Bolton - nick is bigger, but I've read where "experts" say he has stiff hips. So, it seems to me, obviously strictly a guess, that he isn't one to turn and cover in the pros so I didn't have him in my top three. But Bolton is a serious tackling machine, and a very smart player... you could very well be right about him.
He's good in Zone Pass D with everything in front of him. Hips? Dunno... but if my Mike can't back-peddle and fly open to run with a swifter receiver? I can live with that...
In one tape (I think it was the highlight reel) he did follow a WR out wide left and the QB threw to his man. Coverage was good and the pass was incomplete... of course replay showed a fairly subtle hold that was instrumental.
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Someone named Daniel Jeremiah just updated his mock for NFL.com and has Zaven falling to Browns in the first
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Someone named Daniel Jeremiah just updated his mock for NFL.com and has Zaven falling to Browns in the first
Someone named Daniel Jeremiah just updated his mock for NFL.com and has Zaven falling to Browns in the first
Saw that... here's a round one roundup...
Browns first-round mock draft roundup (1/26/21)
Cleveland needs help all across the defense, so who do some draft experts believe the Browns will select in the first round?
By Thomas Moore@Tom_RedRight88 Jan 26, 2021, 2:31pm ESTSteve Palazzolo at Pro Football Focus:
Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri: Value and need match up for the Browns for the second straight year, as Bolton is the top linebacker on the board, and Cleveland must have better play from that unit. Bolton flies around the field, and despite taking a step back in 2020, his 2019 coverage grade of 90.4 shows what he’s capable of. Bolton has broken up 11 passes over the last two years, but he must cut down on his 28 missed tackles during that same period.
Aaron Robinson, DB, Central Florida: The Browns had major issues in their secondary last season, which started in training camp when rookie safety Grant Delpit tore his Achilles tendon and second-year corner Greedy Williams hurt his shoulder. Both second-rounders ended up missing the entire season. With Robinson, Cleveland could add a big, aggressive defensive back who can play multiple positions. The 6-1 Alabama transfer played corner and nickelback for the Knights, and I could see him playing some safety in the NFL. I moved him up my rankings after watching more tape of his last two seasons.
Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa: Collins is very similar to Leighton Vander Esch when he was coming out of Boise State. Collins has the same size, length and athleticism. Cleveland needs to upgrade at the linebacker position.
Vinnie Iyer at The Sporting News:
Azeez Ojulari, OLB, Georgia: The Browns have Myles Garrett anchoring their defensive line and Denzel Ward leading their secondary. They could use some complementary pieces there, but they also were short on playmaking on the second level Ojulari has jumped into first-round consideration because he’s a unique pass-rusher who can fit a variety of schemes and alignments and has potential both in stopping the run and in coverage. Joe Woods is used to that type of linebacker from his 49ers days.
Jordan Reid at The Draft Network:
Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa: The Browns’ lack of talent on the second level is evident. The team hardly ever places early-round emphasis on addressing it, but Collins is a piece that should make them contemplate that philosophy. A versatile piece, he can be used as an edge rusher as well as a second-level threat.
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2021/1/26/22250770/cleveland-browns-mock-draft-roundup-1-26-21Azeez Ojulari, OLB, Georgia: The Browns were middle of the road in getting after the quarterback and there is little depth behind Myles Garrett. Ojulari had a standout season for the Bulldogs and while he hasn’t drawn the national attention of Kwity Paye or Jaelan Phillips, he’s a legit terror off the edge.
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