I Guess That Settles That

[5150k9]

@the-gipper said:

I guess that settles that.

"That" being:    who was most responsible for the Patriots run....Belichick or Brady.

I had always come down on the side of Brady.    I think this vindicates that position. 

Slow your roll Gip,. My god man, I know you’re probably gonna light me up with a whole bunch of six syllable words or whatever, but you’ve got to get a grip on yourself.

[Bob806]

@the-gipper said:

Can you name the other 4? 

Craig Morton ( Dallas, Denver)

Peyton Manning (Indy, Denver)

Can't think of the other 2 yet

[Tour2ma]

@nickers said:

I have said in the past... Bill B. is a big ZERO without TB12... And there's nothing anyone can tell me to make me believe otherwise...

2008... Pats go 10-5 with Cassel as their QB...... but they did have zero ties...

2009... Cassel becomes KC's starter and promptly goes 4-11.

[nickers]

@tour2ma said:

2008... Pats go 10-5 with Cassel as their QB...... but they did have zero ties...

2009... Cassel becomes KC's starter and promptly goes 4-11.

Cassel didn't win a sausage... End of story.. The Pats still had the better team and McDaniels callinin the plays...

[The Gipper]

@5150k9 said:

Slow your roll Gip,. My god man, I know you’re probably gonna light me up with a whole bunch of six syllable words or whatever, but you’ve got to get a grip on yourself.

My roll is slow, and I certainly have a grip.  Why would you think otherwise?  

And not  6 syllable words:   1 syllable words:   Truth.  Peace!!

[The Gipper]

@bob806 said:

Craig Morton ( Dallas, Denver)

Peyton Manning (Indy, Denver)

Can't think of the other 2 yet

Those are 2.

Answers below:

Tom Brady  will have a chance to become only the third  QB in history to win a Championship with  2 teams.

Do you know the other 2?

Peyton Manning. Colts and Broncos and Tobin Rote Lions/Chargers

Tom Brady will now also become the 4th QB to start a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

Can you name the other 3? 

Peyton Manning,  Kurt Warner, Craig Morton...actually that is it...only 3 others. 

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

2008... Pats go 10-5 with Cassel as their QB...... but they did have zero ties...

2009... Cassel becomes KC's starter and promptly goes 4-11.

2020:   BB's team goes under  .500

2020:  Tom Brady goes to the Super Bowl. 

[The Gipper]

[calfoxwc]

LOL

No Brady, no Gronk, the real butticheck head coach is revealed.

[Tour2ma]

@nickers said:

Cassel didn't win a sausage... End of story.. The Pats still had the better team and McDaniels callinin the plays...

... and Bill...

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

... and Bill...

Bill is not a Bum.  No one really claims that.   But his record as an NFL coach without Tom Brady as his starting QB is  62-73.    As I have said, he can be a playoff caliber coach,  but he owes his championships and much of his reputation to one No. 12. 

(by the way....the guys from PTI, and other ESPN and other network commentators came to that same conclusion.)

[TexasAg1969]

@the-gipper said:

Tom Brady  will have a chance to become only the third  QB in history to win a Championship with  2 teams.

Do you know the other 2?

Tom Brady will now also become the 4th QB to start a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

Can you name the other 3? 

PEYTON

EDIT: I did not peak at the answer.

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

PEYTON

EDIT: I did not peak at the answer.

Answers given above. 

[nickers]

@the-gipper said:

Bill is not a Bum.  No one really claims that.   But his record as an NFL coach without Tom Brady as his starting QB is  62-73.    As I have said, he can be a playoff caliber coach,  but he owes his championships and much of his reputation to one No. 12. 

(by the way....the guys from PTI, and other ESPN and other network commentators came to that same conclusion.)

Bill is a bum! And a CHEATER!

[Tour2ma]

62-73?

Really going to count his Browns time?

Plus someone need to show their math...

Fun fact...

Brady with Bill... 219-64 for a 77.4 win percentage...

Brady no Bill... 11-5 for a 68.8 win percentage.

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

62-73?

Really going to count his Browns time?

Yes...he WAS an NFL head coach here for 4 years. 

Plus someone need to show their math...

Got that data from ESPN

[Tour2ma]

[The Gipper]

Its over.   Unless you think that the Pats are going to trade for like Aaron Rodgers.   Even if they got like Matt Stafford or DeShaun Watson  that would not put them in any sort of favorites position in the AFC.

If they get Rodgers....that's another story.  

[The Gipper]

BB will be 69 years old in April

See this from just this past October 8th: 

For the past 53 years, George Halas has held the record as the oldest person to ever serve as a head coach in an NFL game, but that's going to change on Sunday when the Texans host the Jaguars. After firing Bill O'Brien on Monday, the Texans decided to replace him with interim coach Romeo Crennel, which is notable because it's Crennel who's going to break the record. 

When Houston's Week 5 games kicks off, Crennel is going to be 73 years and 112 days old, which means he's officially going to become the oldest head coach in NFL history. 

The current record is held by Halas, who was 72 years and 318 days old when he coached the final game of his career in December 1967. To put into perspective how rare it is to see a coach of Crennel's age on the sideline, just consider this: Since Halas' retirement, there has only been one coach who even came remotely close to catching him and that was Marv Levy, who was roughly eight months away from turning 73 when he coached his final game with the Buffalo Bills in December 1997. 

Although he's only been on the job for a few days, it looks like the 73-year-old Crennel is already starting to fit in with the younger guys in Houston. 

Though....note that, not including Romeo who was interim,  BB is not the oldest permanent HC in the NFL:

Pete Carroll isn't the oldest coach ever in NFL history, but he's getting close. The Seahawks head coach turned 69 on Sept. 15.

So Carroll is about 8 months older than Belichick. 

[ballpeen]

@the-gipper said:

I guess that settles that.

"That" being:    who was most responsible for the Patriots run....Belichick or Brady.

I had always come down on the side of Brady.    I think this vindicates that position. 

It doesn't take a genius to figure out it is always about players.  Name a coach who did anything with crap players?