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The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Speed kills..

    Meanwhile... took FanSpeak's mock out for a spin using DraftTek's rankings (you chose from about a half dozen) and rankings still vary widely... to say the least.

    • First surprise was my first pick: Barmore still there at #26.
    • An even bigger surprise with Collins falling to Pick 59... I took him as my Will and situational MG bookend.
    • Hufanga at #89 is a name from my DraftNetwork mocks; he had a higher ranking here. He can play both Safety spots, but seems headed for FS.
    • Next came a LB pair... tsun's McGrone and tOSU's Werner... I think I'll assign them to be roommates... McGrone will be my MIKE while Werner works mostly as my SAM, but backs up both other LB roles.
    • Another Safety at #129, and one I think I scouted last year... at any rate he's a 6'0, 200#, SS candidate with some FS potential and a ton of ST potential.
    • A pair of WRs next, a true Mutt & Jeff (look it up kids) pair... Eskridge is a 5'9, 190# ankle-breaker while Grimes is 6'4, 215# with sub-4-4 speed (estimated).
    • Wells is a big TE, 6'4, 250# I know nothing about other than he went to TCU and they pass a lot... I was just ready for the mock to be over and  there wasn't a QB/RB/IOL/OT I was remotely interested in...

    Both tia's CB, Vincent, and my QB, Mond were taken a couple slots before I was poised to take them. Both were dipped out of the pile well above their ranking. Just made me look at more players I'd not read about. So my file and list of players to scout is growing nicely.

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    I don't think Collins will be there in the 2nd round either. He would be more likely to go even before our first pick IMO.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    Dearest Gipper,

    Since I was several weeks ahead of the experts in calling that Fields being the lock at #2 was shaky and given Wilson's tape the speculation would start after the NU game....   Does this make me an "expert"? 

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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    If I recall, you actually said that Fields could drop out the top half of the first round.  And all I said was that  most of the "experts"  and that most mock drafts  still had him in the Top 5. Which they may still do.   I have not checked lately.  I also said don't be surprised if Zach Wilson jumps over Fields, not because Fields would be "demoted" its just that  people would begin to see how good Wilson could be..   I also said that if you think about it,  after  Lawrence, the next team that needed a QB may not be until pick 9 with Carolina....if NYJ decided to stick with Darnold.

    A lot  of that has changed now.  Lions want to move Stafford, so they at 7 will be in the market (I think that is where Kiper has Fields going).     Could Philly at  6 want a QB also?  And Kiper has the Falcons taking  Wilson at #4.   I had no inkling that ATL might have wanted to do that....but it makes some sense. New GM, new coach....they may want a new QB...like Detroit. 

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by SdBacker80

    I’ll be shocked if Fields is outside of the Top 10.
    You have his hometown team at 4.

    Maybe Philly 

    Carolina

    Detroit

    Possibly Denver.

    Maybe NE moves up. 

    He needs time - he could have used some more game reps but there is no denying the guy has some tools.  

  • I don't think Collins will be there in the 2nd round either. He would be more likely to go even before our first pick IMO.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @texasag1969 said:

    I don't think Collins will be there in the 2nd round either. He would be more likely to go even before our first pick IMO.

    I thought you were a DraftTek disciple? 😉

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I don't think Collins will be there in the 2nd round either. He would be more likely to go even before our first pick IMO.

    I thought you were a DraftTek disciple? 😉

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    I thought you were a DraftTek disciple? 😉

    Most of the time. ? Just not this time. But I would not mind Bolton either as out 1st rounder.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by

    This one gets us pretty good pretty quick on defense.. Nasirildeen is this season's Simmons.

    26. Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58. Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE, Wake Forest
    89. Baron Browning LB, Ohio State
    91. Hamsah Nasirildeen S, Florida State
    110. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
    130. Rashad Weaver EDGE, Pittsburgh
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Bryce Thompson CB, Tennessee
    250. Chris Rumph II EDGE, Duke

    More about Rumph

    Imatorbhebhe and Thompson have #1 potential which is really all you can ask for from day3's

  • This one gets us pretty good pretty quick on defense.. Nasirildeen is this season's Simmons.

    26. Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58. Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE, Wake Forest
    89. Baron Browning LB, Ohio State
    91. Hamsah Nasirildeen S, Florida State
    110. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
    130. Rashad Weaver EDGE, Pittsburgh
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Bryce Thompson CB, Tennessee
    250. Chris Rumph II EDGE, Duke

    More about Rumph

    Imatorbhebhe and Thompson have #1 potential which is really all you can ask for from day3's

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149

    @unsympathetic said:

    This one gets us pretty good pretty quick on defense.. Nasirildeen is this season's Simmons.

    26. Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58. Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE, Wake Forest
    89. Baron Browning LB, Ohio State
    91. Hamsah Nasirildeen S, Florida State
    110. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
    130. Rashad Weaver EDGE, Pittsburgh
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Bryce Thompson CB, Tennessee
    250. Chris Rumph II EDGE, Duke

    More about Rumph

    Imatorbhebhe and Thompson have #1 potential which is really all you can ask for from day3's

    Not sure Imatorbhebhe will be there. I would think he goes way way before that. WR is more important then Db at this point

  • This one gets us pretty good pretty quick on defense.. Nasirildeen is this season's Simmons.

    26. Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58. Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE, Wake Forest
    89. Baron Browning LB, Ohio State
    91. Hamsah Nasirildeen S, Florida State
    110. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
    130. Rashad Weaver EDGE, Pittsburgh
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Bryce Thompson CB, Tennessee
    250. Chris Rumph II EDGE, Duke

    More about Rumph

    Imatorbhebhe and Thompson have #1 potential which is really all you can ask for from day3's

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @unsympathetic said:

    89. Baron Browning LB, Ohio State

    Do you think Browning has the goods to be a Mike at the next level?

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by

    Writeup on Browning - "his strengths can't be taught and his weaknesses appear correctable".  Never a bad thing to grab a year's #1 LB [of the class going into college]

  • Writeup on Browning - "his strengths can't be taught and his weaknesses appear correctable".  Never a bad thing to grab a year's #1 LB [of the class going into college]

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @unsympathetic said:

    Never a bad thing to grab a year's #1 LB [of the class going into college]

    Even if he did not develop in college?

    He's physically gifted to be sure, but lesser athletes out produced him at tOSU... and not by a little.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    89. Baron Browning LB, Ohio State

    Do you think Browning has the goods to be a Mike at the next level?

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen

    @tour2ma said:

    Do you think Browning has the goods to be a Mike at the next level?

    Based on everything we have read about Woods and the D he would like to run, I don't think a "mike" is what we are going to be looking for.  Why draft a player high who you are probably going to march off the field 40% of the time?

    JMO

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by

    At least one of these WR should be worth keeping.. last two have elite athleticism to improve ST/backup spots

    26.  Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58.  Jevon Holland S, Oregon
    89.  Israel Mukuamu CB, South Carolina
    91.  Marvin Wilson IDL, Florida State
    110. Patrick Jones II EDGE, Pittsburgh
    130. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    168. Austin Watkins WR, UAB
    206. Chris Rumph II EDGE, Duke
    250. Adam Anderson LB, Georgia

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by

    Yeah or nay 

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  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by

    One starter at S, at least 2 and possibly 3 LB starters.. Also bit of a homer pick but Farrell would be our best blocking TE.  Neal was talked about as a first-rounder last season.

    26.  Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58.  Jevon Holland S, Oregon
    89.  Jordan Smith EDGE, UAB
    91.  Elijah Moore WR, Ole Miss
    110. Joe Tryon EDGE, Washington
    130. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Luke Farrell TE, Ohio State
    250. Lorenzo Neal IDL, Purdue

  • One starter at S, at least 2 and possibly 3 LB starters.. Also bit of a homer pick but Farrell would be our best blocking TE.  Neal was talked about as a first-rounder last season.

    26.  Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58.  Jevon Holland S, Oregon
    89.  Jordan Smith EDGE, UAB
    91.  Elijah Moore WR, Ole Miss
    110. Joe Tryon EDGE, Washington
    130. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Luke Farrell TE, Ohio State
    250. Lorenzo Neal IDL, Purdue

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @unsympathetic said:


    250. Lorenzo Neal IDL, Purdue

    Jr?  

    If so, wow... Now I feel like I'm getting older.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by

    Yup, he's the fullback's son!

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    so, I've been working on my mock draft. It's tough. I think the first pick for the Browns would be Zaven Collins, but I really believe

    he's gone by #26....

  • so, I've been working on my mock draft. It's tough. I think the first pick for the Browns would be Zaven Collins, but I really believe

    he's gone by #26....

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    so, I've been working on my mock draft. It's tough. I think the first pick for the Browns would be Zaven Collins, but I really believe

    he's gone by #26....

    I think you are right, but I like the pick. If he is there he will be BPA IMO.