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The "It's-later-than-you-think" 2021 Mock Draft Thread

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  • C calfoxwc

    so, I've been working on my mock draft. It's tough. I think the first pick for the Browns would be Zaven Collins, but I really believe

    he's gone by #26....

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #253

    @calfoxwc said:

    so, I've been working on my mock draft. It's tough. I think the first pick for the Browns would be Zaven Collins, but I really believe

    he's gone by #26....

    I think you are right, but I like the pick. If he is there he will be BPA IMO.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #254

    just proving 1st pick is a mess...never gunna happen..but if it does? 😎


    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 26: Carlos Basham, DE/OLB, Wake Forest (A)
    Round 2 Pick 27: Patrick Jones, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 3 Pick 25: Kary Vincent, CB, LSU (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 27: Richie Grant, FS/SS, UCF (C)
    Round 4 Pick 5: Zaven Collins, DE/OLB, Tulsa (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 27: Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 25: Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (A)
    Round 6 Pick 27: Carson Green, OT, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 7 Pick 30: Tuf Borland, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A)

    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick

    https://www.first-pick.com/NFL/Share.aspx?id=d959c1ee-1d89-4eca-8d12-d8a43824b0e3                                                          

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    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #255

    @gumby73   dear Christ, please...a different color scheme.

    👍
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @gumby73   dear Christ, please...a different color scheme.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #256

    @tiamat63 said:

    @gumby73   dear Christ, please...a different color scheme.

    yeah, i don't get it.. Posted clear the 1st time, than go back in & it's (blue, as it should be 😉 ) went back in & posted clear link..thanks!

    Edit-- btw, my team score ranked 32nd of 32 teams 😛

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    tiamat63T 1 Reply
  • gumby73G gumby73

    just proving 1st pick is a mess...never gunna happen..but if it does? 😎


    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 26: Carlos Basham, DE/OLB, Wake Forest (A)
    Round 2 Pick 27: Patrick Jones, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 3 Pick 25: Kary Vincent, CB, LSU (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 27: Richie Grant, FS/SS, UCF (C)
    Round 4 Pick 5: Zaven Collins, DE/OLB, Tulsa (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 27: Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 25: Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (A)
    Round 6 Pick 27: Carson Green, OT, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 7 Pick 30: Tuf Borland, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A)

    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick

    https://www.first-pick.com/NFL/Share.aspx?id=d959c1ee-1d89-4eca-8d12-d8a43824b0e3                                                          

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #257

    @gumby73 said:

    just proving 1st pick is a mess...never gunna happen..but if it does? 😎


    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 26: Carlos Basham, DE/OLB, Wake Forest (A)
    Round 2 Pick 27: Patrick Jones, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 3 Pick 25: Kary Vincent, CB, LSU (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 27: Richie Grant, FS/SS, UCF (C)
    Round 4 Pick 5: Zaven Collins, DE/OLB, Tulsa (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 27: Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 25: Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida (A)
    Round 6 Pick 27: Carson Green, OT, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 7 Pick 30: Tuf Borland, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A)

    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick

    https://www.first-pick.com/NFL/Share.aspx?id=d959c1ee-1d89-4eca-8d12-d8a43824b0e3                                                          

    So...you have Zaven Collins being taken by the Browns in the 4th round.......but everyone else on here has him probably going higher than where the Browns pick in round One?

    So  WTF is up with that? 

    Are there  2 Zaven Collins that play LB in this draft? 

    😂
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tiamat63 said:

    @gumby73   dear Christ, please...a different color scheme.

    yeah, i don't get it.. Posted clear the 1st time, than go back in & it's (blue, as it should be 😉 ) went back in & posted clear link..thanks!

    Edit-- btw, my team score ranked 32nd of 32 teams 😛

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #258

    @gumby73 said:

    yeah, i don't get it.. Posted clear the 1st time, than go back in & it's (blue, as it should be 😉 ) went back in & posted clear link..thanks!

    Edit-- btw, my team score ranked 32nd of 32 teams 😛

    I forgot to ask - you took Kary Vincent in the 3rd.  How far above his current projected draft stock was that for your particular simulation? 

    gumby73G 1 Reply
  • U Unsympathetic

    One starter at S, at least 2 and possibly 3 LB starters.. Also bit of a homer pick but Farrell would be our best blocking TE.  Neal was talked about as a first-rounder last season.

    26.  Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58.  Jevon Holland S, Oregon
    89.  Jordan Smith EDGE, UAB
    91.  Elijah Moore WR, Ole Miss
    110. Joe Tryon EDGE, Washington
    130. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Luke Farrell TE, Ohio State
    250. Lorenzo Neal IDL, Purdue

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on
    #259

    @unsympathetic said:

    One starter at S, at least 2 and possibly 3 LB starters.. Also bit of a homer pick but Farrell would be our best blocking TE.  Neal was talked about as a first-rounder last season.

    26.  Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58.  Jevon Holland S, Oregon
    89.  Jordan Smith EDGE, UAB
    91.  Elijah Moore WR, Ole Miss
    110. Joe Tryon EDGE, Washington
    130. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
    168. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois
    206. Luke Farrell TE, Ohio State
    250. Lorenzo Neal IDL, Purdue

    I dont know man 

    we ran a 4-2-5 and a 4-1-6 most of the time last year i am thinking we need more cb

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @gumby73 said:

    yeah, i don't get it.. Posted clear the 1st time, than go back in & it's (blue, as it should be 😉 ) went back in & posted clear link..thanks!

    Edit-- btw, my team score ranked 32nd of 32 teams 😛

    I forgot to ask - you took Kary Vincent in the 3rd.  How far above his current projected draft stock was that for your particular simulation? 

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #260

    @tiamat63 said:

    I forgot to ask - you took Kary Vincent in the 3rd.  How far above his current projected draft stock was that for your particular simulation? 

     on the 1st pick site.. In the past 2 weeks, Kary has gone from a easy 5th round pick at our pick #169. To a earlier 4th, than the browns pick at, in the 4th.. I sat on it, and missed on him twice in the 4th at picks #111(4.5) or #131... TDN now has Vincent ranked as their 119th prospect... 

    You saw what happen to Chinn's stock after your post last season? GM's must have you bugged 😁.. keep grinding & finding...?

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
    😂
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tiamat63 said:

    I forgot to ask - you took Kary Vincent in the 3rd.  How far above his current projected draft stock was that for your particular simulation? 

     on the 1st pick site.. In the past 2 weeks, Kary has gone from a easy 5th round pick at our pick #169. To a earlier 4th, than the browns pick at, in the 4th.. I sat on it, and missed on him twice in the 4th at picks #111(4.5) or #131... TDN now has Vincent ranked as their 119th prospect... 

    You saw what happen to Chinn's stock after your post last season? GM's must have you bugged 😁.. keep grinding & finding...?

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #261

    @gumby73 said:

     on the 1st pick site.. In the past 2 weeks, Kary has gone from a easy 5th round pick at our pick #169. To a earlier 4th, than the browns pick at, in the 4th.. I sat on it, and missed on him twice in the 4th at picks #111(4.5) or #131... TDN now has Vincent ranked as their 119th prospect... 

    You saw what happen to Chinn's stock after your post last season? GM's must have you bugged 😁.. keep grinding & finding...?

    .... They're onto me.

    👍
  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #262

    Watkins is arguably winning the senior bowl right now. Johnson talks about being a first rounder. This one from tdn only "misses" on odeyingbo instead of basham

    26.  Zaven Collins LB, Tulsa
    58.  Dayo Odeyingbo EDGE, Vanderbilt
    89.  Hamsah Nasirildeen S, Florida State
    91.  Kary Vincent Jr. CB, LSU
    110. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
    130. Tedarrell Slaton IDL, Florida
    168. Patrick Johnson EDGE, Tulane
    206. Austin Watkins WR, UAB
    250. Lorenzo Neal IDL, Purdue

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    I saw another mock that had Patrick Jones II as the Browns #26 overall pick. I'm curious to where most draft sites have him.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #263

    @dutch-oven said:

    I saw another mock that had Patrick Jones II as the Browns #26 overall pick. I'm curious to where most draft sites have him.

    Watching some of his 2020 right now.

    He's like a bigger version of Alex Highsmith from last year.   Maybe not as technical or refined in his counter move, and his dip & bend at the edge hasn't really been on display yet.    But he has a hell of a first step, long arms and a relentless motor.  

    edit:  Looks a bit like Bud Dupree when the Steelers drafted him.  In terms of his abilities vis a vis his raw style that needs time and coaching.

    👍
  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #264

    Reading this article in DBN suggests LB won't be our first or second round pick due to our actual alignments not looking at a "4-3".. Certainly could be with whoever's left in the 3rd, but not high.  Note, of course, that TDN moved Wade's listed position to "base defense strong safety/big nickel" but has left him in the CB list.

    Marco Wilson was somehow picked by McShay to be a top50 player.

    26.  Kadarius Toney WR, Florida
    58.  Levi Onwuzurike IDL, Washington
    89.  Hamsah Nasirildeen S, Florida State
    91.  Kary Vincent Jr. CB, LSU
    110. Patrick Jones II EDGE, Pittsburgh
    130. Justin Hilliard LB, Ohio State
    168. Shi Smith WR, South Carolina
    206. Marco Wilson CB, Florida
    250. Tuf Borland LB, Ohio State

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
    gumby73G 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #265

    Current Mock Draft Database Top 5 selections:

    NFL Mock Draft Site
    Date
    No. 1
    No. 2
    No. 3
    No. 4
    No. 5
    1/29
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    J.Chase
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    1/28
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    D.Smith
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    1/28
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    J.Fields
    R.Slater
    P.Sewell
    1/27
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    Z.Wilson
    M.Parsons
    1/27
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    Z.Wilson
    J.Chase
    1/27
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    J.Chase
    J.Fields
    K.Pitts
    1/27
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    D.Smith
    P.Surtain
    P.Sewell
    1/27
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    J.Chase
    J.Fields
    P.Surtain
    1/26
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    D.Smith
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    1/26
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    D.Smith
    Z.Wilson
    R.Slater
    1/26
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    D.Smith
    M.Parsons
    P.Sewell
    1/26
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    M.Parsons
    P.Sewell
    R.Slater
    1/25
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    A.Ojulari
    D.Smith
    R.Slater
    1/25
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    D.Smith
    K.Pitts
    C.Darrisaw
    1/24
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    D.Smith
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    1/23
    T.Shough
    D.Leal
    J.Ross
    P.Winfrey
    D.Stingley
    1/21
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    J.Chase
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    1/19
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    Z.Wilson
    D.Smith
    1/18
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    D.Smith
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    1/18
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    J.Chase
    C.Barmore
    P.Sewell
    1/18
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    Z.Wilson
    R.Slater
    1/15
    T.Lawrence
    D.Smith
    J.Chase
    G.Rousseau
    P.Sewell
    1/15
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    J.Chase
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    1/15
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    D.Smith
    M.Jones
    P.Sewell
    1/14
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    J.Chase
    D.Smith
    1/11
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    D.Smith
    P.Sewell
    J.Chase
    1/18
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    J.Fields
    P.Surtain
    P.Sewell
    1/9
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    Z.Wilson
    M.Parsons
    P.Sewell
    1/7
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    J.Fields
    Z.Wilson
    R.Slater
    1/7
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    K.Paye
    M.Parsons
    1/6
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    J.Chase
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    1/6
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    P.Sewell
    P.Surtain
    M.Parsons
    1/4
    T.Lawrence
    J.Fields
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    K.Pitts
    PFF
    1/4
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    J.Fields
    J.Chase
    1/4
    T.Lawrence
    P.Sewell
    D.Smith
    J.Fields
    J.Chase
    1/1
    T.Lawrence
    Z.Wilson
    P.Sewell
    J.Fields
    J.Chase
     
  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #266

    ^^^^^^^ Gip's above links.

    Walter 1.          #26  Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah  OLB, Notre Dame

    Walter 2.          #26  Carlos Basham, DE/DT, Wake Forest  

    CBS:Edwards #26 Jayson Oweh EDGE Penn State 

    Sport's Banks #26 Christian Barmore, DL, Alabama 

    Alpha               #26 NICK BOLTON - LB - MISSOURI  

    San Diego       #26 Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa 

    CBS:Trapasso #26 Azeez Ojulari LB, Georgia 

    Draftek            #26 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame OLB 

    Riggo's Rag    #26 Zaven Collins LB Tulsa 

    Big Lead         #26 Zaven Collins LB Tulsa   

    Game Haus   #26 Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia 

    CBS: Wilson  #26 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB Notre Dame

    Draft ID          #26 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah | Notre Dame, LB 

    Draft Blaster #26 Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami

    Tankathon    #26 Joseph Ossai OLB Texas

    Walter 2022   #2 DeMarvin Leal DE Texas A&M  -  LOLOLOLOLOL (you put it there Gip-so I had to).? 

    Football Nick #26 Jaelan Phillips  DE  Miami-Fl  

    Spts Gaming #26 Carlos Basham,jr. DE Wake Fores

       

    NDB              #26 Jevon Holland, Safety, Oregon 

    Draft Blitz    #26 LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (Notre Dame) 

    Spin Zone    #26 Jaelan Phillips  DE  Miami-Fl   

    MDB Mecca #26 Kadarius Toney, Wide Receiver, Florida 

    EDS               #26 Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa 

    Fueled BS    #26 Kadarius Toney WR Florida

    MDB kkunert #26 Eric Stokes CB Georgia

    Draft Room #26 Jay Tufele (DT) – USC 

    Sports Naut #26 Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa

    NFL Mocks #26 Rashod BatemanWR Minnesota 

    Fox                #23 Joseph Ossai, Edge, Texas  (trade) 

    Loaded         #23 Joseph Ossai, Edge, Texas  (trade) 

    Fanspot        #23 DE Patrick Jones (Pittsburgh) (trade) 

    Overreaction #23 Carlos Basham, 3-4DE, Wake Fores (trade)

    SBNation      #23 Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri (trade)  

    MDB:Pressley #22 Shaun Wade, Cornerback, Ohio State (trade) -Note : tia's favorite.  LOL!

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #267

    Thanks.  I thought about digging deeper into that to see what they had the Browns taking but I was not patient enough to take the time to do so. 

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #268

    May slightly change draft strategies -- Latest news from Stefanski is expectation of full recovery for Greedy and Delpit with no long-term effects.  Greedy may be a CB3 moving forward and in a 4-2-5 he's still a starter.

    Sure, Stefanski could be talking his book -- or he might just be truthful.. It's Monday, I'm optimistic about the week.

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
    The GipperT T 2 Replies
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  • AxeA Axe wrote on
    #269

    Yeah, so am I...

    Go Bucs!!! Go Browns!!

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  • U Unsympathetic

    May slightly change draft strategies -- Latest news from Stefanski is expectation of full recovery for Greedy and Delpit with no long-term effects.  Greedy may be a CB3 moving forward and in a 4-2-5 he's still a starter.

    Sure, Stefanski could be talking his book -- or he might just be truthful.. It's Monday, I'm optimistic about the week.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #270

    @unsympathetic said:

    May slightly change draft strategies -- Latest news from Stefanski is expectation of full recovery for Greedy and Delpit with no long-term effects.  Greedy may be a CB3 moving forward and in a 4-2-5 he's still a starter.

    Sure, Stefanski could be talking his book -- or he might just be truthful.. It's Monday, I'm optimistic about the week.

    Are we really down with this   4-2-5  setup as the primary defense?    It just seems that you are begging teams to run over you....as seems to have happened to the Browns somewhat. 

  • U Unsympathetic

    May slightly change draft strategies -- Latest news from Stefanski is expectation of full recovery for Greedy and Delpit with no long-term effects.  Greedy may be a CB3 moving forward and in a 4-2-5 he's still a starter.

    Sure, Stefanski could be talking his book -- or he might just be truthful.. It's Monday, I'm optimistic about the week.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #271

    @unsympathetic said:

    May slightly change draft strategies -- Latest news from Stefanski is expectation of full recovery for Greedy and Delpit with no long-term effects.  Greedy may be a CB3 moving forward and in a 4-2-5 he's still a starter.

    Sure, Stefanski could be talking his book -- or he might just be truthful.. It's Monday, I'm optimistic about the week.

    That is great news that could really affect our 2021 draft choices. A weakness due to injury that could see instant cure. Now get those LBs and another Garrett twin.?

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #272

    Presuming they actually value LB

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
    The GipperT 1 Reply
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