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  • According to Adam Schefter the LA Rams have traded Jared Goff, two future first round picks, and a future third round pick to the Detroit Lions for Matthew Stafford. 

    Holy cannoli. I can't imagine what LA would have given up for DeShaun Watson. 

  • I thought Goff was pretty good? Rams must be thinking their window is closing and Stafford is the guy to get them there. Crazy.

  • Yeah I’m not getting this one...Stafford admittedly a little better than Goff.  He’s 33- he’s played a lot football that “little better” could close fast in the other direction. 
     

    Throw in not 1....but 2 first round picks. 
     

    Strange one 

  • This is really Stafford and freedom from Goff's contract in exchange for 3 picks

  • Freedom from a contract???  22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Let's see if we can get a third thread on this.... 

    Merge them.

  • Wow Jared Goff is probably pissing himself right about now... Holy shizzles!!!... I wouldve kept Goff... Stafford has maybe what 2 years left?

  • Wow Jared Goff is probably pissing himself right about now... Holy shizzles!!!... I wouldve kept Goff... Stafford has maybe what 2 years left?

    @nickers said:

    Wow Jared Goff is probably pissing himself right about now... Holy shizzles!!!... I wouldve kept Goff... Stafford has maybe what 2 years left?

    Well...if he can hang around as long as  BR/Eli/Rivers...that would make  5-6 more years.   If he goes to 40, like Brees/Brady...it would give him 7+

  • According to Adam Schefter the LA Rams have traded Jared Goff, two future first round picks, and a future third round pick to the Detroit Lions for Matthew Stafford. 

    Holy cannoli. I can't imagine what LA would have given up for DeShaun Watson. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    According to Adam Schefter the LA Rams have traded Jared Goff, two future first round picks, and a future third round pick to the Detroit Lions for Matthew Stafford. 

    Holy cannoli. I can't imagine what LA would have given up for DeShaun Watson. 

    Yeah, now Watson may be stuck in Texas.

    Mike 

  • Yeah I’m not getting this one...Stafford admittedly a little better than Goff.  He’s 33- he’s played a lot football that “little better” could close fast in the other direction. 
     

    Throw in not 1....but 2 first round picks. 
     

    Strange one 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah I’m not getting this one...Stafford admittedly a little better than Goff.  He’s 33- he’s played a lot football that “little better” could close fast in the other direction. 
     

    Throw in not 1....but 2 first round picks. 
     

    Strange one 

    More than strange. Just plain ridiculous and getting close to Mike Ditka territory.

    https://sports.nbcsports.com/2019/04/15/revisiting-saints-trading-entire-draft-for-ricky-williams-and-the-deals-that-almost-happened/

  • Unbelievable.

  • John Dorsey is going to have fun in the next few drafts in Detroit. 

    Houston keeps telling the world (and DeShaun Watson) that they have no interest in trading their franchise QB.

  • Freedom from a contract???  22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Freedom from a contract???  22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams 

    Yes, his entire contract.  They pay 22M to get out of their obligation for 129M over the next four years. 

    As Pellisero says, rams eat the 22 and lions are on the hook for 107.  Maths!

    @dutch-oven said:

    John Dorsey is going to have fun in the next few drafts in Detroit

    Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Freedom from a contract???  22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams 

    Yes, his entire contract.  They pay 22M to get out of their obligation for 129M over the next four years. 

    As Pellisero says, rams eat the 22 and lions are on the hook for 107.  Maths!

    @dutch-oven said:

    John Dorsey is going to have fun in the next few drafts in Detroit

    Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

    @unsympathetic said:

    Yes, his entire contract.  They pay 22M to get out of their obligation for 129M over the next four years. 

    As Pellisaro says, rams eat the 22 and lions are on the hook for 107.  Maths!

    how’s this “maths”....
    Goff had a $34M cap number in 2021


    By trading Goff Rams carry $22M in dead cap for Goff and have a $20M cap number for Stafford.

    So the Rams are paying $8M more in cap space for the starting QB position in 2021.

    I see posters talking about 5,6,7 Type years left with Stafford- I think Snead gets into another bad marriage and extends Stafford soon- and I certainly don’t think Stafford takes less when that happens. Unless the Rams just traded their future and all their picks for a two year rental. Unlikely.  Just my 2 cents and my maths 

  • Basically paying for long term draft capital.  

    I'd fully expect the Lions to get back to fundamentals now.  Run the rock, play improved defense, try to limit Goff's exposure (in a sense).  Get back to creating a competitive type of culture within the organization.  Which sucks because the Lions have Kenny Golladay and it's fun seeing him get vertical.  

    NFCN is going to be in strange times the next couple years.  Rogers is on the back 9 and looking at the club-house, Kirk is Kirk, Chi-town has zero idea what their QB situation will be like.   But now the Lions have serious draft assets that nobody else in the division can match the next few years.  

  • very strange trade. Goff goes to Detroit, with the #12 offensive line, from the Rams with the PFF ratings #3 offensive line.

    Two freaking draft first round picks? Stranger still, the rams are in bad negative cap space terrority, and Detroit is barely above their limit.......

    very, very strange. BTW, PFF offensive line ratings - Cleveland Browns #1 !

    cap space:

    https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Freedom from a contract???  22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams 

    Yes, his entire contract.  They pay 22M to get out of their obligation for 129M over the next four years. 

    As Pellisero says, rams eat the 22 and lions are on the hook for 107.  Maths!

    @dutch-oven said:

    John Dorsey is going to have fun in the next few drafts in Detroit

    Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

    @unsympathetic said:

    Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

    Detroit got the terrible side of that trade? Two firsts, a third and Jared Goff is terrible? 

    Yeah, that's an interesting take.

  • Basically paying for long term draft capital.  

    I'd fully expect the Lions to get back to fundamentals now.  Run the rock, play improved defense, try to limit Goff's exposure (in a sense).  Get back to creating a competitive type of culture within the organization.  Which sucks because the Lions have Kenny Golladay and it's fun seeing him get vertical.  

    NFCN is going to be in strange times the next couple years.  Rogers is on the back 9 and looking at the club-house, Kirk is Kirk, Chi-town has zero idea what their QB situation will be like.   But now the Lions have serious draft assets that nobody else in the division can match the next few years.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Basically paying for long term draft capital.  

    I'd fully expect the Lions to get back to fundamentals now.  Run the rock, play improved defense, try to limit Goff's exposure (in a sense).  Get back to creating a competitive type of culture within the organization.  Which sucks because the Lions have Kenny Golladay and it's fun seeing him get vertical.  

    NFCN is going to be in strange times the next couple years.  Rogers is on the back 9 and looking at the club-house, Kirk is Kirk, Chi-town has zero idea what their QB situation will be like.   But now the Lions have serious draft assets that nobody else in the division can match the next few years.  

    And the Browns play the NFC North next season.... 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

    Detroit got the terrible side of that trade? Two firsts, a third and Jared Goff is terrible? 

    Yeah, that's an interesting take.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Detroit got the terrible side of that trade? Two firsts, a third and Jared Goff is terrible? 

    Yeah, that's an interesting take.

    Right on, IMO.   While I do believe Stafford is better than Goff...he is also older,  and he certainly is NOT  2 extra first round picks better.