JJ Watt to Cardinals
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Although the Browns do make the most sense in many ways I don't consider that there is any more knowledge about the situation than a week ago. "Browns are seriously being considered"? Of course they are. They are putting more than $10 million on the table. Any team that makes a serious offer will be seriously considered. That's different from being a favorite, however. And she most likely got her info from either the Browns, who have no idea what other teams are offering at this point, or from Watt's agent, who has an interest in having her spread the story. And wow has this story grown. Based purely on speculation.
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I think our biggest competition is Green Bay. They too, obviously are a contender. I don't know about their money situation, but I have not heard that it may be a big impediment...maybe someone knows. They don't have a Myles Garrett, but they are decent on the DL But then, you talk about family. His parents live in Pewaukee Wisc....as suburb of Milwaukee. And which is actually closer to Green Bay that Pittsburgh is to Cleveland.
They are a huge contender for his services.
I think their cap situation although not good it is not Steeler bad.
The biggest misconception in this process is he has to go to Pittsburgh right away. I think he ends of playing with the Brothers but why can’t he earn a little more dough and have a better contending situation on 2021.
It feels great to believe and have some proof we’ve overtaken Pitt.- doesn’t it?
They are a huge contender for his services.
I think their cap situation although not good it is not Steeler bad.
The biggest misconception in this process is he has to go to Pittsburgh right away. I think he ends of playing with the Brothers but why can’t he earn a little more dough and have a better contending situation on 2021.
It feels great to believe and have some proof we’ve overtaken Pitt.- doesn’t it?
The Packers are about 19 million over the cap, so you would think they would have to clear around 30 million just to get Watt on the team if the cap number doesn't go up a lot. Seems like a stretch.
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They are a huge contender for his services.
I think their cap situation although not good it is not Steeler bad.
The biggest misconception in this process is he has to go to Pittsburgh right away. I think he ends of playing with the Brothers but why can’t he earn a little more dough and have a better contending situation on 2021.
It feels great to believe and have some proof we’ve overtaken Pitt.- doesn’t it?
The Packers are about 19 million over the cap, so you would think they would have to clear around 30 million just to get Watt on the team if the cap number doesn't go up a lot. Seems like a stretch.
The Packers are about 19 million over the cap, so you would think they would have to clear around 30 million just to get Watt on the team if the cap number doesn't go up a lot. Seems like a stretch.
It is a stretch if he wants to be paid + be in the right spot.
Some have suggested he would take a discount for the Steelers maybe you throw GB into that mix too?
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Per Field Yates on ESPN, the Browns have a couple of things that most of the other teams in competition for Watt do not have:
1. A contending team
2. Ample money to pay him.
There is the perception that Pitt may have neither. Green Bay may not have the $$. As far as the Titans, Chiefs, Bills....other teams supposedly in contention....while they are contenders may or may not have the money. (some contend that the Browns don't have the money....I guess they can go argue with Field Yates). One other team that may crop up as a contender: The Rams. Watt and Aaron Donald on the same DL? New QB situation with Stafford? May be enticing to him.
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If we are expecting him to play 80% of snaps and at a Pro Bowl level. Unreasonable.
He’s not going to paid like that either.
Pitch count + a promising rookie + gustin = step in the right direction.
We could pay 12-15 per year for 4-5 years for a younger less accomplished version of JJ Watt. Not ideal given our future extensions we need
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Browns are now the odds on favorite in Vegas.
Either somebody has been tipped off or the books are reeling in suckers.
My football thoughts on JJ in CLE are another matter.
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The max 2021 cap is 11M under our salary liabilities for 2021 as of today, 2/18. Definition of liabilities is the sum of contracted player cap numbers and dead money for the 2021 season. [I manually copy-pasted that page into my own Excel file to verify]
We have signed neither rookies nor anyone who was on our roster last year and is now a FA let alone any "outside" FA.
Current liabilities: 196. Current max 2021 cap: 185. Don't believe this? Great! However, today's cap negotiations update supports a valuation of 185.
At present the way Cleveland gets under the 2021 cap is to.. use 11M of the one-year cap space. Every rookie and every FA also will count against that space.
Berry certainly may restructure a few people -- but he hasn't yet.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
The max 2021 cap is 11M under our salary liabilities for 2021 as of today, 2/18. Definition of liabilities is the sum of contracted player cap numbers and dead money for the 2021 season. [I manually copy-pasted that page into my own Excel file to verify]
We have signed neither rookies nor anyone who was on our roster last year and is now a FA let alone any "outside" FA.
Current liabilities: 196. Current max 2021 cap: 185. Don't believe this? Great! However, today's cap negotiations update supports a valuation of 185.
At present the way Cleveland gets under the 2021 cap is to.. use 11M of the one-year cap space. Every rookie and every FA also will count against that space.
Berry certainly may restructure a few people -- but he hasn't yet.
The max 2021 cap is 11M under our salary liabilities for 2021 as of today, 2/18. Definition of liabilities is the sum of contracted player cap numbers and dead money for the 2021 season. [I manually copy-pasted that page into my own Excel file to verify]
We have signed neither rookies nor anyone who was on our roster last year and is now a FA let alone any "outside" FA.
Current liabilities: 196. Current max 2021 cap: 185. Don't believe this? Great! However, today's cap negotiations update supports a valuation of 185.
At present the way Cleveland gets under the 2021 cap is to.. use 11M of the one-year cap space. Every rookie and every FA also will count against that space.
Berry certainly may restructure a few people -- but he hasn't yet.
Nothing motivates quite like necessity.
Of course, there are some outright cuts he could make as well that it doesn't look like anyone here has mentioned .... yet.
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is Watt just a name much like Clowney was (thank god we didnt sign that ass clown) one thing about watt compared to clowney is that I have never heard of watt taking plays let alone games off and watt is a leader among men But can u count on him to be on the field ? sign him to the league minimum and see what he brings
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The max 2021 cap is 11M under our salary liabilities for 2021 as of today, 2/18. Definition of liabilities is the sum of contracted player cap numbers and dead money for the 2021 season. [I manually copy-pasted that page into my own Excel file to verify]
We have signed neither rookies nor anyone who was on our roster last year and is now a FA let alone any "outside" FA.
Current liabilities: 196. Current max 2021 cap: 185. Don't believe this? Great! However, today's cap negotiations update supports a valuation of 185.
At present the way Cleveland gets under the 2021 cap is to.. use 11M of the one-year cap space. Every rookie and every FA also will count against that space.
Berry certainly may restructure a few people -- but he hasn't yet.
Nothing motivates quite like necessity.
Of course, there are some outright cuts he could make as well that it doesn't look like anyone here has mentioned .... yet.
Nothing motivates quite like necessity.
Of course, there are some outright cuts he could make as well that it doesn't look like anyone here has mentioned .... yet.
Njoku saves 6m
Richardson saves 10.5M
OBJ trade saves 15M
We don’t have many “bad” contracts.
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The max 2021 cap is 11M under our salary liabilities for 2021 as of today, 2/18. Definition of liabilities is the sum of contracted player cap numbers and dead money for the 2021 season. [I manually copy-pasted that page into my own Excel file to verify]
We have signed neither rookies nor anyone who was on our roster last year and is now a FA let alone any "outside" FA.
Current liabilities: 196. Current max 2021 cap: 185. Don't believe this? Great! However, today's cap negotiations update supports a valuation of 185.
At present the way Cleveland gets under the 2021 cap is to.. use 11M of the one-year cap space. Every rookie and every FA also will count against that space.
Berry certainly may restructure a few people -- but he hasn't yet.
At present the way Cleveland gets under the 2021 cap is to.. use 11M of the one-year cap space. Every rookie and every FA also will count against that space.
Berry certainly may restructure a few people -- but he hasn't yet.
What was Terrance Mitchell's overall grade at PFF last season ? Mitch was 28, can't recall the guy even missing a practice. Started all 16 games & had his best stat year in his 7 year career.. Of all our FA's, he's the keeper imo.. Played for 3.3M per/ yr., the last 3 seasons.. I see no market value.. but can we squeeze 5M per?
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Didn’t Watt lead the league in QB pressures last year? I may be totally wrong on that
I understand the injury history concerns but he can still play, especially with Myles the other side
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Now the rumors of Von Miller being possibly in play are interesting. I'd take either one.
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Njoku saves 6m
Richardson saves 10.5M
OBJ trade saves 15M
We don’t have many “bad” contracts.
Those top 2 sure are money savers.
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Njoku saves 6m
Richardson saves 10.5M
OBJ trade saves 15M
We don’t have many “bad” contracts.
Those top 2 sure are money savers.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
So is Richardson not worth having?
Seems like a bold move to get rid of Richardson considering they are allowing Ogunjobi to leave via free agency.
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