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  • nickersN nickers

    I was gonna say wait?.. Ain't Ally Sherman dead LOL?

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    I was gonna say wait?.. Ain't Ally Sherman dead LOL?

    Probably

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      No.

      This is "conventional wisdom" BS that actually means nothing.

      1) It's not Sherman that "develops" the player, it's the player and the position coach who put in the hours when nobody else is around.  

      Without googling, name one trait that Wills developed this past season only because he was "being groomed" by Bitonio.. and not because of Wills' individual work outside of practice. Show proof.

      2) Sherman has said he wants to play 3 more in SF and retire and so this entire thread is really much ado about nothing.

      3) His contract was 14M last season and he's only a 67.7 rating. You know, no better than Money Mitch.  Niners DB saw a comeback POY year from Verrett [he'd win that award in any other year than Smith's return from injury] and another great one from Kwaun Williams.. Sherman's no longer either elite or a plus D contributor.

      If he's only asking Mitch's salary level, great! But beware.. Mitch was paid 3.7 last year, and we may not be able to replicate that.

      Kevin Johnson was a decent-player-injury-recovery flier that didn't work.. one of the things with secondaries these days is that we have to get lucky with draft picks [TB with Dean drafted in rd3 becoming a top80 overall player] or injury [SF with Verrett] to be great. 

      Sherman's declining athleticism and his body injured all of 2020 is.. not the type of FA deal we should be leaping into.

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      @unsympathetic said:

      No.

      This is "conventional wisdom" BS that actually means nothing.

      1) It's not Sherman that "develops" the player, it's the player and the position coach who put in the hours when nobody else is around.  

      Without googling, name one trait that Wills developed this past season only because he was "being groomed" by Bitonio.. and not because of Wills' individual work outside of practice. Show proof.

      2) Sherman has said he wants to play 3 more in SF and retire and so this entire thread is really much ado about nothing.

      3) His contract was 14M last season and he's only a 67.7 rating. You know, no better than Money Mitch.  Niners DB saw a comeback POY year from Verrett [he'd win that award in any other year than Smith's return from injury] and another great one from Kwaun Williams.. Sherman's no longer either elite or a plus D contributor.

      If he's only asking Mitch's salary level, great! But beware.. Mitch was paid 3.7 last year, and we may not be able to replicate that.

      Kevin Johnson was a decent-player-injury-recovery flier that didn't work.. one of the things with secondaries these days is that we have to get lucky with draft picks [TB with Dean drafted in rd3 becoming a top80 overall player] or injury [SF with Verrett] to be great. 

      Sherman's declining athleticism and his body injured all of 2020 is.. not the type of FA deal we should be leaping into.

      Great post, this is exactly why he should be a "no" at all costs for the short-term. The browns need defensive help, and I absolutely like the idea of getting solid veteran guys. Sherman ain't it, though. On the edge and in the secondary we need to get faster and more agile. Richard isn't either of those. Now, if he doesn't get scooped up in the early FA market and we don't see development or recovery? Maybe.

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        So.... maybe...

        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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          @nickers said:

          I was gonna say wait?.. Ain't Ally Sherman dead LOL?

          Probably

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          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          Probably

          Oh god I remember that as a kid.....knew every word of it.

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            Put a knife in this, it's done

            The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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              Put a knife in this, it's done

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @unsympathetic said:

              Put a knife in this, it's done

              I thought this was about Rush Limbaugh for a second... 

              Yeah, a team that needs speed in the secondary going after a 33 year old guy who even in his prime was never a burner never seemed real likely to me. 

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                darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                I think Sherman will tank next season ....

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Probably

                  Oh god I remember that as a kid.....knew every word of it.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                  @mjp28 said:

                  Oh god I remember that as a kid.....knew every word of it.

                  I always  wondered if the Leonard Skinner mentioned in this song was  the same Leonard Skinner that became a Gym teacher in which Lynyrd Skynyrd  named the band after.....but, probably not,  though it would make a great tale;

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Skinner

                  If Westside Steve had done the same thing...named his band after our high school gym teacher,  instead of Easy Street,  they would have become known as:    Tony Prasher.    Or, if he had named them after the guy that really gave him shit in high school over his long hair, the band would have been named:   Ralph Beddow    or some variation thereof.  (Asst. Principal)

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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    no, it's a point.

                    1. Richard Sherman of Seattle Seahawks apologizes for ...

                      https://www.espn.com › nfl › story › _ › id › 18321587 › ...

                      Dec 20, 2016 · Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman apologized Tuesday after threatening to "ruin" a reporter's career, but stood by his Thursday sideline outburst directed at …

                    2. Richard Sherman and DeMarcus Cousins apologize for ...

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com › news › early-lead › wp › ...

                      Dec 21, 2016 · Richard Sherman and DeMarcus Cousins apologize for threatening media members. ... As Sherman walked

                      Richard Sherman confirms choice words in practice for ...

                      https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com › 2017 › 07 › 23 › ...

                      Jul 23, 2017 · Sometimes, just sometimes I enjoy seeing Sherman gets burned in a game by a wide receiver (as long as Hawks win of course). He’s such as a cancer in the locker room.

                      Trouble in the Emerald City? The Seahawks’ Richard Sherman ...

                      https://sports.yahoo.com › news › trouble-emerald-city...

                      Mar 31, 2017 · It’s been well documented that Richard Sherman has had sideline riffs with the offensive coordinator of the Seattle ... twisted up and defined as a ‘trouble’ or ‘cancer’ in the

                      Comments on: Richard Sherman: I don’t really have a ...

                      https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com › 2018 › 11 › 29 › ...

                      Nov 29, 2018 · Sherman's the biggest crybaby alive. He didn't get cut because he was injured. He got cut because he's a locker room cancer, a huge distraction, and openly bashed the team, coaching, and ...

                    It seems odd that you of all people would consider someone that got into tiffs with reporters to have a character issue. 

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    It seems odd that you of all people would consider someone that got into tiffs with reporters to have a character issue. 

                    it would be funny to watch him go after grossi hell it might make him retire

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                      Nope...let him go somewhere else.

                      that whole fake handshake incident.  I guess I could get over that if he still played at a high level. 

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                        No thanks 

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