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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I’m with you assuming we know the Cowboys find another draftee that will have a 42-27 record and win rookie of the year.

    Most accomplished during first season.... on a rookie deal with a great OL and defense.  

    Now they are shite.....and now  he wants to be paid  20% of his team's salary cap.

    Notes, just for reference:  On a 53 man roster with a  185 million salary cap,  the average salary...i.e if each and every player got 1/53 of the team's salary cap, that would be 3.5 million per player.   But if one guy gets  37 million, that means that  means the other  52 players must share 148 million....or  2.84 million.    Zeke Elliot has a 13.7 million cap hit.   So those 2 players alone could take up  50.7 million of the 185 mill cap hit.  Amari Cooper's cap hit is 22 million.  So, their "triplets"   would take up  72.7  million of their cap number...or  39.3%  of their total salary.  That leaves  112.3 million to be divided between  50 players...or  an average of 2.246 mill per player.  

    I don't know.....can a team pay  3 of its players nearly 40% of their entire budget....and still be a good team?

    Pay him that and see what his team's record would be in the future.   He would be lucky to achieve the reverse of that record. 

    I say it would doom them to a future of  3-6 wins per season for the foreseeable future. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Most accomplished during first season.... on a rookie deal with a great OL and defense.  

    Now they are shite.....and now  he wants to be paid  20% of his team's salary cap.

    Notes, just for reference:  On a 53 man roster with a  185 million salary cap,  the average salary...i.e if each and every player got 1/53 of the team's salary cap, that would be 3.5 million per player.   But if one guy gets  37 million, that means that  means the other  52 players must share 148 million....or  2.84 million.    Zeke Elliot has a 13.7 million cap hit.   So those 2 players alone could take up  50.7 million of the 185 mill cap hit.  Amari Cooper's cap hit is 22 million.  So, their "triplets"   would take up  72.7  million of their cap number...or  39.3%  of their total salary.  That leaves  112.3 million to be divided between  50 players...or  an average of 2.246 mill per player.  

    I don't know.....can a team pay  3 of its players nearly 40% of their entire budget....and still be a good team?

    Pay him that and see what his team's record would be in the future.   He would be lucky to achieve the reverse of that record. 

    I say it would doom them to a future of  3-6 wins per season for the foreseeable future. 

    Welcome To this era of football.  We are Browns fans we haven’t been here before...I get it. But I think we are here.

    Browns will be Baker and Myles and hopefully some wise draft selections under rookie contracts and vets taking discounts. 
     

    Lots of cap talk on the forum these days and too many us think we are re-signing guys like Bitonio, Landry, etc- see my vets taking discounts comment if they want to stay.  The beauty of our situation - WE don’t have bad contracts.  Myles is bad if he flops.  You can make a slight case for Hooper.  That’s all!!! The FO right now is measuring Baker figuring out that number is the first domino - the Cowboys didn’t do that but they will fit Dak’s contract in- my guess- my prediction.
     

    In regard to Dak, Jerry screwed it up...but what is the alternative?  Your suggestions while an option don’t provide the right answer to the question What Would Jerry Do?
     

    And what is exactly wrong with Dak?  You think this is a middle of the road QB...I don’t.  

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  • In regard to Dak, Jerry screwed it up...but what is the alternative?  Your suggestions while an option don’t provide the right answer to the question What Would Jerry Do?

    I would never propose to figure what Jerry Jones will do...

    I will only say: "  I think it can reliably be said that  Jerry will fuck things up.   And I am good with that." 

  • Could there be a possible switch of QBs between Dallas and  Seattle?   Rumblings are that Wilson may want out of Seattle, and would accept a trade to Dallas.   Would Jerry Jones drop his interest in  Dak like a rock if he thinks he could get Wilson?

    https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/florio-seahawks-qb-russell-wilson-has-eye-on-dallas-cowboys

  • Could Rudolph the Racist Reindeer be out in Pittsburgh?

    https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-benz-does-ben-roethlisberger-190100583.html

  • Old Buddy  Josh McCown cut.    Could turn to coaching:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/texans-cut-josh-mccown-may-213937023.html

  • 1. Colts.....Carson Wentz  to Colts in trade  with Eagles.

    2. Saints

    3. Texans

    4. Lions.....Jared Goff....to Lions in trade with Rams

    5. Cowboys

    6. Bears

    7. Jaguars.....belief is that  Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 

    8. Patriots

    9. Broncos

    10.  Washington

    11. Eagles.....Jalen Hurts???

    12. Panthers

    13. Dolphins

    14. Falcons

    15. 49ers

    16. Steelers.....Ben Roethlisberger

    17.  Packers

    18. Rams?  Matt Stafford to Rams in trade for Goff.

    Over half the teams in the league. 

    BR signing a reduced deal  ensures that he will at least start the season as the Starting QB for the Squeelers. 

  • Dak gets paid because Jerry realizes he has no choice.

    4yr. 160M. 126M guaranteed

  • Dak gets paid because Jerry realizes he has no choice.

    4yr. 160M. 126M guaranteed

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Dak gets paid because Jerry realizes he has no choice.

    4yr. 160M. 126M guaranteed

    Hallelujah !  For 2 years now, I've been turning the station on Dak's 'old & stale' new contract news..I never thought this would happen in Big D.. Good for Dak..Out played his draft slot to some serious bucks ?

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Dak gets paid because Jerry realizes he has no choice.

    4yr. 160M. 126M guaranteed

    Hallelujah !  For 2 years now, I've been turning the station on Dak's 'old & stale' new contract news..I never thought this would happen in Big D.. Good for Dak..Out played his draft slot to some serious bucks ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Hallelujah !  For 2 years now, I've been turning the station on Dak's 'old & stale' new contract news..I never thought this would happen in Big D.. Good for Dak..Out played his draft slot to some serious bucks ?

    forgot that point...yes it is nice to not hear it...but it will be replaced by what will the Cowboys do with Zeke?  He’s a goner next offseason I believe. 

    The Dak dilemma you had to answer two questions

    Is he as average as fans make him out to be?

    When you dig into things and see everything out there Did Jerry really have a choice? 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Dak gets paid because Jerry realizes he has no choice.

    4yr. 160M. 126M guaranteed

    Hallelujah !  For 2 years now, I've been turning the station on Dak's 'old & stale' new contract news..I never thought this would happen in Big D.. Good for Dak..Out played his draft slot to some serious bucks ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Hallelujah !  For 2 years now, I've been turning the station on Dak's 'old & stale' new contract news..I never thought this would happen in Big D.. Good for Dak..Out played his draft slot to some serious bucks ?

    Tour and I will take a bow for his "discovery" way back in Miss. St. days. ?

  • With Jerrah front loading Dak's contract to the point of being ridiculous...

    ... including, but not limited to, a $66mm signing bonus...

    ... yet it somehow results in a 2021 cap figure of only $22mm...

    ... I have officially given up trying to understand "the cap."

  • With Jerrah front loading Dak's contract to the point of being ridiculous...

    ... including, but not limited to, a $66mm signing bonus...

    ... yet it somehow results in a 2021 cap figure of only $22mm...

    ... I have officially given up trying to understand "the cap."

    @tour2ma said:

    With Jerrah front loading Dak's contract to the point of being ridiculous...

    ... including, but not limited to, a $66mm signing bonus...

    ... yet it somehow results in a 2021 cap figure of only $22mm...

    ... I have officially given up trying to understand "the cap."

    Ah, now I am in good company. I ignore it all and just look for who we actually sign in the off season and who we draft. This year I think we have a real chance to do this up right and get beyond a 1st round win.

  • 1. Colts.....Carson Wentz  to Colts in trade  with Eagles.

    2. Saints

    3. Texans

    4. Lions.....Jared Goff....to Lions in trade with Rams

    5. Cowboys.....Dak Prescott signs  4 year extension

    6. Bears

    7. Jaguars.....belief is that  Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 

    8. Patriots.....Cam Newton signs new deal  see the post below.  (expect Pats to draft a QB?)

    9. Broncos

    10.  Washington

    11. Eagles.....Jalen Hurts???

    12. Panthers

    13. Dolphins

    14. Falcons

    15. 49ers

    16. Steelers.....Ben Roethlisberger

    17.  Packers

    18. Rams?  Matt Stafford to Rams in trade for Goff.

    19.  Seahawks?

    Still a dozen teams with  issues...though 2-3 seem settle.  (Packers/Falcons

  • Cam Newton signs a one year deal to stay in New England  https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-cam-newton-re-signing-qb-to-one-year-deal  Good luck with that Josh McDaniel's 🥷 

  • Cam Newton signs a one year deal to stay in New England  https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-cam-newton-re-signing-qb-to-one-year-deal  Good luck with that Josh McDaniel's 🥷 

    @gumby73 said:

    Cam Newton signs a one year deal to stay in New England  https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-cam-newton-re-signing-qb-to-one-year-deal  Good luck with that Josh McDaniel's 🥷 

    Guaranteed base is low. Word is the Pats are still shopping.

    I have to think they are drafting one on Day One... and possibly moving up to do so.

  • 1. Colts.....Carson Wentz  to Colts in trade  with Eagles.

    2. Saints

    3. Texans

    4. Lions.....Jared Goff....to Lions in trade with Rams

    5. Cowboys.....Dak Prescott signs  4 year extension

    6. Bears

    7. Jaguars.....belief is that  Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 

    8. Patriots.....Cam Newton signs new deal  see the post below.  (expect Pats to draft a QB?)

    9. Broncos

    10.  Washington

    11. Eagles.....Jalen Hurts???

    12. Panthers

    13. Dolphins

    14. Falcons

    15. 49ers

    16. Steelers.....Ben Roethlisberger

    17.  Packers

    18. Rams?  Matt Stafford to Rams in trade for Goff.

    19.  Seahawks?

    Still a dozen teams with  issues...though 2-3 seem settle.  (Packers/Falcons

    @the-gipper said:

    1. Colts.....Carson Wentz  to Colts in trade  with Eagles.

    2. Saints.....Jameis Winston??

    3. Texans

    4. Lions.....Jared Goff....to Lions in trade with Rams

    5. Cowboys.....Dak Prescott signs  4 year extension

    6. Bears.....Andy Dalton? 

    7. Jaguars.....belief is that  Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 

    8. Patriots.....Cam Newton signs new deal  see the post below.  (expect Pats to draft a QB?)

    9. Broncos

    10.  Washington.....Ryan Fitzpatrick?

    11. Eagles.....Jalen Hurts???

    12. Panthers

    13. Dolphins

    14. Falcons

    15. 49ers

    16. Steelers.....Ben Roethlisberger

    17.  Packers....Aaron Rodgers ....going nowhere, but that does not mean he is happy

    18. Rams?  Matt Stafford to Rams in trade for Goff.

    19.  Seahawks?

    Still a dozen teams with  issues...though 2-3 seem settle.  (Packers/Falcons

    Fitzpatrick signs with Washington....to presumably be some kind of bridge QB for now.

    Winston signs  a 1 year prove it deal with Saints. 

    Rodgers losing like the best OC in football won't make him happy. 

    Dalton signs with Bears.  He may be their starter.  Pencil him in for now. 

  • Saints had already signed Hill as well as Winston.. The gluten-free pu-pu platter?

  • Mitch Trubiskey signs one year deal to be backup in Buffalo:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/brandon-beane-doesn-t-expect-194247070.html