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  • The beauty is that now that the major portion of the FA signing are done, we don't have any glaring holes in the roster.  That means we won't be at least leaning towards drafting for major needs, so that open things up.

    It's a great year with the wr class.  I could see us drafting a WR with our 1st rounder.  It's wide open.  We might have a player we love and trade up to get him.  We might have our eyes on other guys we can get a bit later, so I could see us trading out of round 1 for a 2nd rounder and say a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

    No matter what we do, we are in a good spot.

  • The beauty is that now that the major portion of the FA signing are done, we don't have any glaring holes in the roster.  That means we won't be at least leaning towards drafting for major needs, so that open things up.

    It's a great year with the wr class.  I could see us drafting a WR with our 1st rounder.  It's wide open.  We might have a player we love and trade up to get him.  We might have our eyes on other guys we can get a bit later, so I could see us trading out of round 1 for a 2nd rounder and say a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

    No matter what we do, we are in a good spot.

    @ballpeen said:

    The beauty is that now that the major portion of the FA signing are done, we don't have any glaring holes in the roster.  That means we won't be at least leaning towards drafting for major needs, so that open things up.

    It's a great year with the wr class.  I could see us drafting a WR with our 1st rounder.  It's wide open.  We might have a player we love and trade up to get him.  We might have our eyes on other guys we can get a bit later, so I could see us trading out of round 1 for a 2nd rounder and say a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

    No matter what we do, we are in a good spot.

    Interesting - we draft so late in the first round, I hadn't thought about trading down. A high draft choice in the second round could easily net the Browns one of their top players they are looking at for #26. What is fun .... we have a A++ coaching staff and FO that we can believe in to make very, very smart moves and decisions.

  • The beauty is that now that the major portion of the FA signing are done, we don't have any glaring holes in the roster.  That means we won't be at least leaning towards drafting for major needs, so that open things up.

    It's a great year with the wr class.  I could see us drafting a WR with our 1st rounder.  It's wide open.  We might have a player we love and trade up to get him.  We might have our eyes on other guys we can get a bit later, so I could see us trading out of round 1 for a 2nd rounder and say a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

    No matter what we do, we are in a good spot.

    @ballpeen said:

    The beauty is that now that the major portion of the FA signing are done, we don't have any glaring holes in the roster.  That means we won't be at least leaning towards drafting for major needs, so that open things up.

    It's a great year with the wr class.  I could see us drafting a WR with our 1st rounder.  It's wide open.  We might have a player we love and trade up to get him.  We might have our eyes on other guys we can get a bit later, so I could see us trading out of round 1 for a 2nd rounder and say a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

    No matter what we do, we are in a good spot.

    I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department. 

    Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year. 

  • @ballpeen said:

    The beauty is that now that the major portion of the FA signing are done, we don't have any glaring holes in the roster.  That means we won't be at least leaning towards drafting for major needs, so that open things up.

    It's a great year with the wr class.  I could see us drafting a WR with our 1st rounder.  It's wide open.  We might have a player we love and trade up to get him.  We might have our eyes on other guys we can get a bit later, so I could see us trading out of round 1 for a 2nd rounder and say a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

    No matter what we do, we are in a good spot.

    I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department. 

    Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department. 

    Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year. 

    Maybe, maybe not.  I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole.  How that pans out, only time will tell.  I do agree that we may not be set at that position.  I think we may still make a play for Clowney.  I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest.  We may also have a draft target in mind.  I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round.  We have 11 draft picks this year.  No way we draft 11 players.  Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department. 

    Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year. 

    Maybe, maybe not.  I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole.  How that pans out, only time will tell.  I do agree that we may not be set at that position.  I think we may still make a play for Clowney.  I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest.  We may also have a draft target in mind.  I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round.  We have 11 draft picks this year.  No way we draft 11 players.  Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.

    @ballpeen said:

    Maybe, maybe not.  I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole.  How that pans out, only time will tell.  I do agree that we may not be set at that position.  I think we may still make a play for Clowney.  I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest.  We may also have a draft target in mind.  I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round.  We have 11 draft picks this year.  No way we draft 11 players.  Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.

    I was thinking the same thing this morning - I would not be surprised if the Browns traded up.

    The secondary is pretty much set with the addition of the two Rams. I don't see the Browns front office ever investing big draft capital in the LB position. IMO, the big, glaring hole is someone to really complement Myles on the DLine. Not sure that guy is going to fall to them at #26.

  • Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.

    A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?

    He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be

    special - really intriguing.

  • it very well could happen.  I guess the difference between you and i is that I am not as convinced the target is a lock(or near) to be a DE type.  We both agree that there is a good chance at least one of Landy/OBJ will be gone.  It wouldn't shock me if we moved up to tap in to some of the cream of the WR group.

    If Berry is pretty sure that keeping both Landry and OBJ is prohibitive from a cost standpoint, now would be the time to plan for that rather than wait for next year.  That is why I think there is a pretty good chance that a receiver is in the plans.

  • Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.

    A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?

    He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be

    special - really intriguing.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.

    A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?

    He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be

    special - really intriguing.

    He very well could be the guy.  I was going to mention him in one of the above posts, but couldn't remember how to spell his name and didn't feel like looking it up.?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department. 

    Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year. 

    Maybe, maybe not.  I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole.  How that pans out, only time will tell.  I do agree that we may not be set at that position.  I think we may still make a play for Clowney.  I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest.  We may also have a draft target in mind.  I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round.  We have 11 draft picks this year.  No way we draft 11 players.  Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.

    @ballpeen said:

    Maybe, maybe not.  I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole.  How that pans out, only time will tell.  I do agree that we may not be set at that position.  I think we may still make a play for Clowney.  I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest.  We may also have a draft target in mind.  I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round.  We have 11 draft picks this year.  No way we draft 11 players.  Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.

    11 picks?  I thought it was only  9.  But be it 9 or 11  I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe  6  hopefully really good players.  I would rather step up further in round one,  or get another first or second round pick  than to have  a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder.  You can probably get  UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder. 

  • Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.

    A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?

    He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be

    special - really intriguing.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.

    A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?

    He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be

    special - really intriguing.

    Or, do you mean he is the guy  you really want the Browns to  covet?   Nevertheless, if you think he could be the answer, and if the Browns agree, a trade up for him may be the way to go. 

  • 2021 Projected Draft Pool Cap

    Estimated cap dollars necessary to sign upcoming draft picks (not included in the cap figure yet)

    PLAYER (9)
    POS.
    BASE SALARY
    SIGNING BONUS
    ROSTER BONUS
    OPTION BONUS
    WORKOUT BONUS
    RESTRUC. BONUS
    MISC.
    DEAD CAP
    CAP HIT (TOTAL)
    CAP HIT (TOP 51)
    Projected Draft Pool:                   $8,746,362 $5,446,362
    Round 1, Pick #26   $660,000 $1,555,608 - - - - - - $2,215,608 $2,215,608
    Round 2, Pick #59   $660,000 $358,161 - - - - - - $1,018,161 $1,018,161
    Round 3, Pick #89   $660,000 $211,796 - - - - - - $871,796 $871,796
    Round 3, Pick #91   $660,000 $210,347 - - - - - - $870,347 $870,347
    Round 4, Pick #110   $660,000 $185,875 - - - - - - $845,875 $185,875
    Round 4, Pick #132   $660,000 $158,836 - - - - - - $818,836 $158,836
    Round 5, Pick #169   $660,000 $69,569 - - - - - - $729,569 $69,569
    Round 6, Pick #211   $660,000 $37,798 - - - - - - $697,798 $37,798
    Round 7, Pick #257   $660,000 $18,372 - - - - - - $678,372 $18,372

    The Saints (pick #28) are the only team that sits behind us that may trade up for a QB..Rumor is , they'd have to jump the Steelers & get the Jets 2nd 1st round pick at pick #23...

    Teams that may want a 5th year QB option behind us that may jump from early 2nd round?

    34.Jets, but pick 2nd

    35. Atlanta--just extended Matt Ryan

    36.Miami

    37.Philly

    39.Panthers

  • @ballpeen said:

    Maybe, maybe not.  I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole.  How that pans out, only time will tell.  I do agree that we may not be set at that position.  I think we may still make a play for Clowney.  I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest.  We may also have a draft target in mind.  I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round.  We have 11 draft picks this year.  No way we draft 11 players.  Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.

    11 picks?  I thought it was only  9.  But be it 9 or 11  I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe  6  hopefully really good players.  I would rather step up further in round one,  or get another first or second round pick  than to have  a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder.  You can probably get  UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder. 

    @the-gipper said:

    11 picks?  I thought it was only  9.  But be it 9 or 11  I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe  6  hopefully really good players.  I would rather step up further in round one,  or get another first or second round pick  than to have  a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder.  You can probably get  UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder. 

    No....my bad...9 picks.  I suppose I was thinking 9 picks, and then added 2.  Sorry for the confusion.

  • I'm not sure where to put this, but I saw the PFF draft simulator and threw my hat in the ring on it for the Browns...

    Rd 1, #26 LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame

    Rd 2, #58 DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa

    Rd 3, #89 Edge Joe Tryon, Washington

    Rd 3, #91 Edge Dayo Odoyingho, Vanderbilt

    Rd 4, #111 WR Nico Collins, TTUN

    Rd 4, #131 Edge Patrick Jones II, Pittsburgh

    Rd 5, #169 CB Israel Mukuamu, South Carolina

    Rd 6, #208 OT Cole VanLanen, Wisconsin

    Rd 7, #255 WR Osirus Mitchell, Mississippi State 

  • I'd have to agree with this..  https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-2021-offseason-needs-free-agency-nfl-draft/

    Such a long way to go, and some good talent that may go get cut, falling into a good dumpster diving season...

    I'm willing to sit in my recliner & watch good battles like 

    RDT 99 Billings, Andrew U/Cin 00 JACKSON, MALIK CC/Phi

     to park next to S.Richardson...

    If I'm? Joe Jackson/Gustin/Weaver/Greedy/MJ Stewart/B.Allen/AJ Green/Mack Wilson/Elijah Lee/Redwine or Moffatt/ Forbes to Hubbard's ? I'd be working my tail off, up to Camp day #1..

  • Put my name down for Nico Collins.  Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone. 

    Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment.  If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr?      Kwity gets my nod.

    That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.

  • Man, Kwity is that "great tools but mediocre production" guy that always scares me.

  • Put my name down for Nico Collins.  Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone. 

    Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment.  If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr?      Kwity gets my nod.

    That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Put my name down for Nico Collins.  Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone. 

    Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment.  If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr?      Kwity gets my nod.

    That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.

    Nico was severely underutilized at Michigan. It was criminal. If we want a big body, high point jump ball guy he's great at that. I think I saw at one point in 2019 he had the highest percentage of DPIs drawn per target. I'm curious to see his pro day numbers. 

    I'm also bummes we don't get to see Kwity destroy the combine. Would have been a big boost to his stock. Maybe that's ultimately a better outcome for the browns tho.

    Though this exists

  • Put my name down for Nico Collins.  Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone. 

    Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment.  If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr?      Kwity gets my nod.

    That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Put my name down for Nico Collins.  Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone. 

    Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment.  If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr?      Kwity gets my nod.

    That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.

    Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.

        Meaning, is an edge rusher just an edge rusher in the Browns defense? or, the ability to drop back and cover important, which is why I liked Ojulari better as the pick? Kwity is that good, but depending, I'd go Ojulari. Just wondering....

  • @the-gipper said:

    11 picks?  I thought it was only  9.  But be it 9 or 11  I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe  6  hopefully really good players.  I would rather step up further in round one,  or get another first or second round pick  than to have  a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder.  You can probably get  UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder. 

    No....my bad...9 picks.  I suppose I was thinking 9 picks, and then added 2.  Sorry for the confusion.

    @ballpeen said:

    No....my bad...9 picks.  I suppose I was thinking 9 picks, and then added 2.  Sorry for the confusion.

    No worries mate.  As I said even 9 picks is a high amount.   Trading up could hopefully give us  quality over quantity. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Put my name down for Nico Collins.  Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone. 

    Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment.  If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr?      Kwity gets my nod.

    That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.

    Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.

        Meaning, is an edge rusher just an edge rusher in the Browns defense? or, the ability to drop back and cover important, which is why I liked Ojulari better as the pick? Kwity is that good, but depending, I'd go Ojulari. Just wondering....

    @calfoxwc said:

    Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.

    Is a guy with stiff hips naturally flaccid between the hips?