Major projected draft prospects for Browns first three rounds
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I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department.
Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year.
Maybe, maybe not. I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole. How that pans out, only time will tell. I do agree that we may not be set at that position. I think we may still make a play for Clowney. I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest. We may also have a draft target in mind. I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round. We have 11 draft picks this year. No way we draft 11 players. Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.
Maybe, maybe not. I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole. How that pans out, only time will tell. I do agree that we may not be set at that position. I think we may still make a play for Clowney. I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest. We may also have a draft target in mind. I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round. We have 11 draft picks this year. No way we draft 11 players. Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.
I was thinking the same thing this morning - I would not be surprised if the Browns traded up.
The secondary is pretty much set with the addition of the two Rams. I don't see the Browns front office ever investing big draft capital in the LB position. IMO, the big, glaring hole is someone to really complement Myles on the DLine. Not sure that guy is going to fall to them at #26.
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Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.
A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?
He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be
special - really intriguing.
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it very well could happen. I guess the difference between you and i is that I am not as convinced the target is a lock(or near) to be a DE type. We both agree that there is a good chance at least one of Landy/OBJ will be gone. It wouldn't shock me if we moved up to tap in to some of the cream of the WR group.
If Berry is pretty sure that keeping both Landry and OBJ is prohibitive from a cost standpoint, now would be the time to plan for that rather than wait for next year. That is why I think there is a pretty good chance that a receiver is in the plans.
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Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.
A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?
He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be
special - really intriguing.
Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.
A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?
He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be
special - really intriguing.
He very well could be the guy. I was going to mention him in one of the above posts, but couldn't remember how to spell his name and didn't feel like looking it up.?
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I think the Browns have ONE glaring weakness - they have no one opposite Myles to worry a team in the pass rush department.
Getting pressure on the opposing QB is priority #1 in 2021 NFL, and the Browns today are in worse shape regarding that than they were at this time last year.
Maybe, maybe not. I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole. How that pans out, only time will tell. I do agree that we may not be set at that position. I think we may still make a play for Clowney. I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest. We may also have a draft target in mind. I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round. We have 11 draft picks this year. No way we draft 11 players. Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.
Maybe, maybe not. I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole. How that pans out, only time will tell. I do agree that we may not be set at that position. I think we may still make a play for Clowney. I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest. We may also have a draft target in mind. I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round. We have 11 draft picks this year. No way we draft 11 players. Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.
11 picks? I thought it was only 9. But be it 9 or 11 I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe 6 hopefully really good players. I would rather step up further in round one, or get another first or second round pick than to have a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder. You can probably get UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder.
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Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.
A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?
He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be
special - really intriguing.
Like I think I mentioned elsewhere, Ojulari is a player the Browns may very well covet, except he could be gone by the 20th pick.
A move up to 20 would be a ...third and a fifth?
He's been linked strongly to the niners - who pick #12. Of all the drafts in recent years, this draft seems to be
special - really intriguing.
Or, do you mean he is the guy you really want the Browns to covet? Nevertheless, if you think he could be the answer, and if the Browns agree, a trade up for him may be the way to go.
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2021 Projected Draft Pool Cap
Estimated cap dollars necessary to sign upcoming draft picks (not included in the cap figure yet)
PLAYER (9)POS.BASE SALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSOPTION BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUC. BONUSMISC.DEAD CAPCAP HIT (TOTAL)CAP HIT (TOP 51)Projected Draft Pool: $8,746,362 $5,446,362 Round 1, Pick #26 $660,000 $1,555,608 - - - - - - $2,215,608 $2,215,608 Round 2, Pick #59 $660,000 $358,161 - - - - - - $1,018,161 $1,018,161 Round 3, Pick #89 $660,000 $211,796 - - - - - - $871,796 $871,796 Round 3, Pick #91 $660,000 $210,347 - - - - - - $870,347 $870,347 Round 4, Pick #110 $660,000 $185,875 - - - - - - $845,875 $185,875 Round 4, Pick #132 $660,000 $158,836 - - - - - - $818,836 $158,836 Round 5, Pick #169 $660,000 $69,569 - - - - - - $729,569 $69,569 Round 6, Pick #211 $660,000 $37,798 - - - - - - $697,798 $37,798 Round 7, Pick #257 $660,000 $18,372 - - - - - - $678,372 $18,372 The Saints (pick #28) are the only team that sits behind us that may trade up for a QB..Rumor is , they'd have to jump the Steelers & get the Jets 2nd 1st round pick at pick #23...
Teams that may want a 5th year QB option behind us that may jump from early 2nd round?
34.Jets, but pick 2nd
35. Atlanta--just extended Matt Ryan
36.Miami
37.Philly
39.Panthers
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Maybe, maybe not. I am sure we signed Takk to be a big part of that hole. How that pans out, only time will tell. I do agree that we may not be set at that position. I think we may still make a play for Clowney. I know some don't like him for one reason or another, but he is still a very good football player and we have shown prior interest. We may also have a draft target in mind. I know I have given reasons why a trade down might make sense, but a trade up could also be in the works for the first round. We have 11 draft picks this year. No way we draft 11 players. Some of those picks are going to be traded to either move up or push extra picks in to next year, so some combination of both.
11 picks? I thought it was only 9. But be it 9 or 11 I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe 6 hopefully really good players. I would rather step up further in round one, or get another first or second round pick than to have a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder. You can probably get UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder.
11 picks? I thought it was only 9. But be it 9 or 11 I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe 6 hopefully really good players. I would rather step up further in round one, or get another first or second round pick than to have a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder. You can probably get UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder.
No....my bad...9 picks. I suppose I was thinking 9 picks, and then added 2. Sorry for the confusion.
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I'm not sure where to put this, but I saw the PFF draft simulator and threw my hat in the ring on it for the Browns...
Rd 1, #26 LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame
Rd 2, #58 DT Daviyon Nixon, Iowa
Rd 3, #89 Edge Joe Tryon, Washington
Rd 3, #91 Edge Dayo Odoyingho, Vanderbilt
Rd 4, #111 WR Nico Collins, TTUN
Rd 4, #131 Edge Patrick Jones II, Pittsburgh
Rd 5, #169 CB Israel Mukuamu, South Carolina
Rd 6, #208 OT Cole VanLanen, Wisconsin
Rd 7, #255 WR Osirus Mitchell, Mississippi State
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I'd have to agree with this.. https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-2021-offseason-needs-free-agency-nfl-draft/
Such a long way to go, and some good talent that may go get cut, falling into a good dumpster diving season...
I'm willing to sit in my recliner & watch good battles like
RDT 99 Billings, Andrew U/Cin 00 JACKSON, MALIK CC/Phi to park next to S.Richardson...
If I'm? Joe Jackson/Gustin/Weaver/Greedy/MJ Stewart/B.Allen/AJ Green/Mack Wilson/Elijah Lee/Redwine or Moffatt/ Forbes to Hubbard's ? I'd be working my tail off, up to Camp day #1..
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Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
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Man, Kwity is that "great tools but mediocre production" guy that always scares me.
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Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
Nico was severely underutilized at Michigan. It was criminal. If we want a big body, high point jump ball guy he's great at that. I think I saw at one point in 2019 he had the highest percentage of DPIs drawn per target. I'm curious to see his pro day numbers.
I'm also bummes we don't get to see Kwity destroy the combine. Would have been a big boost to his stock. Maybe that's ultimately a better outcome for the browns tho.
Though this exists
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Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.
Meaning, is an edge rusher just an edge rusher in the Browns defense? or, the ability to drop back and cover important, which is why I liked Ojulari better as the pick? Kwity is that good, but depending, I'd go Ojulari. Just wondering....
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11 picks? I thought it was only 9. But be it 9 or 11 I do think that those picks can be manipulated with trade ups to get us maybe 6 hopefully really good players. I would rather step up further in round one, or get another first or second round pick than to have a 6th or 7th rounder be just camp fodder. You can probably get UDFAs that will give you as good as a 6th or 7th rounder.
No....my bad...9 picks. I suppose I was thinking 9 picks, and then added 2. Sorry for the confusion.
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Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.
Meaning, is an edge rusher just an edge rusher in the Browns defense? or, the ability to drop back and cover important, which is why I liked Ojulari better as the pick? Kwity is that good, but depending, I'd go Ojulari. Just wondering....
Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.
Is a guy with stiff hips naturally flaccid between the hips?
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Put my name down for Nico Collins. Saw him do work against the Buckeyes 2 years in a row in the redzone.
Also, and I'm sure @mld-woody will appreciate this first glance comment. If you're asking me who would I pull the trigger on as of 1:00PM EST today to line up across from Myles and my options are - Kwity, Ojulari, Patrick Jones & Basham Jr? Kwity gets my nod.
That decision still subject to MAJOR change over the next 30 days.
Kwitty would make sense, except he is said to have stiff hips, not flexible enough, needs coached up on pass rush moves for the pros.... etc, and isn't one to drop back into coverage and mess with qb's minds, as much as I've read.
Meaning, is an edge rusher just an edge rusher in the Browns defense? or, the ability to drop back and cover important, which is why I liked Ojulari better as the pick? Kwity is that good, but depending, I'd go Ojulari. Just wondering....
Meaning, is an edge rusher just an edge rusher in the Browns defense? or, the ability to drop back and cover important, which is why I liked Ojulari better as the pick? Kwity is that good, but depending, I'd go Ojulari. Just wondering....
On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being most important a 4-3 DE "Edge" ability to drop is a "1".
We saw MG drop maybe twice all year. It's as rare as zone-blitzes are rare in a given D-Coord's play calls.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I feel like I'm watching Trent Cole. But I can't tell for the better or the worse... yet.
good comparison..
quick 1st step..speed to power..stacks & shreds with ripping powerful hands.good punch when called for. but you won't see much of any corner bends..
Although Kwity does not quite have his length... I keep seeing the young Carlos Dunlap.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I feel like I'm watching Trent Cole. But I can't tell for the better or the worse... yet.
good comparison..
quick 1st step..speed to power..stacks & shreds with ripping powerful hands.good punch when called for. but you won't see much of any corner bends..
Although Kwity does not quite have his length... I keep seeing the young Carlos Dunlap.
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I feel like I'm watching Trent Cole. But I can't tell for the better or the worse... yet.
good comparison..
quick 1st step..speed to power..stacks & shreds with ripping powerful hands.good punch when called for. but you won't see much of any corner bends..
Although Kwity does not quite have his length... I keep seeing the young Carlos Dunlap.
Although Kwity does not quite have his length... I keep seeing the young Carlos Dunlap.
My brother in law is a huge Michigan fan (oh! the text messages we've lived) I've always told him..It's like 'Brandon Graham' (1.13) still plays at Michigan... but Kwity can bring a Myles Jack type 1st step..
Honestly, If a gm's job includes projecting talent to the NFL?
Kwity Paye is my (hand in dirt) can't miss 'freak'... No combine, but the dude will blow-up his pro day.. He's had Pro coaching (Harbaugh) since 2017..Kwity played 2 games in 2017 & Jay & I, knew the kid had 'it' to bring into 2018.. He's added more " tools to his toolbox" for 3 season's, that others don't have.. Paye has faced some of the stiffest comp../ his team got whipped on Saturdays, but regardless of the score.. He's all about great effort with a full motor.. I can't remember a single football play the guy took off..
He's got twitch/size/wing/high motor/ all in a Julius Peppers frame... Paye's my top defensive player on the board with no thinking twice... (I just can't find a way to get into the top 10 ?)
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