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  • @hoorta said:

    Racist much?   BTW- anyone who's going to stick up for Derek Chauvin will lose any respect from me. Right back at ya. 

    BTW Cisco- there's been PLENTY of testimony at the trial from expert witnesses- that DC FAR exceeded what would be considered "reasonable force" to restrain Floyd.  

    Regarding black jurors- Nah- they're all dumb former slaves, and members of BLM.  

    Because you're, apparently, in possession of an extra chromosome I won't bother arguing the obvious, that pointing out the state's case is not good isn't the same as sticking up for the defendant. 

    And as for racist, if it's racist to point out facts you should take that up with the new yorker and Eric holder. Tell him what a racist he is. 

    And by the way, fuck you. If I had the respect of an individual such as yourself I don't know that I could respect myself. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Because you're, apparently, in possession of an extra chromosome I won't bother arguing the obvious, that pointing out the state's case is not good isn't the same as sticking up for the defendant. 

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

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  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Because you're, apparently, in possession of an extra chromosome I won't bother arguing the obvious, that pointing out the state's case is not good isn't the same as sticking up for the defendant. 

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

    @hoorta said:

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

     Don't know what the beef is about. Looks like involuntary manslaughter should be pretty easy. Murder one not so much.

     Did Floyd deserve it? Nope.  But he did deserve it more than the people on this list. 

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty

    And not one city not 1 suburb not even a township went up in flames.

     But unlike the voter fraud this one was at least investigated.

    WSS

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Because you're, apparently, in possession of an extra chromosome I won't bother arguing the obvious, that pointing out the state's case is not good isn't the same as sticking up for the defendant. 

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

    @hoorta said:

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

    If you can't breathe how the hell can you say it?  And for nine minutes?

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  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Because you're, apparently, in possession of an extra chromosome I won't bother arguing the obvious, that pointing out the state's case is not good isn't the same as sticking up for the defendant. 

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

    @hoorta said:

    States case not good? You're living in LaLa land. No need to elaborate, believe whatever you want to. Unless you're law enforcement or a lawyer, your opinion carries no more weight than mine. I'll defer to one of my friends opinions who's a retired police sergeant. 

    EDIT: OK, I will elaborate. Its so weak the City already shelled out $27 million (excessive IMHO) to settle even before the trial started? There's that little 9 minute video with Floyd yelling "I can't breathe". as evidence.- Expert testimony saying Chauvin had his entire weight on his back, not an approved restraint technique either. Let someone put his entire weight on your chest for ten minutes, and tell me how it feels.

    Why did you have to kneel on a handcuffed guy for nine fucking minutes with three other cops around to help you? Why didn't you get off of the guy when the paramedics showed ? I'll leave you guys to your delusions- just like Trump's fraud claims- I'll make a cameo when the sentence gets announced. 

    And- he's not going to be convicted because the jury is afraid of a riot- he's going to be convicted because he acted like a thug with a badge. Yeah, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen, but he didn't deserve to die for trying to pass a phony $20 bill either. 

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  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    That is a very gpod piece by the new yorker when they were apparently credible where one eric holder admits black people are not objective jurors

    Racist much?   BTW- anyone who's going to stick up for Derek Chauvin will lose any respect from me. Right back at ya. 

    BTW Cisco- there's been PLENTY of testimony at the trial from expert witnesses- that DC FAR exceeded what would be considered "reasonable force" to restrain Floyd.  

    Regarding black jurors- Nah- they're all dumb former slaves, and members of BLM.  

    @hoorta said:

    Racist much?   BTW- anyone who's going to stick up for Derek Chauvin will lose any respect from me. Right back at ya. 

    BTW Cisco- there's been PLENTY of testimony at the trial from expert witnesses- that DC FAR exceeded what would be considered "reasonable force" to restrain Floyd.  

    Regarding black jurors- Nah- they're all dumb former slaves, and members of BLM.  

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old are those people, 160 +/-  years old?

  • @hoorta said:

    Racist much?   BTW- anyone who's going to stick up for Derek Chauvin will lose any respect from me. Right back at ya. 

    BTW Cisco- there's been PLENTY of testimony at the trial from expert witnesses- that DC FAR exceeded what would be considered "reasonable force" to restrain Floyd.  

    Regarding black jurors- Nah- they're all dumb former slaves, and members of BLM.  

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old are those people, 160 +/-  years old?

    @ballpeen said:

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old is that person, 160 +/-  years old?

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

  • @ballpeen said:

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old is that person, 160 +/-  years old?

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

    @hoorta said:

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

    You've been say that for months and yet here you are ...talk about credibility!?

  • @ballpeen said:

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old is that person, 160 +/-  years old?

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

    @hoorta said:

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

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  • @ballpeen said:

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old is that person, 160 +/-  years old?

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

    @hoorta said:

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

  • @hoorta said:

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

    You've been say that for months and yet here you are ...talk about credibility!?

    @vambo said:

    You've been say that for months and yet here you are ...talk about credibility!?

    Bye-bye troll boy....   I need a break from the crap that gets spewed here every day.  I should put your sorry ass on ignore, but as a Mod, can't do so.  

  • @ballpeen said:

    Wait, there are former slaves still alive?  I didn't know that.  How old is that person, 160 +/-  years old?

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

    @hoorta said:

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

     Like you me vanbo ball peen Cal the woodpecker and everybody else on this board?

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

     Like it or not OJ was found not guilty by a fair and square court of law.  Whether you like him or not or whether or not you support the law the subsequent persecution was outrageous. They wouldn't have done that to anybody else.  Just one reason I think our legal system sucks.

    I can't imagine that a reasonable doubt is going to make much difference in this officers trial.

    WSS

  • @vambo said:

    You've been say that for months and yet here you are ...talk about credibility!?

    Bye-bye troll boy....   I need a break from the crap that gets spewed here every day.  I should put your sorry ass on ignore, but as a Mod, can't do so.  

    @hoorta said:

    Bye-bye troll boy....   I need a break from the crap that gets spewed here every day.  I should put your sorry ass on ignore, but as a Mod, can't do so.  

    Bye-bye troll boy....

  • @hoorta said:

    😁 OK, ya got me there- descendants of slaves. 

     Like you me vanbo ball peen Cal the woodpecker and everybody else on this board?

    Vambo is playing the defense's card- as I already said they would- "create reasonable doubt"....  That will be for the jury to decide. How one OJ Simpson got off, but there won't be a civil trial, as the City of Minneapolis already paid up. Time will tell, until then- I'm outta here, they can enjoy their right wing rants and conspiracies to their heart's content.  

     Like it or not OJ was found not guilty by a fair and square court of law.  Whether you like him or not or whether or not you support the law the subsequent persecution was outrageous. They wouldn't have done that to anybody else.  Just one reason I think our legal system sucks.

    I can't imagine that a reasonable doubt is going to make much difference in this officers trial.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

     Like it or not OJ was found not guilty by a fair and square court of law.  Whether you like him or not or whether or not you support the law the subsequent persecution was outrageous. They wouldn't have done that to anybody else.  Just one reason I think our legal system sucks.

    I can't imagine that a reasonable doubt is going to make much difference in this officers trial.

    WSS

    You're one of the few here Steve where we can actually discuss things rationally- though we often disagree.  

    Well, Vambot sure had to bring up the new rioting...  I'm DONE responding to his flamebaiting and whataboutism.  LOL, he's just like Ghoolie- always has to get the last troll in.  😁  Once and for all- I DON'T APPROVE OF RIOTING- LOCK THEM UP!!  OTOH,

    Yeah, dumb ass 20 something- don't resist arrest, and you're still alive. I do wonder (assuming he had an outstanding warrant- what was it for.) Now I certainly don't approve of cops using a bullshit excuse that he had an air freshener on his rearview mirror.as a valid reason to pull him over in the first place. Racial profiling? TBD. As was commented in another forum...  

    "Pretty hard to taser someone with a gun in your hand. And if you can't tell the difference between a taser and a gun- you are in the wrong profession." You had damn well better double check what you have in your hand before you pull the trigger. 

  • One might ask themselves what kind of person is willing to take on a cops job for this kind of salary?

    Only a true believer in copitude or an obvious psychopath it seems to me. 

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  • @hammertime said:

    What did Chauvin do?

    A jury will determine that. Doubtless some here will say- he didn't get a fair trial. MHO? Chauvin can hope for a manslaughter conviction at best. Federal police brutality charges down the road? He's got the best defense lawyer the police union could afford, (Johnny Cochran is dead, unfortunately) so yeah- innocent until proven guilty. However, the prosecution has documented a mountain of proof- with more yet to come.   

    BTW Hammer- let me give you a newsflash from HNN the (hoorta news network). Liz Cheney has been laughing her ever loving ass off over the last few days.   

    Or you going to claim ignorance on that connection too?   I'll even give you a hint: The cowpokes in Wyoming are asking how many women Gaetz poked $$$. 😁  

    @hoorta said:

    A jury will determine that. Doubtless some here will say- he didn't get a fair trial. MHO? Chauvin can hope for a manslaughter conviction at best. Federal police brutality charges down the road? He's got the best defense lawyer the police union could afford, (Johnny Cochran is dead, unfortunately) so yeah- innocent until proven guilty. However, the prosecution has documented a mountain of proof- with more yet to come.   

    BTW Hammer- let me give you a newsflash from HNN the (hoorta news network). Liz Cheney has been laughing her ever loving ass off over the last few days.   

    Or you going to claim ignorance on that connection too?   I'll even give you a hint: The cowpokes in Wyoming are asking how many women Gaetz poked $$$. 😁  

    So what did Chauvin do?

    Are you satisfied with the preparation for the courts decision?

    Do things look OK to you?

    Do you feel like you were presented with ALL the info or just what they wanted you to see?  Now at court it’s not the same, is it?  George Floyd killed himself.  

  • @westside-steve said:

     Like it or not OJ was found not guilty by a fair and square court of law.  Whether you like him or not or whether or not you support the law the subsequent persecution was outrageous. They wouldn't have done that to anybody else.  Just one reason I think our legal system sucks.

    I can't imagine that a reasonable doubt is going to make much difference in this officers trial.

    WSS

    You're one of the few here Steve where we can actually discuss things rationally- though we often disagree.  

    Well, Vambot sure had to bring up the new rioting...  I'm DONE responding to his flamebaiting and whataboutism.  LOL, he's just like Ghoolie- always has to get the last troll in.  😁  Once and for all- I DON'T APPROVE OF RIOTING- LOCK THEM UP!!  OTOH,

    Yeah, dumb ass 20 something- don't resist arrest, and you're still alive. I do wonder (assuming he had an outstanding warrant- what was it for.) Now I certainly don't approve of cops using a bullshit excuse that he had an air freshener on his rearview mirror.as a valid reason to pull him over in the first place. Racial profiling? TBD. As was commented in another forum...  

    "Pretty hard to taser someone with a gun in your hand. And if you can't tell the difference between a taser and a gun- you are in the wrong profession." You had damn well better double check what you have in your hand before you pull the trigger. 

    @hoorta said:

    You're one of the few here Steve where we can actually discuss things rationally- though we often disagree.  

    Well, Vambot sure had to bring up the new rioting...  I'm DONE responding to his flamebaiting and whataboutism.  LOL, he's just like Ghoolie- always has to get the last troll in.  😁  Once and for all- I DON'T APPROVE OF RIOTING- LOCK THEM UP!!  OTOH,

    Yeah, dumb ass 20 something- don't resist arrest, and you're still alive. I do wonder (assuming he had an outstanding warrant- what was it for.) Now I certainly don't approve of cops using a bullshit excuse that he had an air freshener on his rearview mirror.as a valid reason to pull him over in the first place. Racial profiling? TBD. As was commented in another forum...  

    "Pretty hard to taser someone with a gun in your hand. And if you can't tell the difference between a taser and a gun- you are in the wrong profession." You had damn well better double check what you have in your hand before you pull the trigger. 

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