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  • @ballpeen said:

    I agree.  Ward is a prime candidate to move on.  Hospital Ward misses a lot of games.  I think our offer is going to reflect that.  Some team will probably offer more.  It is what it is.

    Hospital ward has missed less games in his first 3 years than myles Garrett did. 

    Nick chubb only played in 12 games this past year also. Looking at snap counts chubb highest percent of snap count the 3 years he's been here has been 69% of the offensive plays the lowest "hospital ward" has been on the field for defensive plays is 70% (this percentage includes the snaps/games due to injury)

    @bjh2130 said:

    Hospital ward has missed less games in his first 3 years than myles Garrett did. 

    Nick chubb only played in 12 games this past year also. Looking at snap counts chubb highest percent of snap count the 3 years he's been here has been 69% of the offensive plays the lowest "hospital ward" has been on the field for defensive plays is 70% (this percentage includes the snaps/games due to injury)

    I feel like you mic dropped when you stopped typing this reply 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Hospital ward has missed less games in his first 3 years than myles Garrett did. 

    Nick chubb only played in 12 games this past year also. Looking at snap counts chubb highest percent of snap count the 3 years he's been here has been 69% of the offensive plays the lowest "hospital ward" has been on the field for defensive plays is 70% (this percentage includes the snaps/games due to injury)

    I feel like you mic dropped when you stopped typing this reply 

    @londonbrown said:

    I feel like you mic dropped when you stopped typing this reply 

    And there’s no need.

    1. You can’t pay everyone.  We paid Myles...if you want to Unpay him cut him or trade him and take the cap hit.  Go ahead do the math but  It’s over. 
    2. Nick Chubb had a pretty significant knee injury and missed just 4 games. Prior to that 16 games and 16 games

    3. He platoons...guess what so do other backs!!!  He also sets up our offense.  Right now we have a QB that hasn’t shown the ability to Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers us on his back.  So you probably need Nick.

    4. He’ll likely ask for significantly less than Ward. 

  • @londonbrown said:

    I feel like you mic dropped when you stopped typing this reply 

    And there’s no need.

    1. You can’t pay everyone.  We paid Myles...if you want to Unpay him cut him or trade him and take the cap hit.  Go ahead do the math but  It’s over. 
    2. Nick Chubb had a pretty significant knee injury and missed just 4 games. Prior to that 16 games and 16 games

    3. He platoons...guess what so do other backs!!!  He also sets up our offense.  Right now we have a QB that hasn’t shown the ability to Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers us on his back.  So you probably need Nick.

    4. He’ll likely ask for significantly less than Ward. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    And there’s no need.

    1. You can’t pay everyone.  We paid Myles...if you want to Unpay him cut him or trade him and take the cap hit.  Go ahead do the math but  It’s over. 
    2. Nick Chubb had a pretty significant knee injury and missed just 4 games. Prior to that 16 games and 16 games

    3. He platoons...guess what so do other backs!!!  He also sets up our offense.  Right now we have a QB that hasn’t shown the ability to Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers us on his back.  So you probably need Nick.

    4. He’ll likely ask for significantly less than Ward. 

    We have no clue what ward will ask for.  Ward is from northern Ohio and grew up a browns fan. So are we just looking at the last 3 years or going back to college.  If we're worried about injuries reoccurring let's not forget chubb's major knee injury in college. My point about the snap count you proved for me. Backs platoon. If there was significant drop off chubb snap count would be higher. I want to sign both and find the money elsewhere say restructuring a wr or two. I'm not trying to discredit chubb. I'm trying to show the arguments made about ward can be made about everyone's favorite player. 

  • Chubb's work to success after that horrific injury is such a credit to that man, I love him for it

  • Both Chubb and Ward are still young.  They've still got some prime years in them.  

  • @ballpeen said:

    I agree.  Ward is a prime candidate to move on.  Hospital Ward misses a lot of games.  I think our offer is going to reflect that.  Some team will probably offer more.  It is what it is.

    Hospital ward has missed less games in his first 3 years than myles Garrett did. 

    Nick chubb only played in 12 games this past year also. Looking at snap counts chubb highest percent of snap count the 3 years he's been here has been 69% of the offensive plays the lowest "hospital ward" has been on the field for defensive plays is 70% (this percentage includes the snaps/games due to injury)

    @bjh2130 said:

    Nick chubb only played in 12 games this past year also. Looking at snap counts chubb highest percent of snap count the 3 years he's been here has been 69% of the offensive plays the lowest "hospital ward" has been on the field for defensive plays is 70% (this percentage includes the snaps/games due to injury)

    Holy Apples & Oranges, Batman!

    • RBs rotate...
    • DBs do not...
    • In 3 years Chubb has missed 4 starts due to injury and 7 due to inHuey.
    • In 3 years Ward has missed 12 starts due to injury.

    Q.E.D.
     

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Nick chubb only played in 12 games this past year also. Looking at snap counts chubb highest percent of snap count the 3 years he's been here has been 69% of the offensive plays the lowest "hospital ward" has been on the field for defensive plays is 70% (this percentage includes the snaps/games due to injury)

    Holy Apples & Oranges, Batman!

    • RBs rotate...
    • DBs do not...
    • In 3 years Chubb has missed 4 starts due to injury and 7 due to inHuey.
    • In 3 years Ward has missed 12 starts due to injury.

    Q.E.D.
     

    @tour2ma said:

    Holy Apples & Oranges, Batman!

    • RBs rotate...
    • DBs do not...
    • In 3 years Chubb has missed 4 starts due to injury and 7 due to inHuey.
    • In 3 years Ward has missed 12 starts due to injury.

    Q.E.D.
     

    Almost like running backs are more interchangeable than corners.

  • @gunz41 said:

    So would you rather

    I would rather not create a need where one does not exist.  Being able to control a team's top flight receiver is huge in today's NFL.  We're trying to get to and win a superbowl here.  And that's a very important position...along with edge rusher, T, QB...

    @orion said:

    I would rather not create a need where one does not exist.  Being able to control a team's top flight receiver is huge in today's NFL.  We're trying to get to and win a superbowl here.  And that's a very important position...along with edge rusher, T, QB...

    Obviously if the team can keep them all that is the answer. Just pointing out that there is no way to compare drop Greedy vs. Ward. 

  • Read this article - to the end - if you remain interested in thinking about ways to fix/improve Browns pass defense.

    Fun fact: Redwine ended up rated below Sendejo last season.

  • Read this article - to the end - if you remain interested in thinking about ways to fix/improve Browns pass defense.

    Fun fact: Redwine ended up rated below Sendejo last season.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Read this article - to the end - if you remain interested in thinking about ways to fix/improve Browns pass defense.

    Fun fact: Redwine ended up rated below Sendejo last season.

    “Coverage is coverage in the NFL. Who (man) or what (zone) you are asked to cover depends on your defensive coordinator. Safeties and linebackers can often to tasked with covering the same general positions on the offense: tight ends, running backs, and slot receivers.”

    Yes and No

    We saw times last season where our safeties were matched up against Outside WRs.  Maybe it was miscommunication.  I didn’t see Malcolm Smith or any other LB in the same predicament.  
     

    I saw lots of opponent WRs running open and our defenders pointing fingers late in the season too.   
     

    “coverage is a bigger priority than pass rush while noting the importance of both.”

    Im curious here.  Not sure I believe this but I didn’t read their rationale yet.