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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

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    That was a solid hit and i love seeing a Michigan player blown up but I believe Clowney has been vastly overrated since this hit. I'm still happy with the signing but I'm also not expecting double digit sacks from him this year or anything. I'm a homer but I'm partial to this hit. I love Gus Johnson btw (see Woody not a complete hater of Michigan) and his call of this.  "You got barbecue back there and didn't invite me? Hurt. My. Feelings."

    @bjh2130 said:

    That was a solid hit and i love seeing a Michigan player blown up but I believe Clowney has been vastly overrated since this hit. I'm still happy with the signing but I'm also not expecting double digit sacks from him this year or anything. I'm a homer but I'm partial to this hit. I love Gus Johnson btw (see Woody not a complete hater of Michigan) and his call of this.  "You got barbecue back there and didn't invite me? Hurt. My. Feelings."

    I think he's one of the most overrated players in the entire nfl if you really pay attention. He has huge name rec and it's undeserved. I loved the pick ups from the rams in fa early by the Browns but this one for me is stinky. Take my steeler Fandom out of the equation. Hes not worth 10m either. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

  • @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    One year deal for a little over half the price we paid Vernon last year. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    One year deal for a little over half the price we paid Vernon last year. 

    It's not terrible. He's just not as good as people think he is. 

  • @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Is Andrew V coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    I hope not. He sucks. 

  • @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

  • @orion said:

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

    If Berry agrees with you then we should see something happen for the position early in the draft.  Clowney is a one year deal.  A mercenary.  He's not representative of the 'building for the future' part of the plan.  He fits with the 'rack up a few super bowls while we're at it' part of the plan.  🙂

    So far, Berry has been throwing bodies at the opposite side from Myles. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

    @vagitron said:

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

    Thanks for your opinion.

    I see problems for the Steelers 

  • Fans love a good stat-line player.... while the media never tracks a players real assignment ?..

    JC was rarely used inside with Vrabel..that's on Vrabel.. Hawks did..and had success with QB hits & QB chit stains.. I'll trust Joe Woods on giving JC every chance to hit those incentives  

  • @vagitron said:

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

    Thanks for your opinion.

    I see problems for the Steelers 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Thanks for your opinion.

    I see problems for the Steelers 

    Yea the steelers aren't perfect, several holes. We will see how the draft goes. They crushed it with dotson. Banner out right earned the job before hurting his knee. There are a ton of lineman outside the first round. Take the steelers completely out of this equation. Clowney has never lived up to his draft position, not even close. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

    @vagitron said:

    You are seriously missing Mike Munchak..... Lol

    fify 😉

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Thanks for your opinion.

    I see problems for the Steelers 

    Yea the steelers aren't perfect, several holes. We will see how the draft goes. They crushed it with dotson. Banner out right earned the job before hurting his knee. There are a ton of lineman outside the first round. Take the steelers completely out of this equation. Clowney has never lived up to his draft position, not even close. 

    @vagitron said:

    Yea the steelers aren't perfect, several holes. We will see how the draft goes. They crushed it with dotson. Banner out right earned the job before hurting his knee. There are a ton of lineman outside the first round. Take the steelers completely out of this equation. Clowney has never lived up to his draft position, not even close. 

    1 yr 8M - 10M contract says that Browns aren’t invested big time in him.  They aren’t expecting him to live up to his draft position.  Play solid football hopefully stay healthy.  And He was fairly healthy from 15-19. 

    He’s another scary dude we need to rotate in upfront.  

  • Here's an article with ESPN's pass rush winrate history, a cutup of all his pressures in 2019, and a few other meaty details about Clowney.

    "Clowney is a uniquely explosive athlete, and as long as that’s the case, he’ll always be a player capable of disrupting the quarterback. But turning those disruptions into sacks is going to require some creativity from his coaching staff."

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    If the Steelers had signed Clowney this board would be whooping it up, talking about how the Steelers just wasted $10 mill on an overrated bum. There isn't a doubt in my mind about this.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Thanks for your opinion.

    I see problems for the Steelers 

    Yea the steelers aren't perfect, several holes. We will see how the draft goes. They crushed it with dotson. Banner out right earned the job before hurting his knee. There are a ton of lineman outside the first round. Take the steelers completely out of this equation. Clowney has never lived up to his draft position, not even close. 

    @vagitron said:

    Yea the steelers aren't perfect, several holes. We will see how the draft goes. They crushed it with dotson. Banner out right earned the job before hurting his knee. There are a ton of lineman outside the first round. Take the steelers completely out of this equation. Clowney has never lived up to his draft position, not even close. 

    I'll make the argument that Clowney was waaaaaaay more hyped entering the NFL than Myles was. 

  • @orion said:

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Well....we needed someone strong against the run as well.  If he is a beast against the run and that is it for him, that is still good. 

  • @vagitron said:

    Yea the steelers aren't perfect, several holes. We will see how the draft goes. They crushed it with dotson. Banner out right earned the job before hurting his knee. There are a ton of lineman outside the first round. Take the steelers completely out of this equation. Clowney has never lived up to his draft position, not even close. 

    I'll make the argument that Clowney was waaaaaaay more hyped entering the NFL than Myles was. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll make the argument that Clowney was waaaaaaay more hyped entering the NFL than Myles was. 

    Yes and no...

    Yes, due to the video of JC's hit on the tsun kid...

    No, because there was a real debate as to who the #1 overall prospect was when Clowney came out. Not the case for MG's class.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    3 sacks in his last 22 games played.

    Three

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    @orion said:

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    Regarding covid- I don't see that being an issue for NFL teams 2021, certainly not to the extent it was last year. Unless players and coaches are being dum-dums or antivaxxers, they should all be vaccinated before training camp starts.  But as I like to say 95% effective isn't 100% effective. 

    @vagitron said:

    Clowney does not get after the qb. He exists on name rec. He is very strong against the run tho. 

    We bought in a body Vag. Checking Spotrac- they have him as #73 in edge salary obligation. We certainly didn't overpay for what's likely a one year rent-a-player.  

    And I noticed you still have TJ Watt on his rookie deal- get ready to pay up, or he's heading for greener $$$ pastures next year, just like Steven Nelson and Bud Dupree did. Remains to be seen if keeping Ben around for a last hurrah is going to be worth it. FWIW, Bleacher report has you as one of the top 5 teams in the league on the verge of imminent collapse.  Hmmm, you have a guy  I never heard of as your only center, (duck Ben) and Joe Haden is running on fumes at CB.  

  • It's not like Clowny is a garbage player... He is not.. It's all about opportunities... Lets see what the effect of Kevin Stefanski is on him... Then make a sumation from there... We might just be surprised... If he's stalwart against the run... Then it's well worth the investment...

  • It's not like Clowny is a garbage player... He is not.. It's all about opportunities... Lets see what the effect of Kevin Stefanski is on him... Then make a sumation from there... We might just be surprised... If he's stalwart against the run... Then it's well worth the investment...

    @nickers said:

    It's not like Clowny is a garbage player... He is not.. It's all about opportunities... Lets see what the effect of Kevin Stefanski is on him... Then make a sumation from there... We might just be surprised... If he's stalwart against the run... Then it's well worth the investment...

    Move up for Kwitty and move Clowney to DT next to Myles or even the rookie. Then watch the ensuing fun in the DL. The rookie gets no double teams and here we go Brownies, here we go!