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  • @flugel said:

    Interesting Mike!    Lindy's Draft Guide rates him as the #1 OLB.  Athlon's Draft Mag rates him as their #2 OLB; and that's only because they're projecting Micah Parson's as an OLB (with their #1 rating).  In Athlon's Top 100 prospects, he's listed at #11 overall. Lindy's field media top 100 - he's #18 overall.   

    Looking at those films and a lot of what I've read and heard from his biggest fan Daniel Jeremiah - his skills will be ideal for the NFL today.

    The scariest thing about him is going to be watching people try to say his name at/after the tailgates.  I think I'll stick with JOK. 

    Yeah, I'll stick with JOK too. He'll be fun to watch for sure!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Yeah, I'll stick with JOK too. He'll be fun to watch for sure!

    Mike

    The thing with judging LBs today is I tend to get distracted by the types I loved in the 70s, 80s and 90s.  They say you can't teach and old dawg tricks but I majored in summer school.  I still find myself looking for ideal heights, weights and BIG hit reputations; but the game and rules today are phasing that out some for the sure tacklers in open fields that can also strip the ball.  If reading their keys and mastering coverages isn't enough of a challenge for young LBers; now add the athletic and speedy QBs of today taking off out of the pocket that countless defenders never seem to get a clean shot at (ie; Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, DeShaun Watson). 

    JOK looks like he offers the goodies our Defense needs.  And I've seem some highlights where he looks very capable of delivering the collisions on guys ending in smelling salt wake ups.  Even better, he's not leading with his head - so he doesn't look like an unconscious Greg Lloyd that just got freight trained by Kevin Mack.  

  • I will refer to Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah from now on as:

    Tim.

  • Leading with the head brigade should be lead by Shazier.. he did that even at OSU and ignored people who tried to have him change tackling form

  • #Browns GM Andrew Berry said had building of 30 people all pacing as they tried to trade up to get Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.
    11:27 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Scott Petrak ct@ScottPetrak
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said had building of 30 people all pacing as they tried to trade up to get Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said he can't speculate why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell, but they were very comfortable with him from a medical standpoint
    11:36 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said he can't speculate why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell, but they were very comfortable with him from a medical standpoint
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
    11:30 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker
    11:27 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker

    @gumby73 said:

    he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB

    This makes sense.  I've been saying that this draft will probably define what this regime wants the Browns to be.   Last year was about 'becoming' a team, with the new coackes, GM, Playbook, etc.  And the draft was to get some guys to immediately fix big problems (like the 2 tackle positions).  They had very few picks to look for their 'vision' players.

    We are now seeing their motto:    Fuckin' Fast !    (from now on I'll refer to it as 'Friggin')  🙂  I mean look where they went for the WR!   There were other receivers rated higher than the one we took.  But the one that WE took runs like a jack-rabbit.   Steph, Woods & Berry are going for speed.  Ya can't teach it.   

    ( JoJo Natson's got his work cut out for him )

  • Leading with the head brigade should be lead by Shazier.. he did that even at OSU and ignored people who tried to have him change tackling form

    @unsympathetic said:

    Leading with the head brigade should be lead by Shazier.. he did that even at OSU and ignored people who tried to have him change tackling form

    Brodney Pool was a charter member of that club.

  • @comeonman said:

    Had to work tonight and didn’t see any commentary. Any reason for him dropping that far? I figured he’d go in the first for sure 

    A friend went up Thursday night & said most of what he heard was that teams didn't know how to use him. If true, I think they'll regret passing him by. Great for us though.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    A friend went up Thursday night & said most of what he heard was that teams didn't know how to use him. If true, I think they'll regret passing him by. Great for us though.

    Mike

    I keep watching videos of him - and it occurred to me, that the squealers would have drafted him in that second round - they miss

    having a blazing fast playmaker like Troy Wannacheapshotyu...who made crazy plays all over the place with his speed and instincts.

       He won't be just a WILL lb, Joe Woods will have him be the focus of attention by offenses... they had better know where he is to start every play. The Browns will be able to disguise plays that they couldn't do before, I think. Any creative DC would have loved to nab Owusu-Kamorah. I swear the squealers were going to nab him. The Browns knew they had to jump ahead.

       Going to be FUN to watch !

  • @gumby73 said:

    he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB

    This makes sense.  I've been saying that this draft will probably define what this regime wants the Browns to be.   Last year was about 'becoming' a team, with the new coackes, GM, Playbook, etc.  And the draft was to get some guys to immediately fix big problems (like the 2 tackle positions).  They had very few picks to look for their 'vision' players.

    We are now seeing their motto:    Fuckin' Fast !    (from now on I'll refer to it as 'Friggin')  🙂  I mean look where they went for the WR!   There were other receivers rated higher than the one we took.  But the one that WE took runs like a jack-rabbit.   Steph, Woods & Berry are going for speed.  Ya can't teach it.   

    ( JoJo Natson's got his work cut out for him )

    @orion said:

    This makes sense.  I've been saying that this draft will probably define what this regime wants the Browns to be.   Last year was about 'becoming' a team, with the new coackes, GM, Playbook, etc.  And the draft was to get some guys to immediately fix big problems (like the 2 tackle positions).  They had very few picks to look for their 'vision' players.

    We are now seeing their motto:    Fuckin' Fast !    (from now on I'll refer to it as 'Friggin')  🙂  I mean look where they went for the WR!   There were other receivers rated higher than the one we took.  But the one that WE took runs like a jack-rabbit.   Steph, Woods & Berry are going for speed.  Ya can't teach it.   

    YEP ! I looked it up - Tyreek HIll of the Chiefs? ran a 4.29 forty.

    https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/what-tyreek-hill-s-nfl-40-yard-dash-time#:~:text=One drill stood out more than the rest,a top speed of 19 miles per hour.

    " One drill stood out more than the rest and that was Tyreek Hill's 40-yard dash time and speed. Tyreek Hill's 4.29 forty yard dash time was remarkable. Not to mention the wide receiver reached a top speed of 19 miles per hour. "

    Everybody knows how much Hill means to the Chiefs' offense.

    and Anthony Swartz ran a 4.26. Freaking FAST. AND he is a heck of a FOOTBALL PLAYER.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/anthony-schwartz-3-things-to-know-about-the-new-browns-wide-receiver/ar-BB1gfG8z

    Going to be a FASTER Browns team going to the playoffs, I think.

  • #Browns GM Andrew Berry said had building of 30 people all pacing as they tried to trade up to get Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.
    11:27 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Scott Petrak ct@ScottPetrak
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said had building of 30 people all pacing as they tried to trade up to get Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said he can't speculate why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell, but they were very comfortable with him from a medical standpoint
    11:36 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said he can't speculate why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell, but they were very comfortable with him from a medical standpoint
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
    11:30 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker
    11:27 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker

    @gumby73 said:

    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker

    MHO? "Little undersized" is why he dropped that far. He's going to be taking on TEs that have 30 pounds and several inches on him. Worth the risk. 1\2 of second round picks bust anyway. 

  • My homer late round pick

    Bobby Skinner@BobbySkinner_
    OMG Watch Michigan FB Ben Mason pancake the life out of this linebacker. Senior Bowl
  • I will refer to Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah from now on as:

    Tim.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I will refer to Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah from now on as:

    Tim.

    i have that tee shirt

  • #Browns GM Andrew Berry said had building of 30 people all pacing as they tried to trade up to get Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.
    11:27 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Scott Petrak ct@ScottPetrak
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said had building of 30 people all pacing as they tried to trade up to get Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said he can't speculate why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell, but they were very comfortable with him from a medical standpoint
    11:36 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said he can't speculate why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell, but they were very comfortable with him from a medical standpoint
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
    11:30 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry on why Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah fell: Don't know other 31 boards, but think he's a little unique in how he produces, little undersized, used in a variety of ways at Notre Dame, for us, in Joe Woods' scheme, everything he does well marries what we want at LB
     
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker
    11:27 PM · Apr 30, 2021
    Nate Ulrich@ByNateUlrich
    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker

    @gumby73 said:

    #Browns GM Andrew Berry said they see Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as WILL linebacker

    Surprises me...

  • I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

  • I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

    @nickers said:

    I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

    interesting ! Eddie Johnson was 6'1", 220 lbs !

  • In case some of you Millenials didn't get the reference in the thread  title,  here you go:

  • I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

    @nickers said:

    I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

    Sorry Nickers there's a reason the Butkus award is named after, um Butkus. 6'3" 245...  Prototypical size-and if you ever saw him play- poor running backs looked like they had been hit by a freight train. Lewis wasn't a lightweight either at 245, and the reason he fell into the second round was a lousy 40 time.  

  • @nickers said:

    I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

    Sorry Nickers there's a reason the Butkus award is named after, um Butkus. 6'3" 245...  Prototypical size-and if you ever saw him play- poor running backs looked like they had been hit by a freight train. Lewis wasn't a lightweight either at 245, and the reason he fell into the second round was a lousy 40 time.  

    @hoorta said:

    Sorry Nickers there's a reason the Butkus award is named after, um Butkus. 6'3" 245...  Prototypical size-and if you ever saw him play- poor running backs looked like they had been hit by a freight train. Lewis wasn't a lightweight either at 245, and the reason he fell into the second round was a lousy 40 time.  

    I know... I saw Butkus in our backfield on just about every play during the Phipps era..

  • In case some of you Millenials didn't get the reference in the thread  title,  here you go:

    @the-gipper said:

    In case some of you Millenials didn't get the reference in the thread  title,  here you go:

    Sorry  Gipper MHO that rates as one of the dumbest songs of all time. Start a thread and ask if anyone has a better idea.  

  • I love the pick...Sam Gash was undersized and turned into a darn good backer.. Hell even Eddie Johnson was small.. Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either... I wanted this kid... Glad we got him... He looks like a solid tackler!

    @nickers said:

     Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either..

    Do you know anything about football? Have you no idea why they called them the Monsters of the Midway?

    "Middle linebackers

    Within their acclaimed defenses, the Bears have been described as having a particularly strong legacy at middle linebacker, with players often being referred to as "Monsters in the Middle", a play on the Monsters of the Midway nickname.[6] This is mainly due to the play of Bill George, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, and Brian Urlacher"

    Given the fact that one of the biggest DTs in Butkus' era was Dallas' Bob Lilly at 6'5" 260, Butkus at 6'3" 245 was absolutely huge for a LB, even for MLB.

    Do better research next time you throw shit on the board.

  • Had to work tonight and didn’t see any commentary. Any reason for him dropping that far? I figured he’d go in the first for sure 

    @comeonman said:

    Had to work tonight and didn’t see any commentary. Any reason for him dropping that far? I figured he’d go in the first for sure 

    A big reason for his drop has to do with Isaiah Simmons not having a great rookie campaign as they are very similar prospects and the cardinals couldn't/can't figure out how to use him. If he were in last years draft he is probably a top 15 pick because a player like Simmons was all the hype It's a copy cat league.

    Side note a big reason for Trey Lance rise is Josh Allen's success from what I've heard.  A lot of people see similar qualities in those two

  • @nickers said:

     Butkus and Lewis weren't huge either..

    Do you know anything about football? Have you no idea why they called them the Monsters of the Midway?

    "Middle linebackers

    Within their acclaimed defenses, the Bears have been described as having a particularly strong legacy at middle linebacker, with players often being referred to as "Monsters in the Middle", a play on the Monsters of the Midway nickname.[6] This is mainly due to the play of Bill George, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, and Brian Urlacher"

    Given the fact that one of the biggest DTs in Butkus' era was Dallas' Bob Lilly at 6'5" 260, Butkus at 6'3" 245 was absolutely huge for a LB, even for MLB.

    Do better research next time you throw shit on the board.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Do you know anything about football? Have you no idea why they called them the Monsters of the Midway?

    "Middle linebackers

    Within their acclaimed defenses, the Bears have been described as having a particularly strong legacy at middle linebacker, with players often being referred to as "Monsters in the Middle", a play on the Monsters of the Midway nickname.[6] This is mainly due to the play of Bill George, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, and Brian Urlacher"

    Given the fact that one of the biggest DTs in Butkus' era was Dallas' Bob Lilly at 6'5" 260, Butkus at 6'3" 245 was absolutely huge for a LB, even for MLB.

    Do better research next time you throw shit on the board.

    nickers is the epitome of "Proudly and Loudly Ignorant". He's very 21st Century American.