@hoorta said:Part of the deal when Modell pulled the rug out from under Cleveland was the best lawyers in the city drew up an ironclad stadium lease that's virtually impossible for a Browns owner to break. Not to mention the out-of-pocket Jimmah laid out for stadium improvements. Not exactly a move a businessman planning a move would make.

@tour2ma said: Better luck next time... I was going to ask originally for sausage for the Tavern, but you've been here long enough to know where that've gone... Speaking of Italian... Last venison I made was in Tuscany. Slo-cooked a shank... Damn good even if I say so myself. Deer are all over the greater Cleveland burbs. Big nuisance, but shooting is out of the question. Far to densely populated... If you know a few farmers outside the metro area, most are agreeable to you hunting. You are in prime deer hunting land. I have friends out here (out near Albany NY) who drive 8 hours to hunt in Ohio...it's that good. Check it out.