Anderson's abilities
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He put up huge numbers last year, making those around him better (how else would you explain it?). He ran stale when defenses adjusted for him and in his corner was a first time GM, a first time Head coach, and a first O-coordinator to counter those adjustments.
The kid put up numbers just shy of Brian Sipe and won 10 of 15, and 7 straight Home games.
He has a big arm and if we have a T.O. or Moss or even a #1 WR who could catch, we might be thinking a bit differently about him. Hell if we had a running game we wouldn't have to rely so heavily on the short passing game to move the sticks.
I have no problem getting Quinn his playing time, that's what we drafted him for to make this his team ... I just don't get throwing a QB who flirts with a winning record under the bus when we couldn't put six wins in a season together let alone 7 at home.
Cheer for Brady now that he is in ... but answer me this, "Why the kicking of DA now that he is out?"
Brady Quinn is one blitz up the middle away from handing this thing back to DA. If you haven't noticed, Derek Anderson is still a Cleveland Brown.
When Derek was on he was like Peyton Manning. When he was accurate he was unstoppable. When his WR's caught the ball we won.
When things did not go his way he could not play himself or the team out of the funk. When things started going bad they stayed bad.
Cheer for Brady now that he is in ... but answer me this, "Why the kicking of DA now that he is out?"
People were kicking DA when he was in, just like Buffalo is kicking their starter. When teams get film on Quinn and he goes the route of DA we'll kick him as well. This is the NFL.
You know the drill. Don't act like Derek didn't have this coming.
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@inspecta said:
No, it's the damn truth.No it's not. Look at this thread. DA's been benched for two games now and these knuckleheads still can't stop talking about the guy. We kicked the Giants ass, and this Board couldn't wait 48 hours to start blasting him. Look it up. That's the truth.
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@inspecta said:
No, it's the damn truth.No it's not. Look at this thread. DA's been benched for two games now and these knuckleheads still can't stop talking about the guy. We kicked the Giants ass, and this Board couldn't wait 48 hours to start blasting him. Look it up. That's the truth.
No it's not. Look at this thread. DA's been benched for two games now and these knuckleheads still can't stop talking about the guy. We kicked the Giants ass, and this Board couldn't wait 48 hours to start blasting him. Look it up. That's the truth.
That's because we knew what was coming! History always repeats itself and where DA should have been benched in prior weeks, the Giants game was just prolonging the inevitable. We knew that after the Giants game the next opportunity DA had to shit the bed, he would....and did. The End!
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Physically as a passer Anderson has a higher ceiling than Quinn. Anderson can make throws that only a handful of pro passers can make. But, on the other hand Quinn is much better at making those short throws and screen passes. If Anderson can ever become comfortable throwing the short balls he can be a perennial all pro. But, that is a big if.
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Physically as a passer Anderson has a higher ceiling than Quinn. Anderson can make throws that only a handful of pro passers can make. But, on the other hand Quinn is much better at making those short throws and screen passes. If Anderson can ever become comfortable throwing the short balls he can be a perennial all pro. But, that is a big if.
Physically as a passer Anderson has a higher ceiling than Quinn. Anderson can make throws that only a handful of pro passers can make. But, on the other hand Quinn is much better at making those short throws and screen passes. If Anderson can ever become comfortable throwing the short balls he can be a perennial all pro. But, that is a big if.
Its all mental for DA. He has the physical tools to be a gun slinger. But he will never, ever be a high td to low int ratio QB. You have a chance at great things with a high risk of big problems with anderson. Kind of line Favre except not as good mentally or running.
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No it's not. Look at this thread. DA's been benched for two games now and these knuckleheads still can't stop talking about the guy. We kicked the Giants ass, and this Board couldn't wait 48 hours to start blasting him. Look it up. That's the truth.
That's because we knew what was coming! History always repeats itself and where DA should have been benched in prior weeks, the Giants game was just prolonging the inevitable. We knew that after the Giants game the next opportunity DA had to shit the bed, he would....and did. The End!
That's because we knew what was coming! History always repeats itself and where DA should have been benched in prior weeks, the Giants game was just prolonging the inevitable. We knew that after the Giants game the next opportunity DA had to shit the bed, he would....and did. The End!
Absolutely true. After that Giants game I honestly said to myself "Maybe he's turning the corner. Let's see what he does next game" and sure enough he was back to his below-average self.
We're not idiots Roach.. we call it like we see it.
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Physically as a passer Anderson has a higher ceiling than Quinn. Anderson can make throws that only a handful of pro passers can make. But, on the other hand Quinn is much better at making those short throws and screen passes. If Anderson can ever become comfortable throwing the short balls he can be a perennial all pro. But, that is a big if.
If by this you mean Quinn will never have Anderson's arm strength, I agree.
However, I would define "passer" as including more than arm strength. Touch, accuracy, altering arm angles, etc. all come into play. By that definition its silly to say Anderson's ceiling is higher. Do you really think he's all of a sudden going to learn touch? If so, then I'd agree his ceiling is higher as a pure "passer". However, after four years in the NFL there's no evidence that his touch/accuracy are improving and/or consistent enough to classify him as a pure "passer". Strong arm? Ayup.
Also, Quinn's mobility in the pocket and out is an asset that DA can not match. It matters. We saw that against Buffalo on several occassions.
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Here is the quintessential year we could expect from DA! And the QB who posted these has the same claim to fame....a HUGE ARM!!!
WK Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rate 1 29 37 78.4 281 7.6 3 0 125.3 2 29 38 76.3 287 7.6 3 0 123.5 3 29 45 64.4 299 6.6 1 2 72.4 4 22 35 62.9 270 7.7 2 1 93.8 5 16 25 64.0 190 7.6 0 1 70.4 6 23 35 65.7 269 7.7 2 2 84.1 7 19 27 70.4 177 6.6 0 2 57.2 8 16 29 55.2 218 7.5 1 1 76.5 9 Bye 10 19 31 61.3 180 5.8 1 2 61.2 11 29 49 59.2 328 6.7 1 1 77.6 12 19 43 44.2 254 5.9 4 0 94.5 13 26 46 56.5 364 7.9 2 3 69.5 14 15 29 51.7 193 6.7 1 2 55.7 15 25 42 59.5 284 6.8 1 1 77.9 16 1 3 33.3 15 5.0 0 0 50.7 17 5 10 50.0 125 12.5 1 0 129.2 TOT: 322 524 61.5 3,734 7.1 23 18 83.3
Go ahead....guess!
I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.
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Here is the quintessential year we could expect from DA! And the QB who posted these has the same claim to fame....a HUGE ARM!!!
WK Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rate 1 29 37 78.4 281 7.6 3 0 125.3 2 29 38 76.3 287 7.6 3 0 123.5 3 29 45 64.4 299 6.6 1 2 72.4 4 22 35 62.9 270 7.7 2 1 93.8 5 16 25 64.0 190 7.6 0 1 70.4 6 23 35 65.7 269 7.7 2 2 84.1 7 19 27 70.4 177 6.6 0 2 57.2 8 16 29 55.2 218 7.5 1 1 76.5 9 Bye 10 19 31 61.3 180 5.8 1 2 61.2 11 29 49 59.2 328 6.7 1 1 77.6 12 19 43 44.2 254 5.9 4 0 94.5 13 26 46 56.5 364 7.9 2 3 69.5 14 15 29 51.7 193 6.7 1 2 55.7 15 25 42 59.5 284 6.8 1 1 77.9 16 1 3 33.3 15 5.0 0 0 50.7 17 5 10 50.0 125 12.5 1 0 129.2 TOT: 322 524 61.5 3,734 7.1 23 18 83.3
Go ahead....guess!
I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.
Here is the quintessential year we could expect from DA! And the QB who posted these has the same claim to fame....a HUGE ARM!!!
WK Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rate 1 29 37 78.4 281 7.6 3 0 125.3 2 29 38 76.3 287 7.6 3 0 123.5 3 29 45 64.4 299 6.6 1 2 72.4 4 22 35 62.9 270 7.7 2 1 93.8 5 16 25 64.0 190 7.6 0 1 70.4 6 23 35 65.7 269 7.7 2 2 84.1 7 19 27 70.4 177 6.6 0 2 57.2 8 16 29 55.2 218 7.5 1 1 76.5 9 Bye 10 19 31 61.3 180 5.8 1 2 61.2 11 29 49 59.2 328 6.7 1 1 77.6 12 19 43 44.2 254 5.9 4 0 94.5 13 26 46 56.5 364 7.9 2 3 69.5 14 15 29 51.7 193 6.7 1 2 55.7 15 25 42 59.5 284 6.8 1 1 77.9 16 1 3 33.3 15 5.0 0 0 50.7 17 5 10 50.0 125 12.5 1 0 129.2 TOT: 322 524 61.5 3,734 7.1 23 18 83.3
Go ahead....guess!
I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.
Vinny is a good guess....but nope.
Anyone else have any ideas? I think once you figure it out you will all agree....this is probably the career path that DA will take.
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Nothing i can add that hasnt been said here i like DA but i dont think he was recieving the coaching he needs to be better i blame the coaches trying to save their jobs for his benching in a pinch if quinn cant play DA is my first choice of all the nfls backups to have the teams back...
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
I'm going to turn this thing around here. I want to know from all the DA fans what exactly are the qualities that they saw in him that makes them think he is THE guy for cleveland...how he was going to lead us to the promised land. I feel it seems everyone is quick with the negative on both DA and BQ, I want to hear what the hell positive they saw in DA. I will tell u right now that at the end of the season last year I was saying trade DA for all u can get.
I'm going to turn this thing around here. I want to know from all the DA fans what exactly are the qualities that they saw in him that makes them think he is THE guy for cleveland...how he was going to lead us to the promised land. I feel it seems everyone is quick with the negative on both DA and BQ, I want to hear what the hell positive they saw in DA. I will tell u right now that at the end of the season last year I was saying trade DA for all u can get.
He is tall..so he can easily put the angel on top of the Christmas tree
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Here is the quintessential year we could expect from DA! And the QB who posted these has the same claim to fame....a HUGE ARM!!!
WK Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rate 1 29 37 78.4 281 7.6 3 0 125.3 2 29 38 76.3 287 7.6 3 0 123.5 3 29 45 64.4 299 6.6 1 2 72.4 4 22 35 62.9 270 7.7 2 1 93.8 5 16 25 64.0 190 7.6 0 1 70.4 6 23 35 65.7 269 7.7 2 2 84.1 7 19 27 70.4 177 6.6 0 2 57.2 8 16 29 55.2 218 7.5 1 1 76.5 9 Bye 10 19 31 61.3 180 5.8 1 2 61.2 11 29 49 59.2 328 6.7 1 1 77.6 12 19 43 44.2 254 5.9 4 0 94.5 13 26 46 56.5 364 7.9 2 3 69.5 14 15 29 51.7 193 6.7 1 2 55.7 15 25 42 59.5 284 6.8 1 1 77.9 16 1 3 33.3 15 5.0 0 0 50.7 17 5 10 50.0 125 12.5 1 0 129.2 TOT: 322 524 61.5 3,734 7.1 23 18 83.3
Go ahead....guess!
I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.
Here is the quintessential year we could expect from DA! And the QB who posted these has the same claim to fame....a HUGE ARM!!!
WK Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rate 1 29 37 78.4 281 7.6 3 0 125.3 2 29 38 76.3 287 7.6 3 0 123.5 3 29 45 64.4 299 6.6 1 2 72.4 4 22 35 62.9 270 7.7 2 1 93.8 5 16 25 64.0 190 7.6 0 1 70.4 6 23 35 65.7 269 7.7 2 2 84.1 7 19 27 70.4 177 6.6 0 2 57.2 8 16 29 55.2 218 7.5 1 1 76.5 9 Bye 10 19 31 61.3 180 5.8 1 2 61.2 11 29 49 59.2 328 6.7 1 1 77.6 12 19 43 44.2 254 5.9 4 0 94.5 13 26 46 56.5 364 7.9 2 3 69.5 14 15 29 51.7 193 6.7 1 2 55.7 15 25 42 59.5 284 6.8 1 1 77.9 16 1 3 33.3 15 5.0 0 0 50.7 17 5 10 50.0 125 12.5 1 0 129.2 TOT: 322 524 61.5 3,734 7.1 23 18 83.3
Go ahead....guess!
I know the completion % is a bit high...but on the whole...this is the type of year I think you can expect from DA as a norm....Big games followed by crap games....but always turnovers mixed with the TD's.
That would be Jeff George. I can see DA's career turning out to be somewhat like that of George. Could be worse....look at McMahon's career.......it was shit but "he" won a super bowl.
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Nothing i can add that hasnt been said here i like DA but i dont think he was recieving the coaching he needs to be better i blame the coaches trying to save their jobs for his benching in a pinch if quinn cant play DA is my first choice of all the nfls backups to have the teams back...
Nothing i can add that hasnt been said here i like DA but i dont think he was recieving the coaching he needs to be better i blame the coaches trying to save their jobs for his benching
While the coaching can always get better, I'll blame Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Terrelle Suggs for scoring TDs on the strikes DA pitched them. Not only does DA throw alot of INTs but it seems like a high percentage of his go for TDs that KILL us in tight ball games.
DA has ALWAYS thrown alot of INTs regardles of the level or coaches. If you have more than 20 starts to your name - you shouldn't be looking MORE like a rookie than you did in starts number 4 and 5. How come Quinn knew enough not to throw any INTs in his first 8 quarters of starting? Did Quinn have better coaching in Cleveland than DA? No. It's the same staff. He's just more intelligent on the field and he looks alot more accurate.
When Edwards dropped 3 or 4 passes vrs Buffalo - I didn't panic nearly as much as i would have if he did this with DA because I knew all of the accurate throws weren't going to be used up. Turns out, Edwards had the most receptions he's had in any game this season even though he had the drops.
- Tom F.
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